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Ryan Drops All Obamacare Demands in WSJ Op-Ed
breitbart ^ | 10/9/13 | ben shapiro

Posted on 10/09/2013 1:27:43 PM PDT by bestintxas

On Monday, former vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, suggesting that Republicans drop all Obamacare demands in their push for a deal on the debt ceiling and a continuing resolution to fund the government. Instead, he suggested that Republicans look for a bargain on entitlement reform, a pet project of his, as well as tax reform. “This isn't a grand bargain. For that, we need a complete rethinking of government's approach to helping the most vulnerable, and a complete rethinking of government's approach to health care. But right now, we need to find common ground. We need to open the federal government. We need to pay our bills today—and make sure we can pay our bills tomorrow. So let's negotiate an agreement to make modest reforms to entitlement programs and the tax code,” Ryan wrote.

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KEYWORDS: loser; nomorerinos; rino; ryan; surrendermonkey; wisconsin
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To: tsowellfan
His FB page is overrun with Dems claiming that the Tea party and the Republicans are obstructionist and praising Ryan for this move.
41 posted on 10/09/2013 1:42:37 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Pietro
What is Ryan trying to do? Declare surrender on the cusp of victory?

It appears to me he's trying to suck up to the enemy because he thinks we're going to lose. He's just proving he never intended to win this. The so-called "shutdown" is doing an excellent job of smoking out the Vichy Republicans.

42 posted on 10/09/2013 1:42:44 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: bestintxas

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he’s not a RINO but is instead a miguided politician who is thinking about his future pathway rather than recognizing the constitutional crisis we’re in. There’s no more give, Ryan... no more give.


43 posted on 10/09/2013 1:43:21 PM PDT by Frapster (frak)
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To: stanne

Reelection.


44 posted on 10/09/2013 1:43:24 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: bestintxas

Yeah, this is the guy that was put on the ticket as supposedly the “conservative” counterbalance to Romney! And just months after the election, Ryan is all over the place, pushing amnesty and endorsing homo adoption. Now add Obamacare into the mix!

Is it any wonder I have now gone from a longtime and exclusive GOP voter/supporter to someone who has nothing but INTENSE and MASSIVE distrust towards the Republican Party? As if the first big clue, the backstabbing of Palin, wasn’t enough to wake me up... the betrayals of Rubio and Ryan certainly sealed things.


45 posted on 10/09/2013 1:43:47 PM PDT by greene66
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To: bestintxas

Wow! What a disappointment HE turned out to be! The GOP must have some special Quisling School where they send their contenders to be neutered and spayed.


46 posted on 10/09/2013 1:44:07 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: bestintxas
Let us put ourselves in Obama's head and consider that there are three possibilities here:

1. Obama wants a shutdown and a crisis and perhaps an economic meltdown. Evidence of this is his intractability in declining even to negotiate when Republicans were begging him for a fig leaf so they could surrender. He wants a calamity as an opportunity for transformation.

2. Obama wants a growing economy as a measure of his legacy and fears a shutdown just as his rhetoric says he does.

3. Obama wants to create a crisis so that he can unilaterally extend the debt limit thus violating the Constitution and usurping the Article 1 power of the purse from Congress.

If Obama's state of mind is accurately expressed in option #1, no amount of maneuvering or surrendering will divert him from extending the shutdown and busting the debt limit. The only thing left for the Republicans to salvage at that point will be to position themselves to avoid blame and survive politically in the fallout.

If Obama's state of mind is accurately expressed in option #2, there is a possibility for real negotiation and that means not that Republicans should be looking for ways to surrender but for ways to expand their victory. Paul Ryan obviously has no interest in derailing Obamacare and he is fixated on his original budget balancing crusade. He is right in the long run and very wrong in the short run. Who wins the negotiation depends on two factors, who refrains from blinking and who wins the public-relations battle. The winner of the public-relations battle can actually have both the modification of Obamacare and substantial rationalization of the budget.

If Obama's state of mind is accurately expressed in option #3, he probably dealing out of hubris and nothing will stop or deter him from his chosen course. If he is strong enough to unilaterally extend the debt limit and get away with it, I think the Republicans will have broken and Obama will finish his term as top dog.


47 posted on 10/09/2013 1:45:05 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I’m with you...let 0bamacare kick in right now, let the people get bitchslapped into reality, and then let next November become the year of a senate takeback.


48 posted on 10/09/2013 1:46:00 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: henkster

You have to understand who the Ryans and Rubios really answer to, and it isn’t anyone in Congress.


49 posted on 10/09/2013 1:46:25 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: CatherineofAragon

“One of these days, I’ll vote for a Republican who doesn’t make me end up regretting it.”

I already have. His name is Ted Cruz


50 posted on 10/09/2013 1:47:13 PM PDT by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: bestintxas

“-—modest reforms-—” suck on it Ryan. Get yourself motivated to actually do some good.


51 posted on 10/09/2013 1:47:26 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: bestintxas

POS


52 posted on 10/09/2013 1:47:48 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

AMNESTY WHORE POS


53 posted on 10/09/2013 1:51:17 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: bestintxas

IF he was ever a good man, he is no longe.
He is a chameleon, a vulture, a sycophant amongst the elites in DC.

He left the Heritage Foundation researchers out to dry when the wind changed direction, and he has no real intention to fix entitlement reform , his quote unquote pet issue, eeither, because he’s spent the last 3 weeks in closed door sessions with Democrats on behest of his corporate and pro-amnesty lobbyists to entitle another 30 million future penniless chain migration immigrants to leech from the welfare state after he passes his Amnesty Bill in the next month.

The House Bill to grant Amnesty to all illegals, and to provide chain mirtation allowing another 15 to 30 million penniless uneducated immigrants into the country is PAUL RYAN’s BILL. he negotiated it, he controls the GOP strategy, his aids and his lobbyist donors wrote this bill.

The man is purely out to provide for his own welath at this point. There is no longer a redeeming quality in his forked tongue approach of lying to the GOP rank and file while taking most of his donations from companies wanting to increase amnesty, immigration levels, and public entitlements.

The cognitive dissonance amongst the GOP elite’s public relations machinery has fallen apart at the seams.


54 posted on 10/09/2013 1:51:40 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: CatherineofAragon

>> One of these days &etc

I pray for a long life for you; you’ll need it.


55 posted on 10/09/2013 1:52:54 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: bestintxas

He has fallen to a point where he is an embarrassment even compared to all other RINOs and that’s going pretty far.


56 posted on 10/09/2013 1:53:33 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Maelstorm

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/paul-ryan/

Where Has Paul Ryan Been During the Latest Shutdown Debate?

By Matt Fuller
Posted at 2:08 p.m. on Sept. 27
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Nutless “Amnesty” Republican Paul Ryan is part of a group of House typical Democrats and weak Republicans who are still secretly working against the will of the American People by negotiating on an amnesty immigration bill which will legalize the millions of illegal immigrants who broke our laws to enter our country – and also instantly adding millions of new Democrat-leaning voters.

“GOP amnesty cheerleader Paul Ryan said late last week that he may plan to introduce a bill even without majority GOP support.”


57 posted on 10/09/2013 1:53:37 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: bestintxas

I never did trust him.

He did horribly in a debate against Mr. Foot-in-Mouth, which should have been a slam dunk, but wasn’t.

And the fact that the Prince of RINO’s chose him was suspect in itself.


58 posted on 10/09/2013 1:54:20 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: All

Ryan only wants to end this shut down so he can jump back in bed with Zuckerberg and pass amnesty ....he is a loathsome SOB that seems hell bent on destroying the country one way or another ....


59 posted on 10/09/2013 1:55:01 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: GeronL

He must have borrowed the playbook from Bob Dole.


60 posted on 10/09/2013 1:55:12 PM PDT by Defiant (The National Debt needs to be put under House arrest.)
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