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Report: Flight to Orlando used as terrorist practice run
Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/10/2013 | Joe Kelley

Posted on 10/10/2013 9:54:21 AM PDT by Velveeta

Orlando, Fla. — Terrorists are in the midst of practice runs in preparations for an attack on U.S. airlines.

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The pilots say the most recent dry-run occurred on Flight 1880 on September 2. The flight left Reagan National Airport in Washington D.C. and headed to Orlando International. Crew members say that shortly after takeoff, a group of four "Middle Eastern" men caused a commotion......continues

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bojinka; dryrun; dryruns; flight1880; planes; probe; terrorists
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Orlando, Fla. — Terrorists are in the midst of practice runs in preparations for an attack on U.S. airlines.

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The pilots say the most recent dry-run occurred on Flight 1880 on September 2. The flight left Reagan National Airport in Washington D.C. and headed to Orlando International. Crew members say that shortly after takeoff, a group of four "Middle Eastern" men caused a commotion......continues

1 posted on 10/10/2013 9:54:21 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: LucyT; MestaMachine

TM Ping


2 posted on 10/10/2013 9:55:00 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: All

Link to Pilot’s Association Memo:
http://www.wtsp.com/assetpool/documents/131008021206_security%20memo.pdf


3 posted on 10/10/2013 9:56:31 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

this could be bad

maybe the trusted traveler program for Saudi’s and the allowing box cutters onboard should be reviewed??


4 posted on 10/10/2013 9:57:34 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Velveeta

Inevitably, some day soon, a plane is going to land with some dead Muslims aboard.

Beaten to death by their fellow passengers.


5 posted on 10/10/2013 9:58:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Velveeta

No worries...I’m sure TSA was on top of this.


6 posted on 10/10/2013 9:59:55 AM PDT by moovova
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To: GeronL

Looks like Bush failed to heed the intelligence reports again. All of those vacations in Crawford.


7 posted on 10/10/2013 10:00:19 AM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: Velveeta

If I was on that flight the arabs would have sat down. I would have seen to it. I would have ended up on a no fly list and the arabs wouldn’t but it would have been worth it.


8 posted on 10/10/2013 10:00:43 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: Velveeta

The other passengers won’t stand by in any future efforts. I’ve been on flights where people acted up. It never progressed to the point of a fight but numerous men were prepared to step in if needed.


9 posted on 10/10/2013 10:01:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Velveeta

Any effort to track these people after the plane landed in Orlando?


10 posted on 10/10/2013 10:03:16 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Velveeta
Impossible!

Obama said the War on Terror is over. Mission Accomplished!

11 posted on 10/10/2013 10:05:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: shankbear

lol


12 posted on 10/10/2013 10:05:24 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Cowboy Bob

I would hope so. I’m trying to find additional information.

Can’t post too much of the article detail because it’s a Gannet publication. Seems WTSP was first to obtain this memo.

Please do take a look at this report:

Link to Pilot’s Association Memo:
http://www.wtsp.com/assetpool/documents/131008021206_security%20memo.pdf

There was a second incident on the same flight number by a group of burkha-clad women.


13 posted on 10/10/2013 10:09:21 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

In response, the DHS released 10,000 more felons,
and the DO”J” weaponized another 1000 narcoterrorists,
and Obama transferring more MANPADs and sarin to al Qaeda.

NO ONE IN DC cares
— except to coverup every connection
and lead, just like in Boston.


14 posted on 10/10/2013 10:10:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: GeronL

Maybe the loosening up of the restrictions is a way to “smoke out” the terrorists? I would like to think so. Although, this administration seems to be hell-bent on calling out members of the Tea Party, faithful Catholics, Evangelicals, Libertarians, etc.. So I am afraid they are not savvy enough to try to expose these folks through trickery. They are more likely to encourage challenges to our system.

The current POTUS does not seem to worry about Muslims burning and murdering Christians and their churches; or lobbing missiles into Israel.


15 posted on 10/10/2013 10:10:59 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Velveeta

arabs on CRACK?


16 posted on 10/10/2013 10:11:26 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Cowboy Bob

They cannot be further scrutinized. That is considered to be racial profiling. Either it was a dry run or they are gunning for a $$settlement. They know how to finance their next terror activities.


17 posted on 10/10/2013 10:14:01 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Those blankets on board the airplane might come in handy.


18 posted on 10/10/2013 10:16:05 AM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Velveeta

If: Slimy Muzzie(s) on board
Then: Sky marshals packing heat on board.

With porkfat coated bullets.


19 posted on 10/10/2013 10:16:07 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Velveeta

Sounds more like stirring up the folks so they complain, and then the jihadis sue for discrimination, and use the money to fund jihad.


20 posted on 10/10/2013 10:16:12 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: driftdiver

it does not sound like any passengers stepped in during this incident... i feel sick... i always only fly Southwest... and i fly out of into smaller airports... but i just booked a flight from San Fran to Charlotte, NC on US Airways... for this Sunday... i want to cancel...


21 posted on 10/10/2013 10:16:50 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Velveeta
The witnesses claim one of the men ran from his seat in coach, toward the flight deck door. He made a hard left and entered the forward bathroom "for a considerable length of time."

Ya just don't want to interfere with a man who has the screaming-green-apple-trots when he is running to the bathroom.

22 posted on 10/10/2013 10:20:08 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: latina4dubya
but i just booked a flight from San Fran to Charlotte, NC on US Airways... for this Sunday... i want to cancel...

Don't cancel. Odds are with you for a safe flight. Just pick another departure airport. SF is the WORST airport to travel through. You WILL be delayed.

23 posted on 10/10/2013 10:22:05 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Velveeta

ping


24 posted on 10/10/2013 10:25:22 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Velveeta

Any dry run should have the pilot immediately put that plane down at the nearest airfield with the National Guard / Cops / NRA called out.

Frog march the jerks off the plane and make them disappear down a rat hole. The rack should be back in style for these guys.


25 posted on 10/10/2013 10:27:47 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("So the minimum plan for obamacare is 100 bucks a month I like you Obama but nigga I'm broke")
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To: Velveeta

Thanks for posting this, Vel. I just flew in and out of Reagan last week. Security seemed a bit lax to me. It was stricter here in Rapid City.


26 posted on 10/10/2013 10:29:46 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: GeronL

“allowing box cutters onboard”

TSA caved to the idiot flight attendant union and never changed the rule to allow small knives.


27 posted on 10/10/2013 10:30:05 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

there is no other one... i always fly out of San Jose, which is nice and small, but also International... however, there were no affordable flights from SJ to Fayetteville, NC... normally i fly into Raleigh Durham, but i didn’t have anyone who could pick me up (it’s an hour and 20 from Fayetteville)... next time i won’t care... i am flying Southwest out of Raleigh to SJ and SJ to Raleigh... i don’t care how much it costs... and i will find a ride somehow...


28 posted on 10/10/2013 10:32:00 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: driftdiver

In 2002 I was booked on a flight from DC to New Orleans the day the first post-9/11 Super Bowl was to be played there. I was concerned till I got on the plane and saw a crowd of “Good Ole Boys” from LA, heading home from a Mardi Gras ball. There was no way that group would have let anyone take control of that flight.


29 posted on 10/10/2013 10:33:46 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: green iguana

lol

probably a good thing


30 posted on 10/10/2013 10:37:41 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: driftdiver
The other passengers won’t stand by in any future efforts. I’ve been on flights where people acted up. It never progressed to the point of a fight but numerous men were prepared to step in if needed.

Isn't there a more gender neutral way of saying that?

31 posted on 10/10/2013 10:37:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Velveeta

Everyone carry ‘bacon’. Rub on hands. Spread around.

Or at least make them think you have it. Keep them guessing.

Seems like that is the only ‘weapon’ we have, and it’s not even a weapon.


32 posted on 10/10/2013 10:39:04 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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I Witnessed Terrorist ‘Dry Run’ on US Airways Flight 2095 on 9/9/2013 Out of Newark as Memo Warns About Terrorist ‘Dry-Runs’ on Airplanes , See Photos.

On September 9th, 2013 I was on US Airways Flight 2095 out of Newark Headed to Sarasota Fl with a stop in Charlotte NC. I was in seat 6B, seated directly in front of me were two Arab males, they were about 22 years old and 26 years old, the one seated to my left spent the whole time of the flight, about 1 hour and 15 minutes, making diagrams of the cabin, making note of where the drink cart was kept and notes on the activity of the flight attendants. The flight attendants (all women) appeared to be alerted about the two Arab males and kept close tabs on them. The Two Arab males spoke no English during the flight, they both had on NY Yankee baseball caps and wore black t-shirts and jeans and the older Arab male made frequent trips to the bathroom. Upon arrival in Charlotte the Two Arab males made a quick departure and I followed then as they headed for their connecting flight which appeared to be to Fort Lauderdale Fl.

Bill Warner Private Investigator Sarasota Fl
http://cheatersflorida.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/i-witnessed-terrorist-dry-run-on-us-airways-flight-2095-on-992013-out-of-newark-as-memo-warns-about-terrorist-dry-runs-on-airplanes-see-photos/


33 posted on 10/10/2013 10:39:26 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: GeronL

There is NO reasonable explanation for box cutters on a plane!


34 posted on 10/10/2013 10:41:46 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Moonman62

No


35 posted on 10/10/2013 10:42:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GeronL

I was actually looking forward to being able to legally bring my knife on the plane again...


36 posted on 10/10/2013 10:43:20 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: I want the USA back
Sounds more like stirring up the folks so they complain, and then the jihadis sue for discrimination, and use the money to fund jihad.

Yep. The notion that this is a "dry run" for an actual attack is ridiculous, for at least two reasons:

1. The terrorists know, just like everybody else, that the 9-11 attack depended to passenger inaction (which was a rational response when hijacking meant "some clown wants a soapbox and a free ride to Cuba"). Thus, it's a trick that only works once.

2. Attempts to probe defenses would be done much more quietly, to avoid letting defenders know that you're doing it.


37 posted on 10/10/2013 10:43:53 AM PDT by shego
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To: Velveeta
the older Arab male made frequent trips to the bathroom

An older guy making frequent trips to the bathroom is suspicious?

Ever hear of something called a "prostate gland"?

38 posted on 10/10/2013 10:43:53 AM PDT by shego
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To: Velveeta

I’m suprised there wasn’t a practice terrorist beatdown by the passengers.


39 posted on 10/10/2013 10:45:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: latina4dubya

I fly all the time, and while having the guy puke on me last night was quite special, one thing I don’t worry about is someone hijacking the plane.

The cockpit doors will slow someone down long enough for the passengers to do something. They might knife someone but they aren’t getting into the cockpit.

Oh and they could probably easily sneak weapons or a bomb on the plane but I didn’t want to post that because the NSA is watching. FUNSA go catch a terrorist.


40 posted on 10/10/2013 10:46:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Moonman62
Isn't there a more gender neutral way of saying that?

That's just what the men who would not step in are- gender neutral!

41 posted on 10/10/2013 10:47:08 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: green iguana

SO you were that guy!

Now, we will never be able to do a pivotal fight scene from “Grease” on board an airliner again....


42 posted on 10/10/2013 10:47:20 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Hi RR! Thanks for the input.

BTW, do you recall the name of the woman (Ann something-or-other) who used to report on these types of ME flight incidents? It’s on the tip of my tongue, but I’m drawing a blank on her name.


43 posted on 10/10/2013 10:52:40 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: RadiationRomeo

Let’s roll!!


44 posted on 10/10/2013 10:52:42 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Diogenesis

“Remove your governments, they don’t care about you. You think David Cameron is gonna get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? Do you think politicians are going to die? No, it’s going to be the average guy, like you and your children.”

Michael Adebolajo


45 posted on 10/10/2013 10:53:26 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Velveeta

You know, if *I* was an islamic terrorist, I would commit THIS act of terror: I would leave America all alone. After all, she is destroying herself very nicely.


46 posted on 10/10/2013 10:54:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Velveeta

We keep looking at our country from our point of view. You have to look at our country from the enemy’s point of view. What do you see when you look from that point of view?


47 posted on 10/10/2013 10:59:14 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: shego

Does an enlarged prostate gland cause one to draw diagrams of the plane’s cabin and take notes on the activity flight attendants?


48 posted on 10/10/2013 11:08:07 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: forgotten man

Stewie Griffin said his airline pillow smelled like farts. I hate to think what a blanket smells like.

Seriously, I can’t stand the thought of putting my head on an airplane pillow or blanket. I can’t stand the thought of putting my butt on an airplane seat. It’s all filthy. That’s just one of the reasons I’ll never fly again.


49 posted on 10/10/2013 11:08:43 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Lazamataz

So true.


50 posted on 10/10/2013 11:09:57 AM PDT by Velveeta
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