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New 'deadline' for fixing Obamacare glitches seen in mid-November
Reuters ^

Posted on 10/10/2013 5:03:57 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

New 'deadline' for fixing Obamacare glitches seen in mid-November

7:44pm EDT

By David Morgan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. administration has a little over a month to fix the technology problems crippling its online health insurance marketplace, or jeopardize the goal of signing up millions of Americans in time for benefits under President Barack Obama's healthcare law, experts said on Thursday.

Problems with the federal marketplace's entry portal serving 36 states, the website Healthcare.gov, continued for a 10th day on Thursday despite signs of gradual improvement, keeping a brake on the ability of consumers to shop for federally subsidized health coverage.

Poor turnout in enrollment would provide further ammunition for Republican foes of Obamacare, whose efforts to kill the law have culminated in a federal government shutdown that began on October 1, coinciding with the launch of the health insurance exchanges nationwide.

Already on Thursday, Republican lawmakers in Congress launched a new investigation into the technical glitches, sending letters to U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and two of the website's contractors, asking for details on what is causing the failures and any system changes or testing that had been performed.

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Uh huh.........
1 posted on 10/10/2013 5:03:57 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
What I heard today was no numbers until November. Does that tell us something??

We should be getting numbers every day.

Conclusion....Failure...

2 posted on 10/10/2013 5:05:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

everyone responsible for this debacle from the top to the bottom should be fired. This would be unacceptable in the private sector. The people would be gone.


3 posted on 10/10/2013 5:06:19 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Sub-Driver
I heard two experts that I know are code writing geniuses and they said it would take at least a year to rewrite this “garbage”. One said it isn’t even ready for beta... the other said it appeared that it was never even tested.
4 posted on 10/10/2013 5:07:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Antone know a good hacker?


5 posted on 10/10/2013 5:08:41 PM PDT by neal1960 (D m cr ts S ck. Would you like to buy a vowel?)
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To: plain talk

and to save what’s left of the company’s reputation and prevent further fodder for critics and competitors, they’d pull the product off the market immediately.


6 posted on 10/10/2013 5:08:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Sacajaweau
This is a perfect example of what government can do right...

Nuttin' honey!

The government can't wipe its fanny without an imbedded foundation.

And Obamacare doesn't have one.

Hey Nancy...let's read the bill to find what's in it.

7 posted on 10/10/2013 5:09:37 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah, mid-November, 2025.


8 posted on 10/10/2013 5:09:42 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, in four weeks they are going to fix something
that they’ve been working on for YEARS????

I don’t tin so.


9 posted on 10/10/2013 5:13:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neal1960

don’t need one when they hire people like this.


10 posted on 10/10/2013 5:14:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: tet68

Fix = throw more money to the contractors that screwed it up in the first place.


11 posted on 10/10/2013 5:15:29 PM PDT by matt04
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To: plain talk

“people would be gone” and the companies that they worked for would be just about gone as well.

Obama,...and Worldwide Communism come to mind here for some reason


12 posted on 10/10/2013 5:17:37 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Sub-Driver

They’ve been waiting 80 years to nationalize healthcare, it makes no difference how many enroll as the IRS will collect taxes on the slaggers, and it’s the law if the land so eat your peas.


13 posted on 10/10/2013 5:17:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Sub-Driver

A lot of commie libs will be playing Dialing for Healthcare around the Thanksgiving table this year. Gobble, gobble, gobble.


14 posted on 10/10/2013 5:20:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sum Ting Wong.


15 posted on 10/10/2013 5:20:30 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Sub-Driver
Don't EVER need an operation!
16 posted on 10/10/2013 5:24:08 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m just waiting for one of the hackers to hack the system and administer a swift end to the abomination.


17 posted on 10/10/2013 5:24:38 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (When His Arrogance talks out of his a$$, Harry Reid's lips move.)
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To: Sub-Driver
We could just email all our personal & health information directly to Russian hackers.

At least we wouldn't have to sit on a spinning website for two hours or more...

18 posted on 10/10/2013 5:24:39 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Secret Agent Man
don’t need one when they hire people like this.

So, who exactly are 'these people' ?

Canadian officials fired IT firm behind troubled Obamacare website

Canadian provincial health officials last year fired the parent company of CGI Federal, the prime contractor for the problem-plagued Obamacare health exchange websites, the Washington Examiner has learned.

CGI Federal’s parent company, Montreal-based CGI Group, was officially terminated in September 2012 by an Ontario government health agency after the firm missed three years of deadlines and failed to deliver the province’s flagship online medical registry.

19 posted on 10/10/2013 5:26:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: JPG



20 posted on 10/10/2013 5:31:16 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: tet68
So, in four weeks they are going to fix something that they’ve been working on for YEARS????

That is pretty much standard for lots of big projects, at least now they now know many of the places where they screwed up.

There is never time to do it right but there is always time to do it over.

Obamacare won't fail because of the technology, it will fail because people don't want to pay for bad insurance.

21 posted on 10/10/2013 5:33:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Are Obamacare subsidies based on net income or gross income?
If you max out a traditional IRA or 401K, can you bring down your household income to fall under the four times the federal poverty limit threshold?


22 posted on 10/10/2013 5:35:47 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Mike Darancette

I’d like to think you were right mike, but the problem
is that it’s out of the “people’s” hands.

As a woman I heard on the radio today said,
“So you mean they are going to tax some of us
and give it to other people who can’t pay their tax?”

I like to think this won’t stand but even I have doubts.


23 posted on 10/10/2013 5:37:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Once again, it’s OK for Bammy to delay KommieKare, but not Congress.


24 posted on 10/10/2013 5:41:17 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Did this happen in any particular state?

Well, we had "Summer of Recovery" I, II, III, IV, V

We will now have Obamacare reboot I, II, III, IV, V

25 posted on 10/10/2013 5:41:48 PM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: tbw2

Adjusted gross income. Yep.


26 posted on 10/10/2013 5:42:05 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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"New 'deadline' for fixing Obamacare
glitches seen in mid-November"


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27 posted on 10/10/2013 5:43:27 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Sub-Driver

Gee, they could hire all those software wonks out of work @ Solyndra, Fisker and about 15 other green energy firms to help on the project... ( sarc / off )


28 posted on 10/10/2013 6:00:42 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: tet68
I like to think this won’t stand but even I have doubts.

Remember Obamacare is not healthcare, it is 51 separate insurance exchanges (some state run some federally run) where private insurance companies freely choose to offer insurance to Americans based on federal guidelines. The insurance companies are depending on enough revenue from premiums to be able to pay patient care, they need well people to be able to pay for the treatment of sick people. If young and healthy people do not enroll then the insurance companies will lose money and will not offer coverage next year. Which could kill it

Another wild card is that federally run exchanges may not be able to offer subsidies which would kill Obamacare in those states (36 states).

29 posted on 10/10/2013 6:01:02 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: Sub-Driver
The next few weeks are going to be a b*&ch if you are an Indian.

Avoid answering n00b questions on stack overflow and keep the trainwreck going!

30 posted on 10/10/2013 6:21:07 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Sub-Driver

Four weeks including all testing? Sure.......


31 posted on 10/10/2013 6:23:50 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: neal1960
Antone know a good hacker?

I think this software came pre-hacked. Saves time.

32 posted on 10/10/2013 7:15:44 PM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: Flick Lives

Great. Millions GONE and we have no web site, no one signed up and no healthcare has even actually been delivered yet.

Where did the money go??

It’s the question we always seem to ask at the end of everything any sort of Democratically driven debacle they ever attempt.

Yet they get a pass ...let’s just try it one more time ...it will REALLY work this time!!

I just literally have no more of my head left to bang against any more walls.


33 posted on 10/10/2013 7:22:13 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: SecondAmendment

HA! BINGO!

Wonder how many folks on FR actually understood what you just said?

I did. Killer post - fellow geek!


34 posted on 10/11/2013 3:43:37 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Sub-Driver

The ACA is dead already. The administration just refuse to call time of death. Here’s why:

1) after 3-4 days of reporting glitches, fact is, that alone will cause most folks to avoid going to the site altogether. Word has it there are only 51-61K signups so far. That about 1% of what’s needed to keep the whole thing running.

2) With word out on the numbers, good luck finding decent American programmers willing to touch that site. Oh, I’m sure some would, in exchange for an ACA opt-out ticket - and lots of cash.

3) With many of the glitches being known publicly, and they still can’t fix them fast enough, it’s only a matter of time before the foreign exploits begin. The added motivation will be all the information Americans are REQUIRED to enter.

side note: As I hear GOP calling for investigations into the bad programming, I don’t hear the call from dems. My guess: the flawed web site is probably the BIG topic in their internals, with some probably saying use that excuse to give the GOP what they want. Problem is: the DNC is broke, and if they give in, they are all but finished.

4) It is/was an absolutely insane concept to require people to go to a web site - period. The entire ACA roll-out was flawed. Where’s the hard copy forms? Media promotion? Talk about your state-sponsored media all you want, but you would have to give them an ‘F’ on their promotion of this. In fact, the first things they had to say was from reporters who couldn’t even sign up.

Take this from a web engineer folks: When it comes to the web, It’s not about dem or gop, left or right. It’s 2013. If the site doesn’t work, customers leave, and they won’t come back, especially with ongoing bad reports. So at this point, maybe not the full ACA, but at least HealthCare.gov is dead for now. Their only hope is to repackage it and introduce it as something different. But if those bottom line premium numbers don’t change, it’ll be doomed to failure again.


35 posted on 10/11/2013 4:01:06 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: LibLieSlayer

Let Hussein fix the code himself.


36 posted on 10/11/2013 6:16:16 AM PDT by opres
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To: jimjohn

I am a good American programmer that left CGI because I refused to deliver this kind of crap just to meet a deadline.


37 posted on 10/11/2013 6:16:16 AM PDT by qacontrol
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To: taildragger

This would normally not be a bad idea, the exception in this case is that there would be more failures working on yet another failed project.


38 posted on 10/11/2013 6:50:25 AM PDT by rhubarbk (It's official, I'm suffering from Obama fatigue!)
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To: rhubarbk

Once again I get bitten by the sarc . . . the older I get the worse it gets. I just get so damn mad at whats going on that my mind races but my brain doesn’t.


39 posted on 10/11/2013 6:53:48 AM PDT by rhubarbk (It's official, I'm suffering from Obama fatigue!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"One said it isn’t even ready for beta... the other said it appeared that it was never even tested."

Then, like all premature ejac er releases of computer programs, this monster will probably still be causing problems for the Rats through the 2014 election.

Only “hundreds” have been able to sign up for a health care plan at the Obamacare websites. The Wall Street Journal reported:

Okay now we will try the landline # 1-800-318-2596 listed above or 1-800-318-2596 = 1-800-FAU-CKYO.


40 posted on 10/11/2013 7:40:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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To: tet68

How can you fix a website which is supposed to implement a totally unworkable law which is crazier than anything Lewis Carroll ever thought of? “The Walrus and The Carpenter” is perfectly logical and understandable by comparison. If ten thousand computer scientists with ten thousand assistants work for a thousand years on the website the real problem will remain unsolved. As we used to say in Dixie, “You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shiite”.


41 posted on 10/11/2013 10:05:54 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: RipSawyer

It’s likely a flawed architectural design. They’ll either have to start over or spend a decade straightening it out.

Ask anyone who has ever dealt with GCSS-A.


42 posted on 10/11/2013 10:07:20 AM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: opres

I’d bet he can’t even use Word.

LLS


43 posted on 10/11/2013 10:13:39 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: neal1960

I don’t know one thing about hacking but all reports indicate that the greatest hacker on Earth could not make this any worse, he could only improve it by accident. It reminds me of someone whose town was on the fringes of Hurricane Hugo, when I asked him what the effects were he said, “Oh, I estimate that Hugo did about ten thousand dollars worth of IMPROVEMENTS here.”


44 posted on 10/11/2013 10:15:27 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Send in the "Bobs"

"We fixed the glitch."

45 posted on 10/11/2013 10:17:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Grampa Dave

Absolute perfection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 10/11/2013 10:20:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Mike Darancette

Obamacare will fail because it was DESIGNED to fail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnY8r7_fLw


47 posted on 10/11/2013 10:22:20 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Windcatcher

I can only assume you are referring to the website, I am speaking of the absurd law the website is supposed to implement, the finest architecture in the world won’t fix that absurd law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnY8r7_fLw


48 posted on 10/11/2013 10:24:36 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: RipSawyer

LOL, Thanks.

You think Obama lied to the Insurance Industry as to the level participation?


49 posted on 10/11/2013 1:58:55 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: Mike Darancette

Is there anyone to whom he has told the truth about anything?


50 posted on 10/11/2013 5:31:45 PM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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