Skip to comments.Paul Ryan Wants Budget Conference (GOP caves on shutdown?)
Posted on 10/10/2013 9:31:30 AM PDT by Alter Kaker
Updated 12:28 p.m. | House Budget Chairman Paul D. Ryan, R-Wis., told reporters Thursday morning that he intends to go to conference on the budget, signaling the end to one of the years greatest impasses between the two parties and chambers.
Were gonna start negotiations, Ryan said. I intend to go to conference.
I think when Leader Pelosi said that they would remove all the motions to instruct, that was a good-faith effort to get serious negotiations going, he continued. We intend to go to conference on that. As you know, a budget resolution is not sufficient to do all that we need to do, but its a step in the right direction.
Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., flanked by other members of Democratic leadership, announced Oct. 5 that her party was prepared to forfeit its right to offer motions to instruct should Republicans name conferees to merge the House and Senate budgets. That removed the threat of forcing Republicans having to take numerous politically difficult but nonbinding votes.
Speaker John A. Boehner made mention of a budget conference as part of an overall offer to President Barack Obama that would extend the debt ceiling for six weeks but not reopen the government.
What were going to do is offer the president the ability to move a temporary increase in the debt ceiling [and] an agreement to go to conference on the budget for his willingness to sit down and discuss with us a way forward to reopen the government and start to deal with Americas pressing problems, the Ohio Republican said.
Senate Democrats have held the position that both the debt ceiling and the current government shutdown must be addressed before moving into broader negotiations on the top-line spending levels for fiscal 2014 and other budgetary changes.
We think the only way out of this cycle of constant crises is for the two sides to work together, make some compromises, and get to a fair and responsible long term deal, Senate Budget Chairwoman Patty Murray said Wednesday. But it just doesnt make sense to do that while families and communities are being hurt by this government shutdown and while the threat of a default hangs over our head.
The Washington Democrat made the comments on the Senate floor while making yet another request for a budget conference committee upon action to avert a default and get the government funded.
We will sit down and negotiate over anything Republicans want, and we pledge to work as hard as we can, for as long as it takes until we get a fair long-term budget deal to end these constant crises. But first, this current crisis needs to end and the threat of the next one needs to be lifted, Murray said. Republicans dont need a hostage, there are plenty of things Democrats want out of a long term deal that we are very interested in making some compromises for.
THEY’D BETTER NOT CAVE ON OBAMACARE!
Yes, that is the same guy. I wan't all that certain he was really a conservative, but I did think he was opposed to Obama's "fundamental transformation." The good news is that I am no longer deceived... which I suppose is also the bad news. Oh, well... Bud Day thought John McCain wasn't unworthy of elected office.
We're all wrong now and then.
Exactly. FWIW, call/tweet/FB/email Lyin Ryan...it can’t hurt.
“In short, they’re now using Ryan to do their dirty work on Obamacrae/debt ceiling just like McCain-Schumer used Rubio to do theirs on immigration.”
Yes, I know. I think that Paul Ryan’s conservative credentials were completely lost when he began working on immigration reform.
In that case, what options does the House GOP have in continuing this fight? If what you said is true, I am still not sure what they can do about it.
Excellent post. Thank you.
That's what this is. You honestly think an Obamacare repeal is going to come out of a Senate conference committee?
To be fair, Ryan did not get beat on content in that debate. He only ran into trouble because of his lack of experience on political debates at that level and dealing with the hardline leftist style of debating. So it is hard to count that too much against him.
But yes, this is gonna be a serious problem for him unless he can figure out how a solution that will involve actual conservatives achieving the goals they started out with in this fight.
What do you think Paul Ryan should be doing right about now? What should his course of action be in your personal opinion?
Yes, that and his dismal debate with Biden.
Nice try w/Alinsky playbook, newbie.
He is dead to me.
Exactly. The house of representatives consist of the citizen’s personal representative. Senators and the President really don’t reflect the will of the people, due to the nature of their elections. The theme that the “Republicans” lost is false. It’s at best debatable, in the sense that a majority of people chose, as their personal representative in DC, a representative running against ObamaCare. This is the correct move, on every level.
As you point out, it is the Representatives’ job to control the purse-strings, and it is their job to represent the people. The “surrender monkeys” are wrong at every level — strategically, politically, ethically, and constitutionally.
Now is the time to make what may be a last stand. The Democrats recognize the stakes involved, and are willing to pursue a scorched earth policy to get it. At stake is the country — either the one that has been the shining city on the hill for over 200 years, or the fundamentally transformed one envisioned by a very malevolent left.
The article doesn’t say anything about a Continuing resolution or the debt ceiling at all. It simply talks about negotiations on a budget.
A lot of knee jerking going on in this thread
What has the Chicago Democrat thugs dug up on Ryan? If they can destroy Gen. Petraeus with his adulterous affair and force Chief Justice Roberts to vote for the blatantly unconstitutional Obama Care law by reportedly questioning the legality of his adopted children, they certainly can blackmail GOP congressmen.
This is the essence of corruption.
Huh? What do you think the Continuing Resolution is? It's a BUDGET resolution.