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Obama turns down GOP proposal (Demands Boehner/Cantor/Ryan also surrender on tax increases...)
Politico ^ | 10/11/13 | BURGESS EVERETT, JAKE SHERMAN and JOHN BRESNAHAN

Posted on 10/11/2013 1:51:29 PM PDT by jimbo123

President Barack Obama spoke with House Speaker John Boehner on Friday but did not wholly accept the House Republican plan to open government, raise the debt ceiling and open budget talks, sources said.

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Senior Republican sources say Obama is amenable to changes to mandatory and discretionary spending, but needs Republicans to commit to increasing governmental revenue.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; cantor; gop4obamacare; rinos; romneycare; romneycare4ever; romneycare4you; ryan; surrender
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1 posted on 10/11/2013 1:51:29 PM PDT by jimbo123
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The RINOS surrender to Obama on ObamaCare, Debt Ceiling and Sequester and it appears Tax Increases will be next.


2 posted on 10/11/2013 1:54:01 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Obama wants to raise taxes. I’m shocked!


3 posted on 10/11/2013 1:55:08 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: jimbo123
increasing governmental revenue.

No. The government gets plenty of revenue. Stop spending us into bankruptcy.

4 posted on 10/11/2013 1:55:41 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jimbo123

Remember.....it’s not ‘tax increases’ - it’s ‘revenue enhancement’.

Somewhere, George Orwell is smiling at the fact that he was a visionary.


5 posted on 10/11/2013 1:55:52 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: jimbo123

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/boehner-and-obama-will-keep-talking-as-default-looms/

Much, MUCH better than POLITICO’s agitprop.

“...Budget Committee Chairman Paul D. Ryan, R-Wis., indicated to reporters that he does not support to the proposal pushed by Collins, Kind and Dent.”


6 posted on 10/11/2013 1:56:28 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: jimbo123

As a retired Realtor this is precisely how I negotiated for my buyers......first we found a house they liked, then I had them sign a blank contract, gave it to the sellers and they would fill in the terms that worked for them.


7 posted on 10/11/2013 1:56:50 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: jimbo123

Republicans: Get a fricking clue. Do not go anywhere near Obama. When he “summons” you just ignore him. Make him come crawling to you.


8 posted on 10/11/2013 1:58:50 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: jimbo123

Gov Revenue? Raise Taxes? Never enough for the KommyDems

Now, Obastard is rubbing their faces in it until Bonehead & Co. come crawling on their hands and knees.

This is sickening, I cant stand to watch it anymore. gotta do some stuff around the house. Bye America it was nice knowing ya.


9 posted on 10/11/2013 1:59:06 PM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: jimbo123

In other news: Obama also demanded that they take turns under his desk...might as well, because the RINOs are doing this philosophically if not in actuality.


10 posted on 10/11/2013 1:59:16 PM PDT by madison10
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To: jimbo123
There is a win-win here.

Mister Boehner should add his resignation as SOH as part of the deal.

.

11 posted on 10/11/2013 1:59:20 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: jimbo123

He also wants Boehner and McConnell to kiss his butt on South Park. Spokesmen for the two say they are eager to proceed.


12 posted on 10/11/2013 1:59:53 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: jimbo123

Let’s see:

The MSM claims that the republican party is at an all time low in the polls (due to the government shutdown)

Another poll says 53% of republicans think there should be a third party.

Let’s see 1+1=


13 posted on 10/11/2013 2:00:15 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: mrsmith

Obama is demanding tax increases from the Ryan Plan pushed by Boehner and Cantor. You are getting the Ryan Plan mixed up with the Collins Plan.


14 posted on 10/11/2013 2:00:44 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I was just thinking that taxes are way too low. :)


15 posted on 10/11/2013 2:00:48 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: jimbo123

I have a simple solution. Just increase the Obamacare premiums.


16 posted on 10/11/2013 2:01:03 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: jimbo123

The GOP would have been better off to have just passed all this stuff off the bat. Now they have negotiated themselves into tax hikes. Greaaaat!!!!


17 posted on 10/11/2013 2:02:02 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jimbo123; All

Based on the title of the article, it seems like Obama met with Republicans just to be able to claim that he met with Republicans but having no intension to compromise with Republicans. If such was the case then the Republicans fell into a PC trap imo.


18 posted on 10/11/2013 2:02:32 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: madison10

I think Reggie Love is out of a job now since Boehner, Ryan and Cantor are serving in that role for free.


19 posted on 10/11/2013 2:02:32 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I hope all those that vilified me when I suggested this is how they would cave.... slowly, will post me back and say, “You were right after all. Boner did end up dropping the Obamacare issue, re-opening the government and extending the debt limit.”

We were told, “It’s not caving. Learn the facts. He is only offering to delay Obamacare and that puts it in an election year. The House won’t budget any further..... yea right.


20 posted on 10/11/2013 2:02:45 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: jimbo123

All because the idiot GOP moderates cannot get their act together and are not good spokespeople.

Btw Ryan was a lousy VP candidate. Politicians are bums.


21 posted on 10/11/2013 2:05:23 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: jimbo123

Time is not Obama’s friend.


22 posted on 10/11/2013 2:05:59 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: Toespi
As a retired realtor...

Towards the end of the housing bubble, I think people really were doing that.

23 posted on 10/11/2013 2:06:14 PM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Orwell would be shouting -

“It was a WARNING, not a GUIDEBOOK!”


24 posted on 10/11/2013 2:06:40 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: jimbo123

Why should Obama concede anything to these pathetic weaklings? The Republican “leaders” may bark, but there’s no bite. He knows the party is deeply divided and incapable of dealing with him. He’s kicking them around like a rented mule.


25 posted on 10/11/2013 2:07:07 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: jimbo123

Read the article- if you wish. I’m showing you a source that is less a Democrat party organ than POLITICO- though still estanblishment/liberal leaning.

I chose that part to quote as the most important, not the most germane to your post.
The most likely way we fail is the Republican Senators joining Harry to send a CR/debt limit bill to the House. It would be unstoppable and disastrous. Of course that is not the only danger but it is the most likely.


26 posted on 10/11/2013 2:07:23 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: jimbo123

Obama is proven a liar.
His “I will not negotiate” statements are lies.
The opposition must keep pushing, he’s a pussy and will cave.


27 posted on 10/11/2013 2:08:14 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: DouglasKC

They just don’t have it in them to fight. They have no concept of winning. They are losers.


28 posted on 10/11/2013 2:08:18 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Tzimisce

You are right. Taxes are too low. The 0bamacare penalties that tens of millions of Americans will be paying are not enough. We should all bay more. It is for the children. Excuse me while I go puke.


29 posted on 10/11/2013 2:08:24 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: jimbo123

I have never been for a third party, but the RINOs have totally ruined us. We have to dump the GOP and start over. I can never vote for any of these wimps again!


30 posted on 10/11/2013 2:10:17 PM PDT by dforest
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To: jimbo123

ANYTHING from Politico can not be trusted, period.


31 posted on 10/11/2013 2:12:01 PM PDT by Gator113 (Ted Cruz is settled law.)
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32 posted on 10/11/2013 2:13:44 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: jimbo123

My solution : Tax the Government


33 posted on 10/11/2013 2:15:44 PM PDT by woofie
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To: dforest

These clowns painted themselves into a corner because they kept making proposals without demanding that Obama/Reid make the next move.

The first move should have been to pass the individual appropriation bills, then demand that Obama and Reid counter. Until they countered with a concrete proposal, just do nothing.

Instead, you have RINOs tripping over themselves to offer up the next compromise without getting any concessions from Obama/Reid. They are negotiating against themselves.

Republicans should be letting the debt ceiling come. The Republicans would have all the leverage on the debt ceiling. If the debt ceiling is reached, it is instant balanced budget time. Obama would be the one wanting a deal, not the Republicans. Obama and his base live off the government trough, and once that spicket is turned off, Obama will be the desparate party.


34 posted on 10/11/2013 2:18:49 PM PDT by mrs9x
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To: jimbo123
This damn little dictator King Obama is a real sick childlike fool. And his dictatorship will destroy America. The GOP is useless. When the first Senator or Representative goes on TV and call King Obama a sick mentally ill and impeachment should start soon I'll return to the GOP. Never happen.
35 posted on 10/11/2013 2:18:55 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Seaplaner

He won’t be speaker after 2014. I think he and his “leadership” dorks have ticked off the conservatives to the point I believe many will just give up again and stay home.

Take care of things locally as much as possible. Many of the Tea Party folks got involved only recently and will go back to thinking “what difference does it make? We vote them in and they stab us in the back.”


36 posted on 10/11/2013 2:21:02 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Park Service employees "following orders" should be SHAMED and SHUNNED!)
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To: dforest

The Dems don’t want to see the GOP go belly up. They’ve invested too much time and effort into learning how to manipulate them to lose all that now. They are useful idots and easy “adversaries” to manage.


37 posted on 10/11/2013 2:21:57 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: MrB

I’ve often had that very thought, especially in regard to “The Theory and Practice of Oligarchial Collectivism”; Orwell’s brilliant critique of Soviet Communism.


38 posted on 10/11/2013 2:22:46 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Toespi

As a retired realtor... you may see in this NBC tweet the same bad news I do:
“Luke RussertVerified account;@LukeRussert
#GOP aide tells me concern is mounting between differing positions on way forward on debt limit b/t Reid and WH.”

Or is it just car salesmen that do the “let me talk to the manager” gag...

Scariest news I’ve seen yet.


39 posted on 10/11/2013 2:24:06 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Amendment10
Based on the title of the article, it seems like Obama met with Republicans just to be able to claim that he met with Republicans but having no intension to compromise with Republicans.

To paraphrase and old joke, what Obama did today was to publically establish the fact that Boehner is a whore... the only thing left to do now is negotiate the price.

40 posted on 10/11/2013 2:25:22 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: jimbo123

Eff the bastard.


41 posted on 10/11/2013 2:26:02 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: mrs9x

Obama and his base live off the government trough, and once that spicket is turned off, Obama will be the desparate party.

*********
You’re making entirely too much sense. The GOP will never accept your logic. The GOP is stuck on stupid.


42 posted on 10/11/2013 2:26:30 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: mrsmith
"Giggle break: House Speaker John Boehner playing with @RepTimGriffin's son"

POLITICO caption: "John Boehner Crushes Heart of Child!"

43 posted on 10/11/2013 2:29:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Tzimisce

keyboard spew alert


44 posted on 10/11/2013 2:31:55 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: jimbo123

keyboard spew alert


45 posted on 10/11/2013 2:32:28 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: jimbo123
Wanna increase the revenue???

Decrease the rates.

You commie pig.

46 posted on 10/11/2013 2:36:03 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: jimbo123

Never try to negotiate with communists, because...


47 posted on 10/11/2013 2:41:45 PM PDT by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: jimbo123

When one starts to surrender-they will continue to do so..


48 posted on 10/11/2013 2:47:58 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: jimbo123

Once again proves we elect people who can’t do basic math. If I cut spending, why do I need more money? Can it be anymore simple than that?

Johnny has five cars that are financed. His credit is maxed out. He’s on a new job and doesn’t earn as much as he did on his former job. His only option is to get rid of one of the cars.

The politicians believe the solution would be to demand his new boss pay him more than his last boss paid him. A lot more! Because Johnny wants to buy another car and he deserves it!


49 posted on 10/11/2013 2:51:48 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: jimbo123

We need cuts in federal funding to state and local governments—not tax increases.


50 posted on 10/11/2013 2:58:26 PM PDT by familyop
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