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Gun limits could lead to recalls of [California] legislators
sfgate.com ^ | Ovt 10, 2013 | Joe Garofoli

Posted on 10/11/2013 7:48:41 AM PDT by 11th_VA

Gun-rights advocates are ready to launch a recall attempt aimed at some of California's most vulnerable Democratic state lawmakers - and the party's supermajority hold on the Legislature - if Gov. Jerry Brown signs some of the dozen-plus gun-control bills sitting on his desk.

They're emboldened by the successful recalls last month of two Colorado Democratic legislators who supported gun restrictions, including the leader of the state Senate. Voters replaced both with Republicans.

"As soon as the results came in Colorado, our phones started ringing," said Jennifer Kerns, the California political consultant who helped lead the Colorado recalls. "Until then, a lot of people thought California was a lost state (on gun-rights issues). But Colorado showed them it doesn't have to be."

Brown wouldn't be a recall target, organizers said. The costs are too great - perhaps $2 million - to gather enough signatures to put a statewide recall on the ballot.

Instead, gun-rights activists are focused on legislators who voted for the gun bills before Brown, a list that includes nearly every Democrat in Sacramento.

The big advantage: Gathering signatures to recall an Assembly or state Senate member is comparatively cheap.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
It's getting interesting ...
1 posted on 10/11/2013 7:48:41 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Colorado, yes; California, probably not.


2 posted on 10/11/2013 7:50:12 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Jack Hammer
California, probably not

Some of the Democrats won narrowly because Obama was on the ballot. If only a few Democrats were defeated, the RAT super majority in the Assembly could be thwarted ... that itself would be a win.

3 posted on 10/11/2013 7:52:38 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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This is in my state. We are rallying the troops up and the NRA is prepared to sue over SB374, which permanently bans any weapon deemed an assault rifle. There are even non-AR and non-AK type weapons with stocks, such as the SKS which made this list of ‘evil guns’.

They also set up a registration system so that they can arbitrarily confiscate the moment a crime with an AW is committed.


4 posted on 10/11/2013 7:53:07 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: Jack Hammer

Someone may attempt to get the ball rolling but I got a feelin’ the fruits and nuts will far outnumber the kali patriots. I also saw where the kolorado second round of recall activity is probably not going to happen. Such beautiful states laid waste by liberals. Purty friggin’ sad.


5 posted on 10/11/2013 7:53:15 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: 11th_VA

Tar and feather would be more appropriate.


6 posted on 10/11/2013 7:54:37 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: 11th_VA; rktman

California? Never happen.


7 posted on 10/11/2013 7:57:40 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: InsidiousMongo

Very admirable!!! I wish you the very best in this...its far better than jumping ship and moving to another state.


8 posted on 10/11/2013 8:00:20 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: 11th_VA

There are a lot of Republicans in CA.

That being said, about 2 years ago I sat next to one on a flight and we started talking politics. He was an older Republican white male and he thought obama was doing a good job. Opened my eyes to CA “Republicans”


9 posted on 10/11/2013 8:02:18 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 11th_VA
Sheesh, first tax me into oblivion, demand my diet not include foods I've eaten all my life, that's OK.

Touch my gun, I'm outta here or you're outta there?

Sorry, I love visiting some places in CA but wouldn't ever consider living there.

One has to have a serious psychosis to believe life should be lived in that Hell, er, I mean Nirvana!

10 posted on 10/11/2013 8:04:35 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: 11th_VA

I’d forego it here. Here, you’d lose, and take some of the momentum out of the recall movement.


11 posted on 10/11/2013 8:05:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: 11th_VA
It’s about damn time. This communists infiltrated bunch of Sacramento rats will be hard to dump but even a few would be great. A major recall should be Brown.
12 posted on 10/11/2013 8:07:13 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Red in Blue PA

He was an older Republican white male and he thought obama was doing a good job. Opened my eyes to CA “Republicans”


That guy was pulling your chain.


13 posted on 10/11/2013 8:08:15 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

So you know that he was pulling my chain even though I was the one talking to him for 2 hours and you never met him?

Seriously?


14 posted on 10/11/2013 8:17:15 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You have a good point. Sorry. Did he say he voted for Obama? You must have been frustrated.


15 posted on 10/11/2013 8:20:25 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

"Oh, stewardess... I don't speak retard, could you translate ?"

16 posted on 10/11/2013 8:21:25 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 11th_VA

sign me up.


17 posted on 10/11/2013 8:24:04 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: Red in Blue PA

That’s the same in New England or should I say the north east.

I’ve met many of them when I worked up there.


18 posted on 10/11/2013 8:32:52 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Jack Hammer

I think the chances of successful recalls against Assembly members and Senate members in California are better than most people think they are. The Democrats knew they were playing with fire, and hopefully they will start getting singed. Just a couple successful recalls can change the balance back to where the Republicans can start halting any further tax increases.


19 posted on 10/11/2013 8:44:39 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

I’m an active “Gun Rights are Civil Right” activist here, and since I’m being laid off Tuesday, I’ll have lots of free time to be “ boots on the ground” for this effort.

There are several vulnerable Assembly members and State Senators where the effort could succeed. The key will be grassroots participation and funding.


20 posted on 10/11/2013 8:51:24 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
My best wishes to you at this time regarding your pending lay off.

I am not able to do much "walking" but I can at least donate. I will donate when the recalls start.

21 posted on 10/11/2013 8:53:38 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: 11th_VA

It will be VERY interesting to see how this plays out.

California’s demographics have changed SO much in the past few years — too many beholden to the Democratic party. I read yesterday that the under 25 population is now 70% non-White in California.

Keep us posted on thie 11th_VA.

I don’t always have time to read the biased news (not that this would even appear) — but I read FReep a lot — better news here.


22 posted on 10/11/2013 8:53:44 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: laplata

Trojan Horse.


23 posted on 10/11/2013 8:56:51 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 11th_VA
This is what the democrats have ruined, my state of California, in the past 50 years. I'm glad my dad, who LOVED California, is no longer alive to see the destruction of his home state.

All being turned into a 3rd world toilet while productive citizens like my family (who EMPLOY people) are being taxed out of existence.

Photos are of Big Sur.

24 posted on 10/11/2013 9:00:02 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: Enterprise

Nice thoughts, but I think you’re dreaming.


25 posted on 10/11/2013 9:03:46 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: 11th_VA

“Gun-rights advocates are ready to launch a recall attempt aimed at some of California’s most vulnerable Democratic state lawmakers................................”

Go git ‘em. We will be happy to sign.


26 posted on 10/11/2013 9:09:50 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

That’s right.

In 1990 I talked a liberal woman into voting for Ralph Nader rather than Algore. I posed as a liberal and fed her a line and she fell for it. She figured it out later and never talked to me again.


27 posted on 10/11/2013 9:10:15 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I meant to say 2000, not 1990.


28 posted on 10/11/2013 9:11:04 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Bon of Babble
I read yesterday that the under 25 population is now 70% non-White in California.

That may be true, but keep in mind that something like 1 out of every 3 Californians lives in LA county. Since LA is effectively a Mexican province, the sheer number of anchor babies being cranked out down there will really affect that below-25 statistic.

If the districts are chosen carefully, then recall efforts could have a lot of success in CA. Trying to do recalls in LA, SF, or the coast in between will result in failure, but anywhere else is fair game (although Sacramento has become severely blue over the last 15 years or so due to all the Bay Area refugees).
29 posted on 10/11/2013 9:19:43 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: laplata

Ralph Nader probably would be better than Al Gore. Shudder.


30 posted on 10/11/2013 9:20:29 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

You’re right but I did it to take a vote away from Algore.

We haven’t had a decent president since Ronald Reagan.


31 posted on 10/11/2013 9:28:07 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Jack Hammer; Bob Ireland

I sincerely hope that they do succeed in recalling some of those lunatic California legislators. However, there is a reason that democrats have a super-majority in the legislature there: the voters there elect communist politicians.

Until the voters stop electing communists, California is not going to change.


32 posted on 10/11/2013 9:41:06 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Bob Ireland

California is a one-party state like most New England states. Republican or democrat is just a generic label in California and many other states. These politicians exist to get our vote in order to bring home our money to Washington, D.C. for their purposes.


33 posted on 10/11/2013 9:49:20 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: going hot

Too much bother. Rope is cheaper and the results are much more permanent.

Plus-a single application is usually all that’s needed...


34 posted on 10/11/2013 9:51:52 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: Jack Hammer

If they could find ONE very vulnerable Dem and recall that one, the resulting political shockwaves would make Dems much less interested in pushing the gun grabber agenda. That goes for not only the Dems in Kalifornia, but for the rest of the nation as well.

Worth the effort and worth supporting in my opinion.


35 posted on 10/11/2013 9:55:36 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: 11th_VA

crappola,
Only surprise here is tha Calif. hasn’t yet sent their goon squads door to door confiscating ALL guns in the state.


36 posted on 10/11/2013 11:34:16 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Jack Hammer

The good news was that we recalled a Governor. The bad news was that we elected Schwarzendoofus.


37 posted on 10/11/2013 11:38:00 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: laplata

No kidding he was pulling your chain, I dont know any Kalifornia Repubs that think Obama is doing anything but ruin the country.


38 posted on 10/11/2013 11:40:17 AM PDT by pmac (From the lawless regions of Eastern Ca, next to free America)
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To: pmac

Yep.


39 posted on 10/11/2013 11:44:49 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Q-ManRN
There a lot of good Repubs in Kalifornia, the problem is that the highly populated areas of the SF bay area, LA basin Sacramento out number us out here in rural country.
Our votes are out numbered in every election so there is not equal representation in the state, that is way there has always been a desire to split the state, pipe dream but it does exist.
40 posted on 10/11/2013 11:47:13 AM PDT by pmac (From the lawless regions of Eastern Ca, next to free America)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Steve Van Doorn; Syncro; ProtectOurFreedom; vrwc1; Citizen James; abigail2; ...
BANG & good luck!
41 posted on 10/11/2013 1:49:14 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: 11th_VA

It might work if it’s a off cycle election, most Democrats only came out to vote for O so they aren’t that motivated to show when one of their stars isn’t up for election. The real problem is that most of the conservatives have already been squeezed out of the state due to high taxes and regulations. So even when the Dem’s don’t show up there aren’t any Conservatives left to vote them out. Will be interesting to see what happens.


42 posted on 10/11/2013 1:49:24 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: 11th_VA

When you have nothing left to lose, you go all out. What is the worst that can happen?


43 posted on 10/11/2013 1:56:09 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Jack Hammer
Colorado, yes; California, probably not.

I am not sure, but I am leaving California soon, like next month.

44 posted on 10/11/2013 2:06:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: neverdem

Thanks. Seems hopeless, but on this issue I won’t go without a struggle. From my cold dead hand...


45 posted on 10/11/2013 4:11:44 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Bon of Babble

“California’s demographics have changed SO much in the past few years — too many beholden to the Democratic party. I read yesterday that the under 25 population is now 70% non-White in California.”

i’m not a racist. i’m only a racist using the Marxist media definition, if you’re white, male, Christian, you just shut up.
anyhow, that statistic floors me when I think about my freshman year in college at the old boston state college. it was 1974 and this is amazing but true. in 5 classes that year there was one African American kid. if you go to any college campus in boston today, you could walk for two hours before seeing a white male.


46 posted on 10/11/2013 11:50:18 PM PDT by willywill
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To: 11th_VA; All

I’ll believe it when I see it...


47 posted on 10/12/2013 4:07:34 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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