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SERIOUSLY? National Park Service spitefully removes handles from water fountains
Catholic Online ^ | 10-8-2013 | Marshall Connolly

Posted on 10/09/2013 2:28:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: BitWielder1

This will not end well, hopefully.


151 posted on 10/10/2013 5:18:41 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NEMDF

shutting off the water does not involve removing the handles from the fountains. This is just spiteful.


152 posted on 10/10/2013 5:46:12 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: NEMDF

At many parks around here, they shut off the water this time of year, just in case of freezing pipes, etc. Just sayin’ it might have nothing to do with the shutdown...


I was wondering the same thing.


153 posted on 10/10/2013 5:58:30 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Bob

You shut down water lines by closing their supply valves, not by removing faucet handles. (Nice excuse-making though. Very creative of you.)


So why didn’t they just close the supply valves?


154 posted on 10/10/2013 6:08:12 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Borax Queen

Park Police have been around for a long time as you say, but they were always a separate entity from your basic “park ranger”. Now, they are all vested with police power and I don’t believe that was the case until the patriot act.


155 posted on 10/10/2013 6:10:36 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: chessplayer
So why didn’t they just close the supply valves?

That wouldn't send the same message, would it?

156 posted on 10/10/2013 6:16:29 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: generally
Does it seem to you as if the federal government has declared war on its citizens?

Yes. They have forgotten they are supposed to work for us free citizens, they are increasingly acting like overlords against disobedient peasants.
The tone of course comes from the top.

157 posted on 10/10/2013 6:22:12 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: smoothsailing
Here's my first amendment message regarding this and many other recent actions by the #SpiteHouse,


158 posted on 10/10/2013 6:22:42 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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To: GOPJ

For many parks and campgrounds, private companies DO run them. The Park service shut them down. Coyoteblog belongs to a guy who previously ran about a hundred of them...now he just pays for their utilities and insurance as they sit closed.


159 posted on 10/10/2013 6:33:03 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SJackson; RKBA Democrat; smoothsailing
127 posted on 10/9/2013 9:27:29 PM by SJackson: “No, it didn’t, nor should it. I hope you didn’t mean to compare park rangers blocking access to parks to the crimes prosecuted at Nuremburg. This isn’t a matter of illegal orders. Distasteful orders, I hope to most. But not much more.”

That is a very important distinction.

There is a reason why we have civilian control of the military, as well as the non-military uniformed forces such as the police and fire departments.

Illegal orders are not what's going on — at least not yet.

I'm not defending some of the obnoxious things that have been reported being done by National Park Service personnel over the last few days. I don't know details but I'm quite willing to believe that some really bad things have happened.

However, when push comes to shove — as it did at the World War II Memorial — reports posted here on Free Republic seem to indicate that the Park Service personnel started going out of their way to find “creative” ways to obey the letter of the law while ignoring the spirit of the law to close the World War II memorial.

That is de facto but not de jure disobedience by those in uniform — doing exactly what the order says but effectively contradicting what the order was meant to accomplish.

I think SJackson might know quite a bit about the real crimes prosecuted at Nuremberg in which people claimed to be “just following orders,” and they aren't anywhere in the same ball park as what the National Park Service are doing here.

Before people say small things turn into big things, that's true — but not the way it may be meant.

If local German police had de facto resisted Hitler's early orders in ways comparable to what the National Park Service is doing at the World War II Memorial, it would have sent a clear but quiet signal that the German bureaucracy would not follow the leadership of jackbooted thugs and wannabees who, in the early days of the Nazis, often put on Nazi Party uniforms in part because they couldn't meet the strict standards of the Prussian-dominated German civil service and its post-WW1 severely reduced military.

It's no secret that the professional German military and much of the educated civil service hated Hitler and regarded him as a fool. They did nothing in the early days, and often actively cooperated once he gained power.

We are seeing something very different from the National Park Service, at least so far.

And when it comes to the military, this scandal of dead servicemembers’ families not getting their death benefits is not going down well among anyone on active duty who I know. People who usually avoid politics are blazing mad — and you can tell it by the wives and retirees who get on Facebook and blast the President with the obvious quiet support of their active-duty husbands and active-duty sons and daughters.

I do not think President Obama is smart enough to pull off an armed takeover of our government, even if he wanted to do so — and one example of that is this abuse of our dead soldiers’ families. That is not something that will be forgotten quickly by those wearing the uniform. When people's lives are on the line, they need to know their families will be taken care of if they die. If they aren't sure of those things, they start pulling back, holding fire, and avoiding risks and dangers. Hesitation and fear about what will happen back home are “rust” which degrade military morale, and Obama is not exactly giving soldiers the confidence they need to follow his orders if things get really bad.

160 posted on 10/10/2013 6:43:06 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: ponygirl

If that SOB Nazi ranger had screamed at me and stuck his finger in MY face, I would screamed right back at him with language that would make a Marine and a long shoreman both blush.

I also would have told him if he doesn’t get his finger out of my face, he will be giving himself a prostate exam with his detached finger.

Damn tyrants.


161 posted on 10/10/2013 6:57:08 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: RetroSexual

“So why didn’t they just close the supply valves?”

That wouldn’t send the same message, would it?


Sure it would send the same message,,,no water for the peasants. Did anyone see Rangers doing it? The article doesn’t mention any witnesses. NPS Rangers have already done a lot of horrible and spiteful things in the name of their Master. Things we KNOW they have done. They might have done it, we just don’t know. (if they did do it, i imagine they would be thumping their chests and bragging about it)


162 posted on 10/10/2013 7:09:22 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: dead

This made me LOL. Literally.


163 posted on 10/10/2013 7:11:40 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: chessplayer
I appreciate what you're saying.

So regardless of the culprit's identity, have the Rangers replaced the missing handles? It's not as if they're too busy these days.

I live near the "public lands" in question. Maybe I'll risk the $100 fine this weekend and have a look.

164 posted on 10/10/2013 7:20:47 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: smoothsailing

Imagine such a vindictive government being in a position to approve or deny medical care...oh wait....


165 posted on 10/10/2013 7:42:02 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: dead

Someone needs to do a “Hitler finds out” vid - people are still using the parks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrHmcpRAZNs


166 posted on 10/10/2013 7:48:52 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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To: lepton

lepton - read the Greenfield piece at the link below... It explains the ‘why’ to Obama’s meanness... You’ll love it:

“There are few moments that sum up the meanness of spirit of the Obama Blockade as well as a park ranger angrily telling senior citizens to get back on the bus and stop taking photos because they are engaging in forbidden “recreating”.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3077130/posts


167 posted on 10/10/2013 7:57:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: Ouderkirk

I don’t know what else that Communist Act added — however, park rangers have long been law-enforcement commissioned. They were in a separate category from the generalist park ranger (e.g. interpreter, fee collector), but they’ve long had police powers. They were proud to take over the title of “park ranger” (so that no one else working for the NPS was “really” a “park ranger” anymore, and instead, almost treated like a second-class citizen). The general public was too asleep to notice.


168 posted on 10/10/2013 8:30:35 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: smoothsailing
Hairy Reid responds to questions about his anatomy.
169 posted on 10/10/2013 8:31:57 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: GOPJ

Thank you. For how hyperbolic it sounds, or especially would have sounded a couple of weeks ago, it makes a disturbing amount of sense.


170 posted on 10/10/2013 8:58:30 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: chessplayer
So why didn’t they just close the supply valves?

If they did that, people might mistakenly think that there was something wrong with the water system. Taking the faucet handles off lets people know that it's being done deliberately. Doing that lets people know who's in charge.

171 posted on 10/10/2013 8:59:13 AM PDT by Bob
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To: HarleyD

Northern Virginia is to Virginia as Philadelphia is to Pennsylvania.


172 posted on 10/10/2013 9:54:09 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Jack Hammer

I’m not the least bit worried about the US Military. But remember Obamuzzie said he wanted a civilian security force as well-funded and large as the military. I suppose the NPS would have the makings of a couple battalions. Notable thing about that tho is that, unless they start living in barracks, they have to live among the rest of us. And that’s never easy for in ingrownprick to do. Especially with a record of pushing people around.


173 posted on 10/10/2013 10:11:11 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Fiji Hill

Any candidate who promises to work to get rid of all of the National Parks has got my vote.
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Give them to the State(s) in which they are located with a “must maintain as a Park” caveat. Hell, many of them are profitable (fees, etc.) anyhow.


174 posted on 10/10/2013 10:25:39 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: House Atreides

Give them to the State(s) —— but only after arranging for the FIRING every last Park Service employee. And no more damn pay raises for them in the interim!


175 posted on 10/10/2013 10:27:42 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

Removing the service handle on a fountain does not prevent damage. They have to remove the supply (there must be a shutoff somewhere) and at least partially drain the fountain to prevent frozen pipes bursting.


176 posted on 10/10/2013 10:36:23 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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