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PM Ralph Gonsalves Speaks in Harlem on Reparations (“They stole us. They sold us. They owe us!”)
Black Voice News ^ | October 8, 2013 | Amadi Ajamu, Special to the NNPA from the New York Amsterdam News

Posted on 10/09/2013 8:47:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

While in New York attending the United National General Assembly of Heads of State, Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves of St. Vincent and the Grenadines came to Harlem to join the New York City-based December 12th Movement International Secretariat on Sept. 24 in their report back to our community on the CARICOM First Regional Reparations Conference, held in St. Vincent and the Grenadines Sept. 14-17.

At the forum, held at the Adam Clayton Powell Jr. State Office Building, Gonsalves stated, “As to where we are with the reparations issue and where we are going to, for 30, 40 or more years in the Caribbean, we have had discussions among scholars, small groups of persons in the Caribbean and in the Diaspora on the issue of reparations. It has reached center stage now with the decision of the 14 member states of the Caribbean Community [CARICOM] to establish a Caribbean Reparations Commission to spearhead the work for reparations from Britain in the form of the former British colonies, France in relation to Haiti and the Netherlands as regards to Surinam.

“We first took the decision in early July at the [CARICOM] Summit in Trinidad. My chairmanship runs through the 30th of June, although I am on the Bureau of the Heads of Government Conference until the 31st of December next year. I’m hoping that we could get letters off during my chairmanship to the European governments so that we can commence in earnest the conversation, the discussion, the demand, the claim for reparations,” he continued.

“If those discussions do not prove to be satisfactory, it is our intention to approach the international code of justice in the Hague to make the legal demand within one or more of the international conventions which form the body of international law, but more particularly, the international convention to end racial discrimination, in which the issue of the legacy of native genocide and slavery is addressed,” said Gonsalves, “and the consequences thereof with those who have been responsible and have an obligation to repair the legacy which constitutes consequences of native genocide and African slavery.”

In conclusion, Gonsalves stated, “This is, in a nutshell, what this is all about. Shun off all the adornments, because on this matter, we have to keep our focus very clear, very sharp, and we have to be united and prepared to work. The case for reparations is unanswerably strong.”

State Sen. Bill Perkins and City Councilman Charles Barron presented a special proclamation to Gonsalves for his extraordinary work on international humanitarian economic and social justice, and reparations.

The December 12th Movement delegation to the CARICOM Reparations Regional Conference included Roger Wareham Esq., Omowale Clay, Kamau Brown and Jamal Johnson. Clay gave an overview of the history of the reparations movement in the United States, culminating in the historic United Nations World Conference Against Racism in Durban South Africa in 2001, which declared the transatlantic slave trade and colonialism a crime against humanity; the Millions for Reparations March in Washington, D.C., in 2002; and the subsequent lawsuits against U.S. government and corporations.

“This important first CARICOM Regional Reparations Conference has revitalized our reparations work internationally. We must intensify our work, develop our strategy and tactics, and mobilize our people.” said Clay He ended with their reparations slogan, “They stole us. They sold us. They owe us!”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blackrage; blacks; caribbean; newyork; reparations; slavery; stvincentgrenadines
I wonder how long his meetings were with Putin and Obama?
1 posted on 10/09/2013 8:47:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(“They stole us. They sold us. They owe us!”)

Isn’t he complaining to the wrong people? I think he should be speaking to the African tribal chiefs and muslims.


2 posted on 10/09/2013 8:51:55 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

Almost NO blacks understand that the African Slave trade was run by MUZZIES, who had been trading in blacks for at least FIVE HUNDRED YEARS before the Europeans got involved.


3 posted on 10/09/2013 8:56:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have no problem pitching in for anyone that would like a one way flight to Somalia.

BTW. NONE of my ancestors where in the country prior to the late 1880’s. They where fleeing the oppression of the British I Ireland and the Kaiser in Germany. They had been starved, beaten and taken advantage of since the days of the Roman Empire and decided that a clean break and an ocean voyage was better than a continued existence under the boot of their oppressors.
So please, do us all a favor Mr. Grievance Monger and take a big helping of STFU!

4 posted on 10/09/2013 8:59:48 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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5 posted on 10/09/2013 9:00:22 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“They stole us. They stole us. They owe us.”

Here’s a thought, rather than pay reparations, let’s pay these *ssholes a one-way fare back to Africa, a place they’ve never even seen and from which NO ONE stole them.

Money grubbing, lying, little weasel.


6 posted on 10/09/2013 9:01:23 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Mastador1
Isn’t he complaining to the wrong people?

Keep in mind that most blacks who trace their linage back to the slave days are related to both the slaves and the masters. So if anybody owes them anything, their master bloodline owes it to their slave bloodline. They owe themselves.

7 posted on 10/09/2013 9:03:08 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Mastador1
first, it was tribe against tribe and the winner would sell the surviving losers to the Evil Muslims, who then sold them to the traders. So all we ended up with is the losers.

BTW, [;enty of blacks had black slaves in Africa, and now the pimps here in the US have kidnapped girls as their slaves.

8 posted on 10/09/2013 9:05:52 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: tcrlaf
tcrlaf :"Almost NO blacks understand that the African Slave trade was run by MUZZIES,
who had been trading in blacks for at least FIVE HUNDRED YEARS before the Europeans got involved.

Reparations should be bus-fare back to the country of origin .
No more ! .. No Less !!

9 posted on 10/09/2013 9:07:41 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is not an American black person alive today who was bought or sold into slavery.

It’s time to get over it.


10 posted on 10/09/2013 9:07:50 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: tcrlaf
tcrlaf :"Almost NO blacks understand that the African Slave trade was run by MUZZIES,
who had been trading in blacks for at least FIVE HUNDRED YEARS before the Europeans got involved.

And.. NO ONE WANTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS STILL GOING ON NOW IN BLACK NATIONS !!

11 posted on 10/09/2013 9:10:24 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...work for reparations from the British..., the French..., the Netherlands...”

Didn’t they leave out the Spanish, and the Portuguese, and, of course, the African tribes involved in the slave trade?


12 posted on 10/09/2013 9:14:52 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> “They stole us. They sold us. They owe us!”

Sorry. How can I ever make it up to you? How about a free one-way ticket to Africa for you and about twenty million of your colorful primate friends?

Although neither I nor any of my family was a slaveholder — and neither you nor any of *your* family were slaves — I feel we owe you transportation back to where you fit in.


13 posted on 10/09/2013 9:23:04 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reparations were paid in the form of lives and blood from 1861 to 1865. Half a million white boys died slaughtering each other over whether Blacks should be free or not.


14 posted on 10/09/2013 9:30:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Jim from C-Town
I have no problem pitching in for anyone that would like a one way flight to Somalia.

Ditto. Got plenty of frequent-flyer miles that I won't use up anyway. They have to shred their U.S. passport at the destination, though, before they can claim any luggage.

15 posted on 10/09/2013 9:44:19 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry Ralphie. I never owned a slave and you never picked cotton. KMA you greedy freeloader.


16 posted on 10/09/2013 10:11:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: All

Mr. PM. We is they.


17 posted on 10/09/2013 11:13:35 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Mastador1

In the US, some of the top “reparationists” are Att. Gen. Eric Holder (a student of Reparations leader Prof. Charles Ogletree), N’COBRA; Black Radical Congress; Prof. Obama (covert supporter thru Holder); the New Black Panther Party; Republic of New Africa; etc.


18 posted on 10/10/2013 12:29:23 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; SunkenCiv; ...

And I welcome St. Vincent and the Grenadines to the world stage! LOL.

Hey Mr. Prime Minister, “they” died long before YOU were born. You were never a slave. Are you also demanding money from the decedents of the Arab slavers that probably brought your ancestors over to the country you now run? And the decedents of the local West African leaders who probably traded your ancestors to them for booze? No? Just the British?


19 posted on 10/10/2013 1:03:32 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“They stole us. They sold us. They owe us!”

How 'bout we just give you back?

20 posted on 10/10/2013 2:26:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No mention of “freed us”. Oh well.


21 posted on 10/10/2013 2:33:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mastador1

With a name like Gonsalves he should be speaking to his ancestors headstones.


22 posted on 10/10/2013 3:22:00 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Choice #1, one way ticket to any African nation of your choice.

Choice #2, sit down, shut up, and be grateful my great, great, great, great grandfather fought for your freedom.


23 posted on 10/10/2013 3:27:30 AM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: Impy

“And I welcome St. Vincent and the Grenadines to the world stage! LOL.”

Haiti started this discussion years ago when the country was left bankrupt; they went nowhere because 1) they had been independent since 1894, and 2) they gained independence through a bloody slave revolt. The French sleep easily at night knowing Haiti has reaped what it had sown.


24 posted on 10/10/2013 3:49:44 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Ralphie baby...

In this country, 600,000 white men died as a result of trying to free slaves.

Debt paid.

Move along back to your third world hell hole.


25 posted on 10/10/2013 5:22:00 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; SunkenCiv

Just another parasite with his hand out.


26 posted on 10/10/2013 5:25:20 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; SunkenCiv

I am all for Dems making Reparations part of their party priorities. Why has Obama abandoned them?


27 posted on 10/10/2013 5:41:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reparations? Who is alive today that had anything to do with the slave trade? Mother Africa beckons.


28 posted on 10/10/2013 5:49:17 AM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Smarter, stronger, superior negros defeated the slaves and removed the cancerous growth from their territory.

Reparations should be sought in Africa


29 posted on 10/10/2013 5:52:36 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: sickoflibs

There’s always some stupid white liberals who will agree to it.


30 posted on 10/10/2013 5:54:59 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell me, Ralph, do you really think your life would be better in Africa?


31 posted on 10/10/2013 5:58:47 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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RE :”There’s always some stupid white liberals who will agree to it.

I like the idea of reparations.

Hundreds of years ago there were Hale gunnies working on slave ships taking them away from their African Paradise that they lived in (Ever see those 1930s Tarzan movies as a kid?) and bringing them to the intolerant USA that didn't even have Universal Health Care or gay marriage like all civilized countries did.

So now in the era of Obama enlightenment the Hale decedents, meaning YOU, owe them for all those back wages and entitlements that their slave relatives missed out on.

32 posted on 10/10/2013 6:19:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“They stole us. They sold us. They owe us!”

I'm OK with this, with the following condition: We need to know how much is enough, and when it ends.

We've paid between seven and ten trillion US dollars either directly to descendants of slaves or to facilitate their education, employment, and rehabilitation since 1965. This commitment was made, foolishly, as an open ended one, so that we're not better off (in fact, we're much worse off) than we were in 1965.

We need an end to reparations, not a beginning.

So, this beggar can start by defining what is owed, by whom, and when it gets paid off.

Oh, and, by the way, if the people who owe it are "all whites", under a blood or collective guilt theory, I'm OK with that, too - as long as all blacks are OK with accepting collective guilt for crimes and depredations committed by black individuals, living and dead.

Let's make a deal.

33 posted on 10/10/2013 6:26:07 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Tell me, Ralph, do you really think your life would be better in Africa?...Years ago, before the internet, I read a book about black activist from San Francisco (?) who went to Africa to find his ‘roots’ after graduating from journalism school. Some of his stories were about tribes who wanted his bodyguards to slaughter whole herds of elephants with their M-16’s, observing the natives dumping 55 gallon drums of DDT into the creeks or rivers to kill the fish which they gathered and finally, trying to circumnavigate an area that was having tribal warfare by fording a water falls. They couldn’t get across because the thousands of bodies floating down the river would knock them over the falls. His last observation was he thanked the Lord his ancestors were sold to live in America. He ranted on and on about what he found to be tribalism, corruption and present day slavery. He became a convert.


34 posted on 10/10/2013 6:29:11 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: sickoflibs

“...Hundreds of years ago there were Hale gunnies working on slave ships ...”

No... on one side of the family, IF the Ancestors of Hale were on a ship, they’d have been climbing the ships’ rigging with rifles and shooting the officers on the decks of OTHER ships... with family back home dodging British bullets in the streets of Erin! Somewhere in there, there’s an Austrian component too... probably throwing rocks and sacks of burning horsecrap at members of the Hapsburg royal family at every opportunity.

On the other side, the Ancestors of Hale (”Hale-ski” Cossacks) were riding swift horses across the Steppes, using their large, curved Shaska sabers to make very precise cuts in Bolshevik anatomies and other enemies of the Czar and Czarina and all of Christendom for several centuries...

“...the Hale decedents, meaning YOU, owe them...”
Phooey [spits]. They get bupkis from me...


35 posted on 10/10/2013 6:56:12 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
RE “;...the Hale decedents, meaning YOU, owe them...”
Phooey [spits]. They get bupkis from me...”

Rev Al says that all NRA members are racist because so many ‘minorities’ get shot by guns.

36 posted on 10/10/2013 7:47:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: NFHale; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; SunkenCiv

“Just another parasite with his hand out.”

That pretty such summarizes an entire segment of the population...and we half of one as POTUS.

One FReeper refers to them as “unassimilated contraband” and he’s 100% right.


37 posted on 10/10/2013 8:37:07 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: sickoflibs

But...but.. I CAN’T be a “racist”... ALL of my guns are Black...


38 posted on 10/10/2013 8:42:27 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Guns don’t kill people, black guns kill people! LOL.


39 posted on 10/11/2013 8:33:51 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: kearnyirish2

Well I can hardly blame the Haitians for violently throwing off their shackles. But boy oh boy that’s been one of the worst run countries in the world for it’s entire history, even compared to most of Africa.


40 posted on 10/11/2013 8:39:05 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: sickoflibs

“...Rev Al says that all NRA members are racist because so many ‘minorities’ get shot by guns. ..”

Maybe... just maaaaaayyyybe... if those same “minorities” weren’t out there breaking into peoples’ homes, carjacking innocent folks, assaulting elderly folks, playing “White Girl Bleed A Lot” and “The Knockout Game”, holding up convenience stores, etc., ... just MAYBE they wouldn’t wind up getting shot...

I dunno... I guess logic is “rayyyycist” now too...


41 posted on 10/11/2013 8:40:30 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Impy

Haiti was a beacon of stability under dictatorships; it has been all downhill since they tossed them. They had been a big tourist draw; now they are pariahs.

They sought reparations because when a French fleet was sent to suppress the revolt they were bought off with compensation for French landowners & companies (200+ years ago); now Haiti wants that money back (+ interest and pain/suffering, I guess).


42 posted on 10/11/2013 7:24:40 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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