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Ryan Drops All Obamacare Demands in WSJ Op-Ed
breitbart ^ | 10/9/13 | ben shapiro

Posted on 10/09/2013 1:27:43 PM PDT by bestintxas

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To: bestintxas

“-—modest reforms-—” suck on it Ryan. Get yourself motivated to actually do some good.


51 posted on 10/09/2013 1:47:26 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: bestintxas

POS


52 posted on 10/09/2013 1:47:48 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

AMNESTY WHORE POS


53 posted on 10/09/2013 1:51:17 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: bestintxas

IF he was ever a good man, he is no longe.
He is a chameleon, a vulture, a sycophant amongst the elites in DC.

He left the Heritage Foundation researchers out to dry when the wind changed direction, and he has no real intention to fix entitlement reform , his quote unquote pet issue, eeither, because he’s spent the last 3 weeks in closed door sessions with Democrats on behest of his corporate and pro-amnesty lobbyists to entitle another 30 million future penniless chain migration immigrants to leech from the welfare state after he passes his Amnesty Bill in the next month.

The House Bill to grant Amnesty to all illegals, and to provide chain mirtation allowing another 15 to 30 million penniless uneducated immigrants into the country is PAUL RYAN’s BILL. he negotiated it, he controls the GOP strategy, his aids and his lobbyist donors wrote this bill.

The man is purely out to provide for his own welath at this point. There is no longer a redeeming quality in his forked tongue approach of lying to the GOP rank and file while taking most of his donations from companies wanting to increase amnesty, immigration levels, and public entitlements.

The cognitive dissonance amongst the GOP elite’s public relations machinery has fallen apart at the seams.


54 posted on 10/09/2013 1:51:40 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: CatherineofAragon

>> One of these days &etc

I pray for a long life for you; you’ll need it.


55 posted on 10/09/2013 1:52:54 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: bestintxas

He has fallen to a point where he is an embarrassment even compared to all other RINOs and that’s going pretty far.


56 posted on 10/09/2013 1:53:33 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Maelstorm

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/paul-ryan/

Where Has Paul Ryan Been During the Latest Shutdown Debate?

By Matt Fuller
Posted at 2:08 p.m. on Sept. 27
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Nutless “Amnesty” Republican Paul Ryan is part of a group of House typical Democrats and weak Republicans who are still secretly working against the will of the American People by negotiating on an amnesty immigration bill which will legalize the millions of illegal immigrants who broke our laws to enter our country – and also instantly adding millions of new Democrat-leaning voters.

“GOP amnesty cheerleader Paul Ryan said late last week that he may plan to introduce a bill even without majority GOP support.”


57 posted on 10/09/2013 1:53:37 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: bestintxas

I never did trust him.

He did horribly in a debate against Mr. Foot-in-Mouth, which should have been a slam dunk, but wasn’t.

And the fact that the Prince of RINO’s chose him was suspect in itself.


58 posted on 10/09/2013 1:54:20 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: All

Ryan only wants to end this shut down so he can jump back in bed with Zuckerberg and pass amnesty ....he is a loathsome SOB that seems hell bent on destroying the country one way or another ....


59 posted on 10/09/2013 1:55:01 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: GeronL

He must have borrowed the playbook from Bob Dole.


60 posted on 10/09/2013 1:55:12 PM PDT by Defiant (The National Debt needs to be put under House arrest.)
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To: bestintxas
Ryan was added to the Romney ticket only because he was the author of an actual House budget that passed and was sent to the Senate.

This only makes sense if Romney had intended to use Ryan to press Obama and Reid into passing a Senate budget as a part of the presidential campaign.

Romney didn't, and so elevating Ryan, in hindsight, added no value.

-PJ

61 posted on 10/09/2013 1:55:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: bestintxas

He has fallen to a point where he is an embarrassment even compared to all other RINOs and that’s going pretty far.


62 posted on 10/09/2013 1:56:08 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

When you champion giving children to sodomites, you can’t sink any lower.


63 posted on 10/09/2013 1:57:47 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: bestintxas

Lazy. Ryan needs to do his own 20 hour filibuster.


64 posted on 10/09/2013 2:00:19 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: JerseyHighlander

They are idiots. How do they think they will win voters by focusing on the interests of people who don’t vote. I could come up with countless other more practical and effective ways to pander to hispanic citizens versus pandering to people who are not citizens but have broken immigration law.


65 posted on 10/09/2013 2:00:52 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: stanne

Like market investors, fear and greed. With the current thug regime I’m biased towards fear being the primary motivator but we little people are not privy to the facts, so we’ll never know. Very disappointing though. I liked Ryan.


66 posted on 10/09/2013 2:02:26 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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To: Nervous Tick

LOL, yeah. OTOH, maybe Cruz will run.


67 posted on 10/09/2013 2:03:57 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: bestintxas

I hope I can do the same one day.


68 posted on 10/09/2013 2:05:04 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: JSDude1

pass along your feelings folks

http://www.speaker.gov/contact


69 posted on 10/09/2013 2:05:38 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: bestintxas

I am soooooo over Ryan.


70 posted on 10/09/2013 2:06:24 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: leapfrog0202

I don’t have Facebook, or I’d leave a comment telling him that he better hope all these ‘rats praising him for sticking a knife in our backs, vote for him in his next election. Wonder if he’d like to bet on that.


71 posted on 10/09/2013 2:06:36 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: bestintxas

Mr. Ryan,

You are pathetic a$$hole and a traitor.

Sincerely,

A free man.


72 posted on 10/09/2013 2:07:30 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: IronJack

I do believe it, and it makes it all the more wondrous that Cruz somehow skipped it. I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop, still-amnesty?


73 posted on 10/09/2013 2:08:05 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Fido969

The also come to Washington with many skeletons in the closet, and a lot of dirty “baggage.” All carefully tracked for years, through the trajectory of their political careers. When the time comes, they get a late night phone call. Suddenly, a RINO is born.


74 posted on 10/09/2013 2:10:25 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: mrsmel

Yeah, probably. Republicans seem to be measured on how well they earn the trust of conservatives ... then betray it.


75 posted on 10/09/2013 2:12:48 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: bestintxas

Wimp!


76 posted on 10/09/2013 2:17:41 PM PDT by expat2
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To: bestintxas
negotiating against one's self is not too bright

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77 posted on 10/09/2013 2:17:57 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: bestintxas

Although Ryan show signs of brilliance, he is, at his core, a politician. Besides odd jobs in HS and College, as well as moonlighting while a legislative assistance, he has not been in the private sector.


78 posted on 10/09/2013 2:18:24 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Vince Ferrer

“I don’t know, there may be value to this depending upon how obamacare works out. If we get some real cuts in other areas, we fund obamacare for another year. By then so many people may hate it that we can bring it up again and kill it finally, with plenty of public support.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

There is something to this. But we would have to get firm meaningful action on tax reform and entitlements.

Question to all: Would you trade taking Obamacare as is (knowing the public would hate it and likely demand its repeal down the road) for a flat tax with very few deductions AND full privatization of Social Security?


79 posted on 10/09/2013 2:20:39 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: SoConPubbie

He’s sharing a room with Marco Rubio.


80 posted on 10/09/2013 2:38:27 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: bestintxas

What a jerk.


81 posted on 10/09/2013 2:38:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bestintxas

Bachman was right about RINO Ryan.


82 posted on 10/09/2013 2:41:00 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: South40

Obama used the NSA to find dirt on him.

*********
My thought as well. He’s been compromised in some way, just like Roberts.


83 posted on 10/09/2013 2:43:22 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: henkster

Sure they do, just with themselves, their friends, their families, their mirrors!


84 posted on 10/09/2013 2:57:57 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: MeganC

Keep your decorum. Ryan’s making the correct move here. It’s time to pivot, take another cut at government and move on.

We’re not going to get rid of Obamacare this go round and we’re better off letting people learn to hate it all the way.


85 posted on 10/09/2013 3:12:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: South40

He’s a Vichy Republican.


86 posted on 10/09/2013 3:14:49 PM PDT by chickenlips (Primary them all.)
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To: stanne

What motivates these guys?


Couldn’t agree more; you’d think being an American matters to these guys, but it seems greased palms and greed ensuring they have theirs for life and somehow we’ll just think it’s ok and believe them. Why do they think we’re that stupid? I sincerely believe we are MUCH MUCH more intelligent than 99% of the inside the beltway occupants.


87 posted on 10/09/2013 3:16:49 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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To: Starboard

“...My thought as well. He’s been compromised in some way, just like Roberts.....”

Probably threatened his wife and kids just like they did with “Benedict” Roberts.
When NSA and the IRS became political tools, they should have been abolished. They no longer serve for the good of the People, but instead that of the communist party. Damn shame really.


88 posted on 10/09/2013 3:20:45 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: 1010RD

-——We’re not going to get rid of Obamacare this go round -—

You are correct.

The Tea Party demand was heard, analyzed, and acted on. As about everybody that truly understood reckoned, it was rejected and not acted on by the Senate. The Obamacare funding bill is for the time being dead

To oppose the House leadership for gearing up for the next assault is truly foolish. The battles are being waged.

The outcome is uncertain but since the rejection, obamacare is falling apart and is a terrible blow to the DNC ability to fight on so many fronts. While total victory is unlikely in the immediate future, the tide has changed


89 posted on 10/09/2013 3:29:19 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bestintxas

Ryan has been dead to me since he made the radio ad for amnesty.

70% of immigrants—of all kinds—vote for abortion.

Anyone who seeks more immigration, or citizenship for illegals, or lax law enforcement that permits illegals to vote, is pro-abortion.

And that includes Archbishop Gomez, Bishop Blaire, Cardinal Dolan, etc., etc.


90 posted on 10/09/2013 3:30:27 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: greene66

I had forgotten about his endorsement of gay adoption—something that the Catholic Church unambiguously condemns as a violation of the rights of the child. Ryan seems to have got the memo on abortion, but not gay adoption.


91 posted on 10/09/2013 3:36:10 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

we fund obamacare for another year.”

My family represents only five votes but none of us will vote for anyone in 2014 who votes to fund Obamacare for another year unless such a bill also includes the immediate impeachment of Obama.


92 posted on 10/09/2013 3:39:48 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: bert

Exactly, you don’t get there in a straight line or via one last final battle. We need to win Congress in 2014. Let that be our goal.

Given Obamacare’s disastrous start and known faults a lot of toss ups are going our way. Find good candidates, support the leaders as they move forward and wring concessions along the way.

Keep in mind that Obama is scared. He’s losing. Sequestration happens again in 2014 without a budget deal. Plus, all his shenanigans keep F&F, Benghazi, IRS targeting, etc. out of the news.


93 posted on 10/09/2013 3:43:47 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Vote out the punk.


94 posted on 10/09/2013 3:45:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: bestintxas

This twerp is flaming out fast. I predict that within 4 years he will working as a lobbyist in DC.


95 posted on 10/09/2013 3:45:43 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: bestintxas

Sigh... and he seemed so promising.

Toileted. Done. Turnin’ me’ back on ‘im.


96 posted on 10/09/2013 3:45:45 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: bestintxas

This proves my pet contention that the real opponent we have in this particular budget battle is the RINO, not the Demovik.

It’s going to be the real opponent we face from now until 2016 and possibly beyond. We either convert or crush the RINOs—or we lose.


97 posted on 10/09/2013 3:55:49 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: bestintxas

My, how far this little twerp has fallen...


98 posted on 10/09/2013 4:01:55 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: lgjhn23

The NSA and IRS gave Obama political weapons the likes of which he never hoped to see in his wildest dreams. Chicago, where he learned the fine art of extortion, is a minor thugocracy compared to the destructive intimidation power that Washington has afforded him. Its open season on any poltician who opposes him.


99 posted on 10/09/2013 4:02:58 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: jmaroneps37

He’s a sheep in wolf’s clothing. Trying to appear outwardly tough, but deep down a weak appeaser.


100 posted on 10/09/2013 4:04:35 PM PDT by Starboard
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