Skip to comments.EXCLUSIVE: Just 51,000 people completed Obamacare applications during the website's first week..
Posted on 10/10/2013 1:59:33 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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Notice that it is only AFTER you enter all your financial information that the information about price is available to you.
The applicant was looking for a cheaper family plan possibly offered by ACA as they were already paying $393 per month for current health care.
Through ACA / OBummerCare the cheapest family program was still going to cost arround $1400 per month as they had prior disability (Diabetis).
Most recently , I heard that ACA cost will also be determined by a credit check to determine worthiness and income verification,
although I have no confirmation. I have no first hand information about the program.
Is this website only or paper applications? I have a feeling many of the Obamacare “winners” don’t have or know how to use a computer.
*Formerly and laughably once referred to as the American News Media.
When they say that they need 7 million to stay afloat, what they really mean are 7 million healthy young males who don't plan on going to the doctor after they sign up and fork over their cash.
Most people, who will admit it have three boxes, IN, OUT and TOO HARD. Stuff moves briskly from the IN box to the OUT box but if it goes to the TOO HARD box it usually eventually goes to the trash can.
People look at obamacare and will deem it just not worth the trouble. TOO HARD, not worth the effort or threat.
Just 51,000 people completed Obamacare applications during the websites first week
Completed applications doesn’t mean “has purchased and paid for insurance”. By no means does this mean very many of them will actually follow through and BUY and PAY for ObammerKare! Besides, you can almost count on all who do ultimately buy will be almost completely subsidized (by the taxpayers of course) and/or are exceeding ill.
I guarantee you before Obama's term is out, America will place a news-firewall around itself to keep out those pesky facts.
Wanna bet against me?
You mean even after California revised its numbers from 7 Million to 645,000, they were still lying?
Between now and the midterm elections, the HHS won’t get anywhere remotely close to the number of approved applications they need for 0bamacare to reach their MINIMUM target number of 7,000,000. That would be nearly 135k approved applicants per WEEK and that ain’t gonna happen.
That’s what I heard also. Not gonna happen.
I read that Credit score comes into play as well.. Good luck with that, HHS!
not going to happen
6 weeks of debt ceiling extension may be enough time to flush this turd.
“Who in their right mind would give out all that personal info online even if the site was.secure. This is nuts”
Not sure if you know this (and I don’t agree with it)...but the way the enrollment process is structure, you have to give your personal info including bank acct info BEFORE you are given a quote or insurance option by the “exchange” site.
Isn’t that lovely?
"Just 51,000 people completed Obamacare applications during the first week the Healthcare.gov website was online"
There is reasonably good data that says that CA had 28,000 "completed applications" and NY had 40,000 as of a few days ago. So I'm not sure where the 51,000 number comes from.
One possibility is that it represents the applications processed for just the Federal Exchange System which covers 14 states. New York and California and 35 other states have their own State run Exchange Systems.
Another point: Completed Applications do not equal Enrollments despite the common assumption that they do. In the long run many and perhaps most of those who complete their applications and are found to be qualified will sign up. But many, many of these will be pushed off to Medicaid.
At this point there is very little data on actual enrollments. Here is what I have found so far:
This projects to a total Obamacare Enrollment of less than 500,000 in 6 months using an Excel model that I built. So to get to the 7,000,000 that Obama thinks he needs to have a viable system the Obamacare sign-ups have to increase by well over a factor of 10 if they are going to make it.
Time will tell on that.
Obama's goal is to get just 7,000,000 people to sign up. That's something around 2% of the American population. We are in the middle of this mess in order to get one person in 50 to buy something that most don't want unless it is free.
What a waste.
The ones signing up are the ones who will find Obamacare cheaper than the alternatives. This will result in Obamacare experiencing skyrocketing costs.
The Republicans need to hold the line as all the ugliness of Obamacare comes to light.
“Most recently , I heard that ACA cost will also be determined by a credit check to determine worthiness and income verification,
although I have no confirmation. I have no first hand information about the program. “
The credit score assertion was made by an exchange “navigator” online at clickOrlando....her name is Anne Packham and get this,,,one day after her report that credit scores are used to determine rates,,,BOOOM!!!!!!!
She is know saying she made a “mistake”,,,and walking it back...
Yep, info you can trust right? Guess the bad press did her in.
This blows my mind. I get on FB and post article after article about how bad the ACF is and few even seem to care. Everything is just strange and I sometimes wonder if I did not die somewhere along the line as the world around seems to be turning into Hell.
Nope !! The truth did her in !!
"If you want to make a Conservative angry, tell him a lie.
If you want to make a Liberal angry, tell him the truth." - Rush Limbaugh
This is so MEGA great. ha ha ha.
They won't talk about anything in a un-PC manner. Well, very few will.
When gas first started to get very high. I would make it a point to go into the office and announce, "Holy, $75 to fill up my tank" "Wow, gas is crazy" "This can't keep going on like this"...I wouldn't say anything overtly political but I was trying to get some reactions. Nothing. Not a peep. Ever.
I do the same thing when at the grocery store, I try and get some reaction about food prices--not a peep.
It just dawned on me. The rollout of Obamacare could not have been more of a disaster if they tried. Literally. It’s becoming more and more obvious that while Obama wanted the ACA rammed through so there would be “something” on the books, it was never meant to be successful. This is merely a stepping stone to a “single payer” option. They WANT “Obamacare” to be fraught with problems so they can offer and ram through the “fix” - SINGLE PAYER.
Exclusive? I’ll bet this story was shopped out to the state run media in the US and they spiked the bad news.
Thanks for your research and the numbers you provided.
51,000 people completed the ObamaCare applications?
That’s total Bull-loney. Not sure when the Brits decided to go into the tank for Obama, but based on EVERY single source from this side of the pond - there is no way 51,000 people could get past that FUBO excuse of a website and get enrolled by now.
That is absurd.
Now we know why they need to raise the debt ceiling by another trillion.
Ummm... 51,000 ACCOUNTS CREATED??? or did these people actually SELECT AND QUALIFY for a plan???
There’s a big difference.
Does this also includes via paper and phone enrollees ?
In order to apply for "Mengele-Care , it has to be done online at the unsecured website (no https//).
'Navigators' are hired folk (with no criminal background checks) who will take your written information, and they will post it later online at the website.
Or , you can do it yourself at the website .
Health and Human Services constantly reminds 'Navigators'to not leave written confidential information laying arround for fear of theft.
Navigators will be making approximately $15 - $28 per hour , and come from unions , community action agencies, ACORN, and contracted individuals.
Yeah , like there will be no identity theft !!
And nobody watching the 'Navigators ' to see how they handle the confidential information ?
And as though it was a totally secured website , and perhaps no hackers are electronicly camped out to see what information they can snatch !
This is a FUBAR waiting to happen.
What IDENTITY THEFT , the government will assure that everybodys information will be accessable worldwide, and we will all die BROKE !
Count on it !!
at $634 million it only cost $102k per person to sign up.
When the goal is government authority over We the People, numeric results are a mere distraction.
There are 51,000 data sets added to NSA’s Snoopfile database and His Arrogance’s political database.
“The cost is a driver yes, but I believe a total FEAR of ones personal data getting compromised is just as strong.”
Yes, that’s mine.
Counting dead people?
Washington State is over 10x that even if you don't count Expanded Medicaid. From a Tuesday NBC article:
Washington state said 9,452 people have fully enrolled in coverage set to begin Jan. 1. Most of them, about 8,500, are going to be covered by Medicaid, the government insurance program for low-income people, with the remaining 916 covered by health plans sold by private insurers through the online state marketplace.
Another 10,000 people have completed applications for coverage from private health insurers through the exchange but have not yet paid for it. Exchange officials said they believe that many, if not all, of those people are waiting until December to make their initial premium payments, as Dec. 15 is the deadline for payment receipt for coverage to begin Jan. 1.
"The number of applications we've received is a strong start to our six-month open enrollment period," said Richard Onizuka, CEO for the Washington Health Benefit Exchange. "While we've seen a high level of initial interest, we know that individuals will continue to shop and wait to purchase a health plan until much closer to the effective start of coverage on Jan. 1, 2014."
With OBamaCare there wont be any Identity worth stealing because we will all be BROKE !
THe ObamamCare " Winners" will use 'Navagators'
and in two years , you won't have to worry about computers because you wont be able to afford one
I think you're right. But I also think they wanted obamacare to be a slow, managed failure.
In fact, it's turning out to be a sudden, spectacular failure, which undermines confidence in obama and the dems. The republicans need to recognize this and keep the heat on the dems.
Democrats are sooooooo lame.
Actually they could have but they didn't. Most people elect to get "Qualified" or "Registered" with the Obamacare system before they actually "Enroll" and put their money on the line. On the average very few of those who "qualify" immediately enroll in the system. They may at some point but right now only 5% to 10% of the "Qualified" applicants appear to be doing so. It could be that price is holding them back or perhaps they just want time to think it over. Who knows?
The 51,000 certainly represents "Qualification" or "Registration" and not "Enrollments". At most that translates to something like 2500 to 5000 people signing up for Obamacare the first week. That is certainly possible.
And just for your future reference, a total of 38,462 people need to "Register" and "Enroll" EACH DAY for Obamacare to be considered a success. At this point that is not looking very likely.
Maybe US reporters are afraid of making Obama look bad...
you need a new calculator
"New Coke was retired for being a smaller disappointment."
time to change the tagline...
AND CONGRESS HAD BETTER NOT CAVE TO OBOZO’S DEMANDS TO END THE SHUTDOWN. WE ARE WINNING.
I'm only counting Obamcare sign-ups and, as you stated, 916 is number that Washington claims.
But you make a point that is being overlooked by a lot of people. This push to move people to Obamacare is, in all likelihood, going to move many more to Medicaid. That's why the Feds are pushing the States to expand Medicaid programs. Most but not all resisted that temptation.
The question is: will these Medicaid sign-ups count toward the Obama goal of 7,000,000 in 6 months.
I'm betting no but I could be wrong.
If that just under 51,000 enrollment number is correct, and that’s a BIG IF, I have just one question.
How many of those 51,000 were able to access their accounts again, hmmmm?