Skip to comments.Ryan Drops All Obamacare Demands in WSJ Op-Ed
Posted on 10/09/2013 1:27:43 PM PDT by bestintxas
On Monday, former vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, suggesting that Republicans drop all Obamacare demands in their push for a deal on the debt ceiling and a continuing resolution to fund the government. Instead, he suggested that Republicans look for a bargain on entitlement reform, a pet project of his, as well as tax reform. This isn't a grand bargain. For that, we need a complete rethinking of government's approach to helping the most vulnerable, and a complete rethinking of government's approach to health care. But right now, we need to find common ground. We need to open the federal government. We need to pay our bills todayand make sure we can pay our bills tomorrow. So let's negotiate an agreement to make modest reforms to entitlement programs and the tax code, Ryan wrote.
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Another RINO we cannot stand.
Bite me, Paul Rino.
No Surrender, no RINOS!~
Or, he's a liberal turd with an (R) next to his name.
What a tool.
Now we know why Mittens chose him.
Do these guys bother to vet their ideas privately before they open their mouths in public?
Pro-Amnesty and Pro-Surrender.
Let him know how you feel...
Ryan has this laser-like focus on putting the screws to working and middle class GOP voters. Between his support for amnesty and his continued harping on cuts to SS and Medicare, programs to which the average GOP voter has contributed for decades, it’s clear that his constituents need someone else filling his congressional seat.
What motivates these guys?
Ping for later
I don’t know, there may be value to this depending upon how obamacare works out. If we get some real cuts in other areas, we fund obamacare for another year. By then so many people may hate it that we can bring it up again and kill it finally, with plenty of public support.
Particularly when the other party has a long track record of broken promises.
“I dont know, there may be value to this depending upon how obamacare works out. If we get some real cuts in other areas, we fund obamacare for another year. By then so many people may hate it that we can bring it up again and kill it finally, with plenty of public support.”
I think we have kicked the can down the road for way too many years.
Sometimes one must face the enemy head-on instead of retreating, like my Senator Ted Cruz.
Reagan did it to USSR and it brought em down
Just when we were winning...
Wolf Blitzer said the White House should take Republicans suggestion and delay Obamacare due to the poor performance of the websites that are facilitating it. If they werent fully ready, they should accept the advice that a lot of Republicans are giving them delay it another year, get it ready, and make sure it works,
Paul Ryan should be pilloried.
Pulling defeat from the jaws of victory
They get into Washington with the money, power fame and glory, and it becomes all about fund-raising and playing with the lobbyists.
The government contractors aren't giving tens of thousands to these guys campaigns to have their cash flow crimped by a "shutdown."
Ryan must own a white flag company.
Ryan wants to be the first to cave after seeing how much it’s done for Old Yellow-stain Boehner’s (hat-tip to Kurt Hoffman) career.
What's the biggest most FUBAR entitlement right out of the starting gate?
If you said "ObaMaoCare", then go to the head of the class. Ryan, go stand in the hall!
The more Ryan opens his mouth, the less I trust him.
A couple points about the health care "law":
1. It was never passed by the Senate in its current form. The law is an amalgam of the senate bill and the house bill stuck together w/o any reconciliation.
2. Not one republican voted for the law.
3. obama has suspended multiple articles of this law w/o approval from congress.
4. During the run up to passage obama repeatedly stated that the mandate was not a tax, and yet the USSC allowed the law to go through because Roberts, and he alone, called it a tax and therefore, unbeleivably a tax.
What is Ryan trying to do? Declare surrender on the cusp of victory?
Paul Ryan-O was a 5th columnist all along.
Well, that political future just cancelled itself.
OMG! Does Ryan realize he just ruined he career? What an idiot.
Wolfie gets it, Ryan doesn’t. Go figure.
Years back when many were swooning at this pretty baby face, I cautioned that he was mediocre in his thinking and that his apparent popularity was a creation of the liberal media a la McCain.
This is what we get. Benedict McCain and Tokyo Ryan. I wonder what the NSA has on Cruz. Or what it claims it has. They can manufacture anything.
That statement sums up my thoughts about why Romney chose him.
(shhh... we got us a real naive one here...)
HEY PAUL! Tell you what, man. Since you’re a dealmaker why don’t you trade me your house and car for this little sack of magic BEANS! Later (coincidentally long after I have cashed in your titles) they will grow into magic beanstalks leading into a really cool fantasy kingdom! TRUST ME!
(Well, why shouldn’t I give it a shot — it’s the exact type of deal he wants to buy into with the Kenyan and his ‘rats...)
One of these days, I’ll vote for a Republican who doesn’t make me end up regretting it.
Paul Ryan unfortunately has always telegraphed that when the rubber met the road the establishment would always get his vote. I can’t think of one vote where he bucked the party establishment. Is he a Rhino, not really but he is an establishment guy. You aren’t going to find him throwing bombs like Peter King, Charlie Dent, and John McCain but you will find him going out of his way not to upset the boat.
Let’s drop him instead.
This is a response to Obama's speech. Trying to sound reasonable without giving an inch. The devil is always in the details.
Sure we will have another continuing resolution. (Except It will require a 30% reduction in the budget. And Major changes to entitlements, especially Obamacare.)
It isn't in anyone's interest to have a shut down of non essential employees. So let's have the senate and the president agree to our plan.
In 100 years time, people haven't been able to kill income taxes.
He’s a lightweight.
It’s wisdom that kept people from going out and voting for these two characters.
It appears to me he's trying to suck up to the enemy because he thinks we're going to lose. He's just proving he never intended to win this. The so-called "shutdown" is doing an excellent job of smoking out the Vichy Republicans.
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he’s not a RINO but is instead a miguided politician who is thinking about his future pathway rather than recognizing the constitutional crisis we’re in. There’s no more give, Ryan... no more give.
Yeah, this is the guy that was put on the ticket as supposedly the “conservative” counterbalance to Romney! And just months after the election, Ryan is all over the place, pushing amnesty and endorsing homo adoption. Now add Obamacare into the mix!
Is it any wonder I have now gone from a longtime and exclusive GOP voter/supporter to someone who has nothing but INTENSE and MASSIVE distrust towards the Republican Party? As if the first big clue, the backstabbing of Palin, wasn’t enough to wake me up... the betrayals of Rubio and Ryan certainly sealed things.
Wow! What a disappointment HE turned out to be! The GOP must have some special Quisling School where they send their contenders to be neutered and spayed.
1. Obama wants a shutdown and a crisis and perhaps an economic meltdown. Evidence of this is his intractability in declining even to negotiate when Republicans were begging him for a fig leaf so they could surrender. He wants a calamity as an opportunity for transformation.
2. Obama wants a growing economy as a measure of his legacy and fears a shutdown just as his rhetoric says he does.
3. Obama wants to create a crisis so that he can unilaterally extend the debt limit thus violating the Constitution and usurping the Article 1 power of the purse from Congress.
If Obama's state of mind is accurately expressed in option #1, no amount of maneuvering or surrendering will divert him from extending the shutdown and busting the debt limit. The only thing left for the Republicans to salvage at that point will be to position themselves to avoid blame and survive politically in the fallout.
If Obama's state of mind is accurately expressed in option #2, there is a possibility for real negotiation and that means not that Republicans should be looking for ways to surrender but for ways to expand their victory. Paul Ryan obviously has no interest in derailing Obamacare and he is fixated on his original budget balancing crusade. He is right in the long run and very wrong in the short run. Who wins the negotiation depends on two factors, who refrains from blinking and who wins the public-relations battle. The winner of the public-relations battle can actually have both the modification of Obamacare and substantial rationalization of the budget.
If Obama's state of mind is accurately expressed in option #3, he probably dealing out of hubris and nothing will stop or deter him from his chosen course. If he is strong enough to unilaterally extend the debt limit and get away with it, I think the Republicans will have broken and Obama will finish his term as top dog.
I’m with you...let 0bamacare kick in right now, let the people get bitchslapped into reality, and then let next November become the year of a senate takeback.
You have to understand who the Ryans and Rubios really answer to, and it isn’t anyone in Congress.
“One of these days, Ill vote for a Republican who doesnt make me end up regretting it.”
I already have. His name is Ted Cruz
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