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A National Disgrace:Why no outpouring from our civil libertarians about the shooting death of Carey?
American Spectator ^ | 10.10.13 | R. EMMETT TYRRELL, JR.

Posted on 10/10/2013 10:57:10 AM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 10/10/2013 11:11:23 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Why no outpouring from our civil libertarians about the shooting death of Miriam Carey?

WASHINGTON ó I am just wondering whether Miriam Carey, the mentally ill mother who drove her black Infiniti down Pennsylvania Avenue after she rammed a White House barricade, was read her Miranda rights before she was shot dead in a fusillade of gunfire by a gang of well-armed police who surrounded her car at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue. The information has not been released, though as I write almost a week has passed since the lethal event. Why could not those crack shots have aimed at her carís tires? Then they could have waited for her next move. It looks to me like they were shooting at the side of the car about halfway up the door. They apparently wanted to take no chances.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; miriamcarey; moronwithbadge; warriorcops

1 posted on 10/10/2013 10:57:10 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

R. Emmett Tyrell ping for later


2 posted on 10/10/2013 11:10:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: neverdem

I guess I’m just starting to realize how the acceptance of brutal police work coincides with an increase of governmental dependence. You can’t get away with the former without the latter. Most boot lickers are go along to get along - fewer are truly in favor of the statism, but they exist. Heck, they’re right here on the FR.

People were right to fear the formation of police forces.


3 posted on 10/10/2013 11:10:54 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

i’m more afraid of the cops than the crooks.


4 posted on 10/10/2013 11:15:13 AM PDT by old gringo
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To: neverdem

Tensions were high because she was using her car as a weapon, but I do question the use of deadly force. If this would have occurred outside Washington DC (White House and Capital) there would be criticism of police force. NOT to mention the lady was African American so one can image the race card. I guess when the King and his Lords are threatened, the state run press does not question the police.


5 posted on 10/10/2013 11:15:45 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: andyk

The clients of the federal government basically have no problem with exercise of state power. They know it is, or will soon be, there for their direct benefit.


6 posted on 10/10/2013 11:15:50 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: neverdem

indicative of surrender


7 posted on 10/10/2013 11:16:16 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: neverdem
A National Disgrace:Why no outpouring from our civil libertarians about the shooting death of Carey?

This story disappeared from the news at the speed of light, and the collective memories wiped clean.


8 posted on 10/10/2013 11:18:57 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: old gringo

Me too.


9 posted on 10/10/2013 11:23:07 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: neverdem

ACLU & NOW don’t care what happens to any Obama victim. That would be un-PC to the max.

They don’t care what happens to female victims of Islam, either. Their silence is both deafening & hypocritical.


10 posted on 10/10/2013 11:28:41 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: 11th Commandment
Tensions were high because she was using her car as a weapon, but I do question the use of deadly force. If this would have occurred outside Washington DC (White House and Capital) there would be criticism of police force. NOT to mention the lady was African American so one can image the race card. I guess when the King and his Lords are threatened, the state run press does not question the police.

I tend to be a hardcore libertarian and I question the use of force. I do agree that she did use her car as a weapon so I would have to ask the police if they tried other measures first or they just shot here. Like you, I wonder where Al Sharpton is on this one, same with Jessie Jackson, I think even they would have some grounds of legitimacy here, not the race issue but the possibility of excessive force. Yet, they are silent.
11 posted on 10/10/2013 11:35:19 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (L.C. Greenwood - Pittsburgh Steeler - RIP (1946-2013))
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To: neverdem

The answer should be obvious.

There are no political points to be made here.

The DC police killed a Black woman. DC is controlled by democrats. DC police did it to ‘protect’ the president, a democrat. Miriam Carey has been sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.

If the president were Republican, the media would have handled it differently. They would be promoting the mantra “Bush had a Black woman killed.” “Bush is a racist.” Etc.


12 posted on 10/10/2013 11:40:26 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: neverdem

Key question: are the ROE in Afghanistan more restrictive than in DC?


13 posted on 10/10/2013 11:45:01 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: 11th Commandment

If this had happened outside Washington DC, Barack Obama would said: “The police acted stupidly”.


14 posted on 10/10/2013 12:02:03 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Riflema

I think the answer to that question is obvious.


15 posted on 10/10/2013 12:03:13 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: 11th Commandment

That is true, a car can be used as a weapon, which includes bombs.


16 posted on 10/10/2013 12:05:50 PM PDT by Biggirl (¬ďGo, do not be afraid, and serve¬Ē-Pope Francis)
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To: neverdem

I’ll guess several of the police “assassins” were also Black.


17 posted on 10/10/2013 12:07:50 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: neverdem

Better yet. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?


18 posted on 10/10/2013 12:23:40 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: neverdem

Good question, the poor woman was unarmed.


19 posted on 10/10/2013 12:33:09 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: tennmountainman

They are supporting Barry.


20 posted on 10/10/2013 12:35:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: neverdem

They went nutso over the Trayvonne self defense shooting, but they’re OK with this???

You could get all the Conceal Carry practitioners in Florida around that woman’s car and they would have held their fire.


21 posted on 10/10/2013 12:38:51 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: neverdem

Paging Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and Je$$ie HyJack$on.

The DC police shot and killed an unarmed black women, and we haven’t heard a damn thing from any of you, you three useless/worthless racists.


22 posted on 10/10/2013 12:49:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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To: WayneS

Which tells us all we need to know about the regime’s priorities.


23 posted on 10/10/2013 1:00:59 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: neverdem

Chick was a whack job wielding a 2,500 pound weapon.

Sorry she was out of her mind.


24 posted on 10/10/2013 1:04:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: neverdem
I am just wondering whether Miriam Carey, the unarmed mentally ill mother who drove her black Infiniti down Pennsylvania Avenue after she rammed a White House barricade, was read her Miranda rights before she was shot dead in a fusillade of gunfire by a gang of well-armed police who surrounded her car at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Keep repeating unarmed, as the MSM did for St. Trayvon of Skittles.

25 posted on 10/10/2013 1:46:16 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: old gringo; andyk
i’m more afraid of the cops than the crooks.

Me too. Too many don't seem to give a crap whether it's the war on guns to the war on some drugs to reckless driving.

Who Cares About Miriam Carey? The epidemic of police violence in America is largely ignored

26 posted on 10/10/2013 1:48:06 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem
Bttt.

5.56mm

27 posted on 10/10/2013 1:50:46 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: fortheDeclaration

There is something very very strange about this situation/matter. The woman was obviously deranged. She yelled out that in her head she had to speak with Obama. Someone gave the cops an order to dispose of the woman instead of merely taking her into custody. Apparently she got blocked in and had no other lethal weapons once the car was blocked. She was killed with a fusillade of shots. There has been no public presence to explain why such fatal action was necessary or taken. There has been little if any public disclosure of the lady and her background beyond her occupation. The entire incident has been taken off the public radar. It seems to me that at the least there is something more to looking at why this lady would have had such a mental fixation on seeing Obama. Are all Presidents going to be in danger of such deranged persons. Reagan was but his shooter was captured alive.


28 posted on 10/10/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Riflema
Key question: are the ROE in Afghanistan more restrictive than in DC?

Key (rhetorical) question: are the ROE in Afghanistan more restrictive than in DC? (my edit)

I think that's patently obvious. However, straight from my boy fresh outa the sandbox, "You GOTTA be F*****G kidding me...".

My (rhetorical) question: Where's Al Sharpton? (gag/sarc)

29 posted on 10/10/2013 1:54:58 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: neverdem

I have questions of my own, more specific, but perhaps more telling; more likely to generate factual answers, surely, and perhaps more questions.

Was Ms Carrey shot while in her car, or after she exited it?

We have been told that she had her passport and some foreign currency in a locked box in her car. What foreign country was the money from, and how much did she have?


30 posted on 10/10/2013 2:15:19 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: VietVet

Jessie?
Sharpie?

Where are you guys?

This woman was BLACK !!


31 posted on 10/10/2013 2:16:30 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: old gringo

i’m more afraid of the cops than the crooks”

I’ll second that emotion.


32 posted on 10/10/2013 3:39:00 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Biggirl

High speed chases are frequent occurrences in some cities. They even had hour-long TV series devoted entirely to real-life chases. There were extremely reckless and dangerous cases where criminals drove on the wrong side of the freeway for miles with police hot in pursuit; or in city streets with everything scrambling to get out of the way. And some reckless driving cases were caused by medical reasons.

Regardless, it is extremely rare for police to open fire on any of the suspects, especially when the chase is already over and the person refused to get out of the car. There are many options available to the authorities during the ensuing standoff.

In this case, if they were truly concerned a bomb could be involved (which I very much doubt based on their actions), they would have sealed off the perimeter, retreated to a safe distance and maybe contacted her relatives and let them approach her, etc. Besides, since when is a mere suspicion of a bomb enough justification to kill?

It is obvious they never wanted it to end peacefully and the order to kill had come from the top, hence the multiple rounds of bullets that came quickly.

Even if you are not bothered by the circumstances of this case, I hope you at least realize the blatant hypocrisies of the usual suspects and the complete silence of the media when you speak out in support of the police’ actions.


33 posted on 10/10/2013 4:23:47 PM PDT by sun7
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To: neverdem
Why could not those crack shots have aimed at her car’s tires? Then they could have waited for her next move. It looks to me like they were shooting at the side of the car about halfway up the door. They apparently wanted to take no chances.

All it takes is for one cop to open fire, and the rest will act like lemmings. Case in point. Where I live, three cops respond to a domestic disturbance. They are told the man has a gun and a woman and two children are inside.

The man inside the house answers the door, opens it part ways, and after an argument with the police shuts the door. The police try to force the door back open, but one of the cops at the door shoots his partner through the hip with his PATROL RIFLE (we call them AR 15S).

The third cop, hearing a shot, empties his pistol into the house.

No defined target, just shoots wildly into the house where there are innocent children and a woman.

There are a lot of these hair triggered cowardly cowboys out there.

34 posted on 10/10/2013 5:39:03 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: Vendome

Chick was exiting said vehicle unarmed when she was gunned down. With a baby inside. She didn’t fire a shot. The Barney Fifes surrounding her car fired several.


35 posted on 10/10/2013 7:52:22 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Maybe I pulled the trigger too quick on this one.

Didn’t know that.


36 posted on 10/10/2013 11:43:33 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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