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Gov. Brown Vetoes Centerpiece Bill Putting New Restrictions On Gun Ownership
CBS 5 KPIX ^ | October 11, 2013 1:16 PM | AP

Posted on 10/11/2013 1:46:43 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod

Edited on 10/11/2013 2:22:09 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SACRAMENTO (CBS/AP) Gov. Jerry Brown has vetoed a bill that would have banned future sales of most semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines, part of a firearms package approved by state lawmakers in response to mass shootings in other states.


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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ar15; banglist; bulletbutton; guncontrol; moonbeam; secondamendment

1 posted on 10/11/2013 1:46:43 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Gov. Jerry Brown has vetoed a bill that would have banned future sales of most semi-automatic rifles

Did Gov Moonbeam grab the wrong pen while in a drug induced haze?

2 posted on 10/11/2013 1:50:42 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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oops. I realize I should have clipped this article.


3 posted on 10/11/2013 1:52:25 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Too far-reaching? Lololol. That’s a good one, MoonBeam.. But it’s OK to let illegals have DLs and healthcare.. Strange times..:-)


4 posted on 10/11/2013 1:53:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

This is surprising. The NRA still has some clout with their membership skyrocketing to epic levels. Nice to see Gov. Brown retains Americans right to shoot illegal alien invaders when the brutal Civil War starts.


5 posted on 10/11/2013 1:54:24 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Must be part of some weird “keep them guessing” strategy.

I had to chuckle about the line where they said using lead ammo was dangerous to humans. Oh really? Since that has been the type of ammo used pretty much since firearms were invented, how come were just finding about about the danger now?


6 posted on 10/11/2013 1:55:30 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
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Supporters of the new law say the use of lead bullets also endangers humans who eat game killed with the ammunition.

I weep tears of bitter piteousness for all the pioneers and hunters of yore who were killed by ingesting lead from freshly-killed game .... oh, wait, they weren't.

Sorry. Just another Susan Sarandon moment.

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7 posted on 10/11/2013 1:55:31 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: NormsRevenge
But it’s OK to let illegals have DLs and healthcare..

And free machine guns, paid for by USG and shipped down to Mexico by MiniTrue and MiniLove.

Freedom is slavery, war is peace. Rock on.

8 posted on 10/11/2013 1:57:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Nice to see Gov. Brown retains Americans right to shoot illegal alien invaders when the brutal Civil War starts ...

Gov. Moonbeam is on the other side. Nice to see him blink, though.

9 posted on 10/11/2013 1:58:40 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Recall, that is the only reason Moonbeam vetoed anything. He saw what happened in Colorado. He cares not about gun rights!


10 posted on 10/11/2013 2:01:11 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Ronin

While eating your pheasant, you might bite down on a shotgun pellet and break a tooth.

.. or something.


11 posted on 10/11/2013 2:03:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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However it looks like the reworked hi capacity magazine ban went through. Which was targeted at old grandfathered magazines and “rebuild kits.”

Although after initial readings, I don’t see that it is written in a way that specifies you can’t sell to CA addresses. “causes to be manufactured” might be what they tried to use for selling...

Anyway after July 14 next year, even the old grandfathered magazines will be illegal it seems. I’m sure everyone will turn them in. Guess we’ll be seeing pmags for $100 again pretty quick here.

AB48 text (hi cap mags)
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140AB48


12 posted on 10/11/2013 2:03:21 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

He probably thought the bill wasn’t strong enough because it talked about “semi-automatic” weapons. He’ll figure it out eventually.


13 posted on 10/11/2013 2:03:28 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: dforest

ding .. ding .. ding — we have a winner!


14 posted on 10/11/2013 2:04:18 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Ronin

Some multi million dollar Fed study that we paid for seems like the most logical explanation.


15 posted on 10/11/2013 2:12:15 PM PDT by matt04
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To: dforest
Recall, that is the only reason Moonbeam vetoed anything. He saw what happened in Colorado. He cares not about gun rights!

Bingo.

16 posted on 10/11/2013 2:19:12 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Doesn’t really make a difference because it was all for show. When they repeal the law that allows gun confiscations because of rumors, ex-wife or family unproven accusations, inferences from neighbors, anonymous accusations, etc. then there might be a difference. If they want your gun, they’ve got ample legal ammunition to go get it.


17 posted on 10/11/2013 2:19:27 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (When His Arrogance talks out of his a$$, Harry Reid's lips move.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Be afraid be very afraid.


18 posted on 10/11/2013 2:27:24 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Yeah, but many of us have even more ammunition. ;-)

MOLON LABE!


19 posted on 10/11/2013 2:28:52 PM PDT by TampaDude (Obama sucks!)
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I’m going to start a service, like hard drive destruction services. Send your 10+ magazine to me and I uh...promise it will be destroyed and metal parts will be recycled. I think I can make OK money if I only charge $5 per magazine.


20 posted on 10/11/2013 2:30:04 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: smokingfrog
"While eating your pheasant, you might bite down on a shotgun pellet and break a tooth."

I can testify to that. It was a mourning dove instead of a pheasant, but I learned the hard way to carefully check my birds for shot when I clean them, and again before I cook them.

21 posted on 10/11/2013 2:50:16 PM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

The majority Rat legislature put up SB 374 to provide Brown cover when he vetoed it for all the other firearm measures he signed. Not a good day for freedom.


22 posted on 10/11/2013 2:54:23 PM PDT by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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I expect, aside from the occasional let er rip session, most people only have 30 rd magazines for SHTF scenarios. I’m sure most of these will just continue to sit where they are. I can’t see many people turning them in. Especially since you can claim you mailed them out of state, as the bill lists as an option.


23 posted on 10/11/2013 2:58:51 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Gov. Moonbeam is on the other side. Nice to see him blink, though.

You are right. He is a big time leftist. He may have blinked, because he put his finger in the air.

24 posted on 10/11/2013 3:37:06 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: Mark17

He did sign the state wide lead ammo ban for hunting.


25 posted on 10/11/2013 3:45:26 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

This should do a lot to drive down the inflated prices of AR-15 clones in Calif.


26 posted on 10/11/2013 4:08:47 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: smokingfrog
"While eating your pheasant, you might bite down on a shotgun pellet and break a tooth. .. or something."

That's what happens with steel shot, not lead.

27 posted on 10/11/2013 4:11:18 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: KneelBeforeZod

The phone call from Sodom on the Potomac will be coming in shortly threatening a cut off of Fed money to KaliforniHOMOstan.


29 posted on 10/11/2013 4:38:04 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Recalls have consequences.


30 posted on 10/11/2013 4:40:46 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NormsRevenge

And practice law.


31 posted on 10/11/2013 4:50:13 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Indeed. The threat worked as planned.

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32 posted on 10/11/2013 4:52:09 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: smokingfrog

Did that on a duck. Steel shot, though.


33 posted on 10/11/2013 4:55:27 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

California: Anti-Gun/Hunting Bills are both Signed into Law and Vetoed by Governor Brown Today

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The wait is over for California’s law-abiding gun owners, sportsmen and Second Amendment supporters.  Governor Brown has signed some anti-gun bills and one anti-hunting bill into law.  However, he also vetoed several anti-gun bills.

Below is a list of the bills signed into law and vetoed as well as a link to the respective descriptions given by Governor Brown.

The NRA will be looking over all the recently signed laws and our legal options for law-abiding Californians.

Thanks to NRA members, gun owners, sportsmen and Second Amendment supporters who tirelessly called and e-mailed their state legislators and the Governor urging them to oppose all the anti-gun/hunting legislation. Without your help, the veto actions on some of the deeply flawed anti-gun bills may not have occurred.

 

Bills Enacted into law:

Assembly Bill 711
 (Rendon) makes California the first state in the nation to prohibit the use of all lead ammunition for hunting.  To view Governor Brown’s signing message, click here.


Assembly Bill 48
 (Skinner) bans the sale of parts and repair kits capable of creating or converting a magazine to a capacity to hold greater than ten rounds.


Assembly Bill 231
 (Ting) expands the law relating to the storage of firearms.


Senate Bill 683
 (Block) expands California’s handgun safety certificate requirement to apply to all firearms, and prohibits anyone from purchasing or transferring any firearm without a firearm safety certificate.

 

Bills Vetoed:

Senate Bill 374
 (Steinberg) bans the future sale or transfer of and classify ALL semi-automatic rifles with a detachable magazine or holding more than ten rounds of ammunition as "assault weapons" and the continued legal possession of these newly classified semi-automatics as “assault weapons” would require that you REGISTER and pay a FEE (TAX) on ALL of them.  To view Governor Brown’s veto message, please click here.


Assembly Bill 169
 (Dickinson) limits the sale and transfer of all lawfully acquired firearms that were never, or are no longer, on the California roster of approved handguns to two a year and redefines the technical provisions of single short pistols.  To view Governor Brown’s veto message, please click here.


Assembly Bill 180
 (Bonta) repeals state firearms preemption by allowing the City of Oakland to enact ordinances that are more restrictive than state laws concerning the registration or licensing of firearms.  To view Governor Brown’s veto message, please click here.


Senate Bill 299
 (DeSaulnier) makes it a crime if a victim of firearm theft does not report the theft within seven days.  To view Governor Brown’s veto message, please click here.


Senate Bill 475
 (Leno) effectively bans gun shows at the Cow Palace by requiring approval of the board of supervisors of the Counties of San Mateo and San Francisco prior to any gun shows.  To view Governor Brown’s veto message, please click here.


Senate Bill 567
 (Jackson) redefines shotguns to include any firearm that may be fired through a rifled bore or a smooth bore, regardless of whether it is designed to be fired from the shoulder.  SB 567 also bans the sale of shotguns encompassed by the revised definitions that have a revolving cylinder, and requires registration of these currently owned shotguns.  To view Governor Brown’s veto message, please click here.


Senate Bill 755
 (Wolk) expands the list of persons prohibited from owning a firearm, including persons who have operated cars and boats while they are impaired commonly referred to as DUI.  To view Governor Brown’s veto message, please click here.

Sad day for California Gun Owners.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

34 posted on 10/11/2013 5:15:25 PM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: KneelBeforeZod

that’s something if true. those of us calling and writing still has some effect. even in the bluest of blue states.

thanks gun owners of ca for standing up.


35 posted on 10/11/2013 5:19:09 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Doomonyou

“He did sign the state wide lead ammo ban for hunting.”

Just when I was getting used to the taste of lead bullets and shot.


36 posted on 10/11/2013 5:53:55 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Ronin

I guess they were too absorbed still fretting about the dangers of those iron cannon-balls to worry about lead. Anyway, they are more scared of the full-metal-jacket than the lead inside.


37 posted on 10/11/2013 6:05:41 PM PDT by expat2
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Did Gov Moonbeam grab the wrong pen while in a drug induced haze?

Brown acid vs. Green acid?

38 posted on 10/11/2013 6:06:42 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Can I be your subcontractor who spares you the chore of destroying the nasty things. In order to save Californian liberal lives, I’ll do it for free.


39 posted on 10/11/2013 6:10:00 PM PDT by expat2
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To: VR-21

You need a mini metal-detector.


40 posted on 10/11/2013 6:10:57 PM PDT by expat2
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To: KneelBeforeZod

AB 48 will likely be challenged as an unconstitutional taking (5th Amendment). On the other hand, it’s unenforceable; so it may be a little hard to prove that it’s actually damaged someone’s rights.


41 posted on 10/11/2013 7:05:52 PM PDT by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Doomonyou
"He did sign the state wide lead ammo ban for hunting."

If hunters react to that by ceasing all hunting, ruminant populations will increase. Predator populations will also consequently increase (more ruminants as food for predators, fewer predators hunted). So predator populations around suburbs will increase and be more hungry at times. Then more residents will eventually want to rethink the ban against lead ammunition.


42 posted on 10/11/2013 7:17:30 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Doomonyou

Another consideration: less hunting, less revenues for those who want to ban freedoms.


43 posted on 10/11/2013 7:43:16 PM PDT by familyop
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looks like Pmags are going to be worth $120 again


44 posted on 10/11/2013 9:42:17 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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