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A Barrycade too far?Regime over reach on national parks stirs hornet`s nest.
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Posted on 10/09/2013 12:09:31 PM PDT by nomad

A number of us freepers have been posting stories about the over reach by the regime on the National Parks closures. This is a populist issue that along with all the others associated with this shutdown has, according to a recent poll, driven O`Bozo`s approval ratings down to 37%. I believe we need to jump on this and hammer it home to the "low info voters". A simple and petty example of the vindictiveness of the "Spite House" such as this parks issue illustrates it for even the blind.


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Let me relay a story associated with a trip and hike at the Cuyahoga Valley Ohio and Erie Canal Tow-Path bike trail. The other day I went for a hike and was able to talk with a couple of millenial twenty somethings on the trail to Szalay`s farm from Peninsula, OH. The Obozo bots were dismayed and personally offended by the closing of "their trail" by the NPS. One even questioned dear leader and actually admitted that this was going too far, this hurt the people in a personal way. I questioned, listened, and refrained from much negative comment as I wanted an honest response. I concluded that this issue has some legs even with the latte sipping, Birkenstock crowd. Opinions freepers?
1 posted on 10/09/2013 12:09:31 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad
This is a similar posting http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3076557/posts
2 posted on 10/09/2013 12:12:16 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

And this is a random listing of various articles on the issue presented with no comment http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3075809/posts


3 posted on 10/09/2013 12:14:40 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

And this is my original posting http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3075009/posts


4 posted on 10/09/2013 12:16:21 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

http://youtu.be/N078jMaPA5M


5 posted on 10/09/2013 12:24:11 PM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: nomad

After this fiasco, I hope the House passes a bill to disarm the Park rangers. They should not be armed, period.


6 posted on 10/09/2013 12:25:28 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: nomad
My family owns vacation property (cabin) that requires use of a Forest Service road to access it. The property is not on federal land though. There are ~20 property owners up there, many of them liberal, a few of them conservative, most of them low information voters.

This past weekend I sent an email to all of the other property owners asking them if anyone had been up there to make sure the road had not been blocked. I got a couple snarky responses, but I sent them the article about cabin owners on Lake Mead being kicked out.

I explained that if the FS could do that to the people at Lake Mead, the equivalent would be them gating our road and putting a sign on it saying we couldn't even walk in to our properties. I think I got my point across.

So far, the FS has done nothing, but I wouldn't put it past them. We're just keeping our heads down hoping they don't remember us....

7 posted on 10/09/2013 12:26:23 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: nomad

Not just National Parks but National Forest which is a big part of the west (among other areas).


8 posted on 10/09/2013 12:26:25 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: nomad

You done good. If you start lecturing them, they’re going to stop up their ears. But if they start thinking - and I think a lot of millenials (and even a lot of park rangers charged with enforcing this horrible stuff) are beginning to think - who knows what will happen?

They were a thoroughly politically indoctrinated generation, but enough of the American spirit somehow crept in that they’re a little annoyed by this overreach. That is, they never thought before that this country is not about the success of “the government,” it’s about the freedom and happiness and success of its citizens - such as them.


9 posted on 10/09/2013 12:27:12 PM PDT by livius
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To: Waywardson

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/09/poll-dems-lose-lead-in-congressional-generic-ballot WOW! You see, THIS is what I`m talking about! THANK YOU!
We need to keep up the pressure on the Spite House.


10 posted on 10/09/2013 12:30:10 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

re: “Barrycade”

I love it! Akin to “hoovervilles” only in this case it truly fits.


11 posted on 10/09/2013 12:30:40 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: livius

Oh I have been a part time student at a local community college and have dealt with these types before. Their self absorption can be an Achilles`s heel.
What I heard was “my trail”, “my time to commune with mother nature”, but at least they seemed to sympathize with the perception that others were like them, being denied “their park time”.


12 posted on 10/09/2013 12:39:04 PM PDT by nomad
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Try going to the social media sites and search the term, its catching on. So is the term, “The Spite House”.


13 posted on 10/09/2013 12:40:51 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

We are a nation of non-creative wusses.

We can’t have 500-20,000 people doing flash mobs on the barrycades, picking them up, and delivering them to a location on federal land where they are CONSIDERABLY out of the way?

I cannot believe that people are just standing and looking at the barrycades like cattle at a gate. Pulling my hair out.


14 posted on 10/09/2013 12:42:46 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk
Well I can only speak for the Tow Path National Park. Its been “guerrilla opened”! Amazing what pocket knives and multitools can do with that orange plastic snow fencing.
15 posted on 10/09/2013 12:46:11 PM PDT by nomad
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To: lurk

Amen lurk. NPS employees “following orders” should be shamed and shunned by their communities.


16 posted on 10/09/2013 12:50:41 PM PDT by Fledermaus (OMG! The Federal Government is Shut Down. World To End: Film At Eleven.)
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To: nomad

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3076806/posts Are there cracks forming in our armor? We need to keep up the pressure on the usual RINO suspect.


17 posted on 10/09/2013 12:51:29 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Waywardson

don’t have enough cash to open it,but they have enough to hire mercs to guard it.
makes sense to me.


18 posted on 10/09/2013 12:53:59 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: lurk

My cabin is over 100 miles away, but if I hear that the FS has blocked access, I plan to head up there with a battery operated Sawzall....


19 posted on 10/09/2013 12:55:13 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Fledermaus
I had nothing against them before. I am an avid bicycler and occasional hiker on the region`s metro and the canal tow path trails. This has changed my opinion of the goons forever.

Do you remember when O`Bozo said: “...we need a domestic force as well armed and funded as the military...”? Well are these part of the brown shirt army he was talking about?

20 posted on 10/09/2013 12:57:03 PM PDT by nomad
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To: SW6906

Or a big bolt cutter, they are silent and quick.


21 posted on 10/09/2013 12:59:04 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

I’m encouraged the millenials you spoke with blame Obastard. I’m expecting people to be angry, but at us.


22 posted on 10/09/2013 12:59:36 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: nomad

re: “So is the term, “The Spite House”.

Another great one, thanks!


23 posted on 10/09/2013 1:00:06 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: SW6906
Oh, and a nice multi-tool works wonders on that orange plastic snow fencing, theoretically that is.
24 posted on 10/09/2013 1:00:35 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Cyber Liberty

Well two guys are not the whole crowd and they were very angry at “the right” too but these guys were regulars to the Tow Path and recognized that its the NPS rangers that did the closing.


25 posted on 10/09/2013 1:03:52 PM PDT by nomad
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To: lurk

We’re a nation of law-abiders. We are also a nation of rogues when we think the laws are stupid (see “Prohibition”).

Give them some time...if Boehner doesn’t fold and this goes on for a while, Obastard is going to heap injustice upon injustice and it will eventually topple. But if Boehner caves, the GOP will be lost forever, and a new party will have to replace the 21st Century Whigs.


26 posted on 10/09/2013 1:06:56 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
They liked the idea of “guerrilla opening” the park along the lines of the Occutards. Hope I recruited a couple of assistants.
27 posted on 10/09/2013 1:07:32 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

I understand, I don’t expect them to go “Full TEA Party” on a dime. Just understanding Obastard is not perfect is that first chink in the armor. I’ve been telling my friends (our side) that even the LIVs know who’s putting the Barrycades up, and it ain’t Congress.

Baby steps....


28 posted on 10/09/2013 1:09:56 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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29 posted on 10/09/2013 1:11:33 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: nomad

If someone were to accidentally cut the snow-fences in a diagonal pattern instead of straight up and down, it really cuts down on reuse of the fence stock, wink wink. Theoretically of course.


30 posted on 10/09/2013 1:11:55 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: nomad
If the Democrats are determined not to let a crisis go to waste, the Republicans are wonderfully accomplished at wasting a crisis. About 12 hours ago I published this:

If Boehner had an ounce of common sense or even a millimeter of public relations sense, he and the Republican caucus would be at Andrews Air Force Base to meet the next flag draped coffins to act as honor guards.

I just heard on the radio that the Secretary of Defense Hagel is down at Andrews Air Force Base meeting the plane. Meanwhile, Jay Carney is shucking and jiving in an effort to turn back blame for this fiasco on the Republicans for improperly writing a law protecting veterans and for shutting down the government in the first place. The radio report left it quite open that this was the reason for widows and orphans being deprived of money to bury fallen heroes.

If we want to know why the Republicans cannot win a public-relations battle we ought to understand that, yes, we have the media to overcome but we do not overcome their resistance with talking heads. We need to do show and tell so the media will cover it. Next, I have been preaching since the Sarah Palin fiasco that principal Republican leaders should have a staff not just of speechwriters but of comedians who can break through the media wall with satire and humor.

These guys have millions of dollars to squander on repetitive TV ads but they have not a fraction of this amount to hone their message. These old bulls in the House and the Senate are 60 and 70 years old and they wonder why they are losing the vote of the 20 and 30-year-olds.


31 posted on 10/09/2013 1:14:03 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nomad

Millennials are Libertarian leaning. They believe in things like social justice and community service, but don’t trust the government to be involved.

They voted for Obama from a brand image marketing perspective. Doing so made them feel good about themselves. Just like owning an iPhone does.

Enough woke up to Obama in his first term to cause a six point drop in support for him in the 2012 election.

The question is, where can Conservatives find enough common cause with them to win elections, without selling out on core principles? Very tough question to answer, but if a happy medium can be found the Dems may be relegated to minority party status for 20-30 years. Especially since a lot of Obamas actions are driving them in our direction.


32 posted on 10/09/2013 1:14:21 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Cyber Liberty

Or cut the zip ties, roll up the fencing, and “store” it for them in the brush?


33 posted on 10/09/2013 1:16:35 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nathanbedford
Damn that`s good! An improvised honor guard, or use funds from the RNC to help out these families, set up a donation trust thru a conservative web site to help them out during this crisis and put out a call for private funds.
34 posted on 10/09/2013 1:21:47 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

Too kind. Yes, like that.


35 posted on 10/09/2013 1:23:56 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: nathanbedford

Another day, another blown opportunity by our “betters.”

I should mention, though, the military could make it backfire by refusing entry to our Congresscritters, then screaming about how our side is trying to showboat the dead soldiers, so it must be approached with finesse.


36 posted on 10/09/2013 1:26:29 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: nomad

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3076717/posts another small victory, for the time being.


37 posted on 10/09/2013 2:00:01 PM PDT by nomad
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"Or a big bolt cutter, they are silent and quick."

The gate I think they would close has a shroud over the lock to keep people from simply cutting the lock. I plan to saw through the gate pipe. That, or hook a chain to the thing and rip it out with my truck.

38 posted on 10/09/2013 2:13:48 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: nomad

Those leftists love those parks. They are hurt the most from this over reach.


39 posted on 10/09/2013 2:26:22 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: nomad

There’s really nothing to be so concerned about. If you don’t count Miriam Carey and a few other people, our government hasn’t actually started shooting down people in the streets.


40 posted on 10/09/2013 3:44:15 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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Very admirable by the Fisher House Foundation.

“Fisher House Foundation offers to cover death benefits”

A private foundation has stepped forward to cover death benefits for the families of troops who’ve been killed in combat after the Pentagon confirmed the payments have been suspended as a result of the partial government shutdown.

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., announced Tuesday that the Maryland-based Fisher House Foundation has offered to cover the $100,000 payments that the government typically pays out to families within three days of a soldier’s death.

“I am so grateful that the Fisher House Foundation volunteered to help military families to make sure there is no funding gap during a time of unimaginable grief, “ Manchin said in a statement, adding that the organization has agreed to cover flights, hotels and other incidentals for family members.

The Pentagon says that as long as the budget impasse lasts, it will not be able to pay death benefits to the families of troops who’ve been killed in combat.


41 posted on 10/09/2013 3:52:18 PM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: SW6906

Or an oxyacetylene torch.


42 posted on 10/09/2013 3:54:44 PM PDT by nomad
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To: justa-hairyape

My point, this is a chink in one of their base groups.


43 posted on 10/09/2013 3:58:00 PM PDT by nomad
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To: justa-hairyape

BTW, others love them too. I`m an avid bicyclist who can ride on the roads if needed but the Ohio and Erie Canal Tow Path is simply beautiful, especially this time of year. http://www.ohioeriecanal.org/trail.html


44 posted on 10/09/2013 4:54:53 PM PDT by nomad
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