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SERIOUSLY? National Park Service spitefully removes handles from water fountains
Catholic Online ^ | 10-8-2013 | Marshall Connolly

Posted on 10/09/2013 2:28:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: Dacula; All

Is there any possibility that this is part of the water shut down for upcoming freezing weather?

141 posted on 10/10/2013 1:14:40 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: moviefan8

It’s beyond time to bring out the guns. Start tarring and feathering in mobs, and to strike the fear of a FREE REPUBLIC into our government. If anyone thinks it’s just the NPS then you are naive, it’s every single department, they are all rotten at the core.

142 posted on 10/10/2013 1:43:42 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: SJackson

“I hope you didn’t mean to compare park rangers blocking access to parks to the crimes prosecuted at Nuremburg.”

Of course not. My point is that reflexively running to the excuse of Just Following Orders is not defensible.

143 posted on 10/10/2013 2:05:38 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: BlatherNaut
I wonder if anyone actually witnessed the handles being removed. Seems more likely the work of vandals capitalizing on the reduced security presence due to furloughs.

Though I applaud, in the spirit "innocent to proven guilty", your willingness to entertain another explanation, the truly sad thing about reports like these is this: it is no longer a stretch of the imagination to conclude that the childish spite driving these actions is, in fact, emanating from the highest office of the land. With the Obama White Spite House, anything is possible.

The only silver lining to the horribly dark cloud that has descended upon America is that when I speak with my lefty family members (every family has a few), I can now ask them a question: "Do you honestly believe that if a Republican President presided over such blatantly spiteful National Park Service actions that the major news outlets would remain as quiet as they are doing today with Obama's NPS? Do you honestly think that erecting barricades around the open-air World War II memorial while allowing National Mall access to supporters of some favored interest group to erect a stage would not be resoundingly condemned by ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and the AP every moment of every day?"

In short, my lefty family members finally have to concede that the major news outlets are, in fact, far from impartial. To claim otherwise is just plain delusional. Yes, there's always a delusional hold-out or two. There always will be. But I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the members of my family who grew up Democrat, and just never had--or took--the time to look into why.

All of the petulance, arrogance, and childishness that is Barack Obama and his fellow travelers is now exposed for all to see. All the talk about George W. Bush being an imperial president is now coming home to roost when it is abundantly clear that Bush didn't even attempt one-tenth of one percent of what Obama has already done.

Whether this will translate into fewer people voting Democrat in the future is anyone's guess. Life-long habits and delusions are hard to give up. So I, for one, am not holding my breath. Still, the disgust at Obama I now see in the eyes of my loved ones who up till recently had a favorable opinion of Barry baby is a welcome change. Up till now some of my family members thought I was the wacky one. Now they're finally wondering if I hadn't been right all along.

144 posted on 10/10/2013 2:31:04 AM PDT by Jefferson Spins (in his grave at Monticello because our republic is imperiled from within.)
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To: smoothsailing

Planting the seeds for a future revolt.

145 posted on 10/10/2013 2:57:59 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: smoothsailing

NPS are BROWN SHIRT THUGS!!! Even the LIV are going to see what this admin. has done.

146 posted on 10/10/2013 4:28:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: miserare

Thank you for being a great FReeper!!

I wish more would do this. Seeing thousands (hopefully millions) of Gadsden flags flying all over would be a daily message that’s hard to ignore.

IIRC, you can get a 3’x 5’ flag through Amazon for $5. I’m thinking of buying them in bulk and giving as Christmas gifts. (or birthdays, or ....)

147 posted on 10/10/2013 4:29:08 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: smoothsailing

This sounds like Tim Kaine who trashed Virginia’s rest stops because there was no money-literally ripping out plumbing fixtures. Bob MaDonnell was elected and found the money to repair the structures and open them.

Unfortunately, Tim Kaine is now a Senator, Obama was elected with the help of Virginia, and Terry McAulliffe (former head of the DNC) is ahead in the polls to become the next governor. Virginia is going to the dogs.

148 posted on 10/10/2013 4:37:22 AM PDT by HarleyD ( of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: Jim Scott
Psychologist Stanley Milgram designed an experiment where "teachers" shocked "students" for incorrect answer and proved how two-thirds of people were willing, under orders of an authority figure, to shock to the limit (extreme pain or potential death).

Living in Minnesota I had viewed NPS rangers kind of like Scout leaders but these past few days have proved me wrong.

Studies show that two of three people will go along to get along, even with the most extreme abuse and even torture.

The die is cast, Obama Care is the new "Final Solution" and seniors citizens and white baby-boomers are soon to be executed by the Brown Orifice (BO) in the White Hut.

149 posted on 10/10/2013 4:44:51 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Tried to tell 'em Affirmative Action was a bad idea...Now look what happened!)
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To: Windflier

Are they sure about the Great Allegheny Passage? That is a private facility.

150 posted on 10/10/2013 4:48:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: BitWielder1

This will not end well, hopefully.

151 posted on 10/10/2013 5:18:41 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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shutting off the water does not involve removing the handles from the fountains. This is just spiteful.

152 posted on 10/10/2013 5:46:12 AM PDT by vortec94
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At many parks around here, they shut off the water this time of year, just in case of freezing pipes, etc. Just sayin’ it might have nothing to do with the shutdown...

I was wondering the same thing.

153 posted on 10/10/2013 5:58:30 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Bob

You shut down water lines by closing their supply valves, not by removing faucet handles. (Nice excuse-making though. Very creative of you.)

So why didn’t they just close the supply valves?

154 posted on 10/10/2013 6:08:12 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Borax Queen

Park Police have been around for a long time as you say, but they were always a separate entity from your basic “park ranger”. Now, they are all vested with police power and I don’t believe that was the case until the patriot act.

155 posted on 10/10/2013 6:10:36 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: chessplayer
So why didn’t they just close the supply valves?

That wouldn't send the same message, would it?

156 posted on 10/10/2013 6:16:29 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: generally
Does it seem to you as if the federal government has declared war on its citizens?

Yes. They have forgotten they are supposed to work for us free citizens, they are increasingly acting like overlords against disobedient peasants.
The tone of course comes from the top.

157 posted on 10/10/2013 6:22:12 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: smoothsailing
Here's my first amendment message regarding this and many other recent actions by the #SpiteHouse,

158 posted on 10/10/2013 6:22:42 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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For many parks and campgrounds, private companies DO run them. The Park service shut them down. Coyoteblog belongs to a guy who previously ran about a hundred of he just pays for their utilities and insurance as they sit closed.

159 posted on 10/10/2013 6:33:03 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SJackson; RKBA Democrat; smoothsailing
127 posted on 10/9/2013 9:27:29 PM by SJackson: “No, it didn’t, nor should it. I hope you didn’t mean to compare park rangers blocking access to parks to the crimes prosecuted at Nuremburg. This isn’t a matter of illegal orders. Distasteful orders, I hope to most. But not much more.”

That is a very important distinction.

There is a reason why we have civilian control of the military, as well as the non-military uniformed forces such as the police and fire departments.

Illegal orders are not what's going on — at least not yet.

I'm not defending some of the obnoxious things that have been reported being done by National Park Service personnel over the last few days. I don't know details but I'm quite willing to believe that some really bad things have happened.

However, when push comes to shove — as it did at the World War II Memorial — reports posted here on Free Republic seem to indicate that the Park Service personnel started going out of their way to find “creative” ways to obey the letter of the law while ignoring the spirit of the law to close the World War II memorial.

That is de facto but not de jure disobedience by those in uniform — doing exactly what the order says but effectively contradicting what the order was meant to accomplish.

I think SJackson might know quite a bit about the real crimes prosecuted at Nuremberg in which people claimed to be “just following orders,” and they aren't anywhere in the same ball park as what the National Park Service are doing here.

Before people say small things turn into big things, that's true — but not the way it may be meant.

If local German police had de facto resisted Hitler's early orders in ways comparable to what the National Park Service is doing at the World War II Memorial, it would have sent a clear but quiet signal that the German bureaucracy would not follow the leadership of jackbooted thugs and wannabees who, in the early days of the Nazis, often put on Nazi Party uniforms in part because they couldn't meet the strict standards of the Prussian-dominated German civil service and its post-WW1 severely reduced military.

It's no secret that the professional German military and much of the educated civil service hated Hitler and regarded him as a fool. They did nothing in the early days, and often actively cooperated once he gained power.

We are seeing something very different from the National Park Service, at least so far.

And when it comes to the military, this scandal of dead servicemembers’ families not getting their death benefits is not going down well among anyone on active duty who I know. People who usually avoid politics are blazing mad — and you can tell it by the wives and retirees who get on Facebook and blast the President with the obvious quiet support of their active-duty husbands and active-duty sons and daughters.

I do not think President Obama is smart enough to pull off an armed takeover of our government, even if he wanted to do so — and one example of that is this abuse of our dead soldiers’ families. That is not something that will be forgotten quickly by those wearing the uniform. When people's lives are on the line, they need to know their families will be taken care of if they die. If they aren't sure of those things, they start pulling back, holding fire, and avoiding risks and dangers. Hesitation and fear about what will happen back home are “rust” which degrade military morale, and Obama is not exactly giving soldiers the confidence they need to follow his orders if things get really bad.

160 posted on 10/10/2013 6:43:06 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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