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License to kill: Proposed ‘stand your ground’ law in Ohio an invitation to violence and vigilantism
The Toledo Blade ^ | October 11, 2013 | The Editors

Posted on 10/10/2013 9:31:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Some Ohio lawmakers want to modify the state’s concealed-weapons law by vastly expanding the circumstances in which a person has no duty to retreat before using lethal force in self-defense. Such a “stand your ground” law is unnecessary. Worse, it would increase the danger of gun violence — something this state and its cities hardly need.

City councils in several Ohio communities, including Toledo, Akron, Dayton, and Cincinnati, formally oppose the proposed bill. Members of the Ohio Student Association also have protested it.

Current Ohio law states that people need not retreat in their residence, their vehicle, or the vehicle of an immediate family member. That’s more than adequate, covering areas of personal domain to which American legal tradition and the “castle doctrine” traditionally have extended special protections and immunities.

The proposed House bill would, among other changes, extend those immunities to anywhere a person has a legal right to be — a virtual invitation to violence and vigilantism. The fact that a person feels threatened, even by an unarmed person, should not become a license to kill, or a legal justification for shooting another person, anytime and anyplace.

Stand-your-ground laws — sometimes disparagingly called “shoot first,” “kill at will,” or “make my day” — have been hotly debated across the country, especially since the fatal shooing of an unarmed teenager, Trayvon Martin....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2ndamend; banglist; guncontrol; liberalrag; ohio; secondamendment; selfdefense; standyourground; toledoblade; toledoblah
They bring up Trayvon for the emotional value, since stand your ground had nothing to do with that case. Thousands upon thousands of little Joseph Goebbels in every newsroom across this continent.
1 posted on 10/10/2013 9:31:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not Joseph Goebbels just simply ignorant, uninformed or purposely deceitful leftist. Joseph Goebbels had a plan (Hideous and evil) and a goal. These people just like to ride their imaginary moral high-horse and the facts be damned


2 posted on 10/10/2013 9:35:41 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In Barry’s America, it’s starting to come down to kill or be killed. Normal Americans need all of these kinds of laws we can get if we are going to survive living in a country full of feral Obamanoids.


3 posted on 10/10/2013 9:38:04 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The liberals “protect your local thug” attitude.


4 posted on 10/10/2013 9:38:56 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: Fai Mao
They have a plan too. It’s when they are faking a confused stance that they are deep into executing the plan.
Hold out baits to entice your enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.

The Art Of War, I:20

5 posted on 10/10/2013 9:39:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As I understand it, stand-your-ground laws remove one situational advantage from evil-doers and threateners of physical harm and, they partially reverse a disadvantage to violent crime victims.
6 posted on 10/10/2013 9:42:49 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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License to kill: Proposed ‘stand your ground’ law in Ohio an invitation to violence and vigilantism

No. "Stand your Ground" laws provide incentives for sub-humans to behave more like humans, even if they don't aspire to become such.

7 posted on 10/10/2013 9:48:58 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I got news for you.
Stand your ground has been going on there all mylife.

They just give punks the rule of law as of late.


8 posted on 10/10/2013 9:50:36 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stand your ground laws only increase the likelihood of someone getting shot if a criminal is attacking someone. Removing those kinds of people from society is performing a service.


9 posted on 10/10/2013 10:01:00 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Fai Mao
Not Joseph Goebbels just simply ignorant, uninformed or purposely deceitful leftist. Joseph Goebbels had a plan (Hideous and evil) and a goal. These people just like to ride their imaginary moral high-horse and the facts be damned

Sorry but you are incorrect. They have their own evil goals, it's called a Marxist based government.

It may not be as focused as Goebbels, but is a goal, and it includes a transformation of America including the defeat and removal of our individual liberties.
10 posted on 10/10/2013 10:01:34 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Fai Mao

Excellent


11 posted on 10/10/2013 10:13:18 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gun free zones are the perfect free fire zones for the crazed democrat mass murderers that continue to wreak havoc on civil society.

What does one think the outcome will be when a “president” instructs people to “get in your neighbor's face” and “bring a gun”.

12 posted on 10/10/2013 10:17:13 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
feral Obamanoids.

Spot on description. Very accurate, alarmingly so.

13 posted on 10/10/2013 10:37:29 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: meadsjn

You have it right.


14 posted on 10/10/2013 11:49:27 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trayvon Martin’s physical attack on George Zimmerman was needless and senseless.


15 posted on 10/11/2013 12:13:01 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny, a license to kill, killing a subhuman who attacks you or your family is all of a sudden WRONG and we should not be given the opportunity to protect ourself. Ask the editors on the toledo blade if they have protection or does anyone in thier family circle have? Hypocrite scumedia bowing to the left agenda!


16 posted on 10/11/2013 3:01:33 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Gabrial
Gun free zones are the perfect free fire zones for the crazed democrat mass murderers that continue to wreak havoc on civil society.

The other day, Beck said that between 1950 and today, all but 2 of the "mass shootings" occurred in "gun free" zones.

17 posted on 10/11/2013 5:09:21 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Which two? All that comes to mind were the bases.


18 posted on 10/11/2013 5:20:09 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

He didn’t say - I seem to recall some sniper in a tower or something some years ago.


19 posted on 10/11/2013 5:26:25 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Fai Mao

I just love the morally superior, but I can be just as morally superior to these pricks.

The Toledo Blade to potential rape victims “Lay back and enjoy it”


20 posted on 10/11/2013 5:36:34 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t go thuggin’

and there won’t be any shootin’.


21 posted on 10/11/2013 5:38:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: IMR 4350

After all, “it was only a whoop-ass”.


22 posted on 10/11/2013 5:39:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Toledo Blade has been the home of extremist Leftists for decades. Of course they oppose allowing deadly force to be used to deal with the results of their social and urban policies.


23 posted on 10/11/2013 5:41:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More “blood in the streets” BS in the face of the overwhelming evidence from every other State that has rolled out the Stand Your Ground laws.

Doesn’t Ohio want lower murder rates? Rape rates? Do they want more criminals surviving their attempts to victimize others?

People used to think that the collusion between Leftist propaganda and the MSM’s Leftward tilt was the stuff of tinfoil-hattery. I think those folks are missing the bigger picture right in front of them. Almost pure agitprop coming from the MSM these days.


24 posted on 10/11/2013 5:46:55 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Proposed ‘stand your ground’ law in Ohio an invitation to violence and vigilantism

What's wrong with violence and vigilantism? Some people need to be on the receiving end of violence and vigilantism.

25 posted on 10/11/2013 5:55:40 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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Stand your ground? More like Bring It On.
No challenge No problem!


26 posted on 10/11/2013 7:12:09 AM PDT by smilebig1 (Just one opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And I am sure the Toledo Blade also thinks that women should pee on their rapists. Or maybe that is too violent for them. These people disgust me.

They want others to simply lay down their lives while they would never advise their own families to do the same.


27 posted on 10/11/2013 8:41:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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