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Tea Party secedes from Republican Party
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES ^ | October 11, 2013 | Elias Isquith

Posted on 10/11/2013 2:24:32 PM PDT by mdittmar

For nearly 150 years, there was something in America called the Republican Party. It was far from perfect. It made mistakes. But it was predictable; when it was in power, you knew, for the most part, what you were getting.

Cut to now and things look mighty different. The Republican Party today is, as political scholars Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein put it, “an insurgent outlier in American politics . . . ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.” But, to borrow the title of Mann and Ornstein’s recent book, it’s even worse than it looks. There’s the Tea Party and then there’s a rump of spineless moderates. The GOP, quite simply, has been split in two.

This division has been evident for some time, but the recent squabbling over the government shutdown has put the internal discord in sharp relief. We’ve become accustomed to Speaker John Boehner’s flailing attempts to corral his Tea Party faction; and we’ve seen the sad spectacle of this ostensible leader of his party taking his orders almost exclusively from the most harebrained and hard-line members. What’s genuinely new, and far more consequential, is a recent New York Times report finding that even big business — including Wall Street! — is itself unable to force Tea Party members to fall in line.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gope; republicanparty; teaparty; thirdparty
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secede;To withdraw formally from membership in an organization,association,or alliance

New title for the CHICAGO SUN-TIMES

Tea Party is We The People.

1 posted on 10/11/2013 2:24:32 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

I REALLY want to listen/take advice from someone from Chicago. /sarc


2 posted on 10/11/2013 2:27:48 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT! : $70 TRILLION unfunded...)
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To: mdittmar

If only this were true


3 posted on 10/11/2013 2:27:59 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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>> The Tea Party

The Leftwing and RINO’s bogeymen. Two groups working hard to sow division on the Right which is gaining strength.


4 posted on 10/11/2013 2:28:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: mdittmar

Damn! The headline got my hopes up.


5 posted on 10/11/2013 2:29:01 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: mdittmar

The new Republican Party will be called the “Cruzers”.


6 posted on 10/11/2013 2:29:16 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: mdittmar
But it was predictable; when it was in power, you knew, for the most part, what you were getting

Yep, from Lincoln to TR, to Eisenhower, to Reagan, to W - all exactly the same, no evolution of thought or policy. Who needs to know anything about history anyway?

7 posted on 10/11/2013 2:30:00 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: mdittmar

Snarky little article about the tea party that indicates how worried the establishment really is about conservative politicians who care more about their country and maintaining its traditional values than getting re-elected and qualifying for a comfortable federal retirement check after a few terms in office. They don’t know what to make of this, which may be conservatives best weapon. The tea party is not your father’s GOP.


8 posted on 10/11/2013 2:30:32 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: mdittmar

“....The Republican Party today is, as political scholars Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein put it, “an insurgent outlier in American politics . . . ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science;....”

This is just like when unbelievers tell ME about Christianity.


9 posted on 10/11/2013 2:30:51 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: mdittmar

Imagine that. A party that doesn’t take its orders from an ossified leadership and can’t be corralled by Wall Street fat cats. Why, they must be getting their orders from, insert quaking RINO pic here, their constituents!


10 posted on 10/11/2013 2:31:46 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Thom Pain

Actually Mr. Isquith lives in NYC which makes him even more credible with liberals....


11 posted on 10/11/2013 2:32:56 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: mdittmar
Ah, yes...more inflammatory commie propaganda rhetoric to divide the right...their favorite strategy.
12 posted on 10/11/2013 2:33:02 PM PDT by what's up
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To: mdittmar

Boy, the TEA Party sure bugs the left-wing hive a lot more than the Coffee Party ever bothered our side.


13 posted on 10/11/2013 2:33:33 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: mdittmar

Elias Isquith
@eliasisquith

Assistant politics editor @salon

NYC · salon.com/writer

14 posted on 10/11/2013 2:33:49 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: mdittmar
The Republican Party today is, as political scholars Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein put it, “an insurgent outlier in American politics . . . ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”

Project we much...

15 posted on 10/11/2013 2:36:40 PM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: mdittmar

The GOP left us.


16 posted on 10/11/2013 2:36:52 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: mdittmar
From the article:

Even if these organizations lost their funding from wall street or the chamber of commerce, they could rely on donations from the Tea Party base...

So, he's complaining that it's those grass roots hicks that are driving this. I thought this Tea Party stuff was all astro-turfing. Now, I'm really confused.

17 posted on 10/11/2013 2:37:05 PM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: mdittmar

I can think of 16.7 trillion reasons the Tea Party should act up and refuse to cooperate with GOP-e and eventually it will dawn on everybody else.


18 posted on 10/11/2013 2:38:20 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Obama&Admin=An army of deer, led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions led by a deer)
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To: mdittmar

Has anyone ever linked Obamacare to the extreme left (besides us, of course)?


19 posted on 10/11/2013 2:38:30 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: mdittmar

Reality to a liberal is what a chicken sandwich is to an amoeba


20 posted on 10/11/2013 2:39:51 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: j. earl carter

lol. They can’t keep their lies straight.


21 posted on 10/11/2013 2:40:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: j. earl carter
" Now, I'm really confused."

Me too.

Aren't these the same brain surgeons who declared the Tea Party dead 6 or 7 times in the last 3 years?

22 posted on 10/11/2013 2:41:02 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: mdittmar

we do not want or need a third party.

third party is the road to defeat.

we need to kick out the rinos and have mccain and graham and boehner form the whiney party.


23 posted on 10/11/2013 2:42:04 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mdittmar

How can you secede from something you are not a part of? The TEA Party is independent and only has a voice in the Republican Party.

Of course, to the elitists, anyone standing for the Constitutional rule of law is dangerous, radical, uncompromising, ideological, perhaps even a disturbed “whacko bird”.

Nice try Chicago Sun-Times and one reason I give your telemarketing callers a flat out no for a subscription.


24 posted on 10/11/2013 2:42:17 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: mdittmar
But it was predictable....

_________________________

The Republican party is still very predictable....you can count on them to disregard their constituents, and cave on every issue of debate. Oh yes, and call constantly wanting money.

25 posted on 10/11/2013 2:44:32 PM PDT by parthian shot
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To: mdittmar
I didn’t leave the republicans they left me.
26 posted on 10/11/2013 2:45:06 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mdittmar

Interesting, the media ignores that Collectivists have taken over the Dem party and have purged the moderates.


27 posted on 10/11/2013 2:45:36 PM PDT by lurk
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To: mdittmar

The DNC Party (and MSM media) of today are the bomb throwing Communist revolutionaries of 1968. John Kerry, Bill Ayers, et al.

Scumbag traitors.


28 posted on 10/11/2013 2:45:45 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Obamacare is a train wreck but there’s another one coming down the tracks: the $17+ trillion debt. The truth is, nobody knows what to do about this approaching monster. It will devour everything in its path. An economic calamity may be the only thing that will wake the Sheeple up. No one will escape the effects of it.


29 posted on 10/11/2013 2:46:01 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: mdittmar
Guys like this twit are afraid the Tea Party folks will have the grit and determination to take over the Republican Party the same way his fascist pals took over the democrat party. Of course he'd rather see a third party to ensure there's never Republican control of the House and/or Senate again.

Divide and conquer; works for the fascist democrats almost all the time.

30 posted on 10/11/2013 2:46:06 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory)
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To: parthian shot

Oh yes, and call constantly wanting money.

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Good luck with that. Who will donate to these losers? DEFUND the GOP!


31 posted on 10/11/2013 2:48:57 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: mdittmar

Over the years, the spineless establishment Republicans have compromised us all the way past socialism to the brink of communism. There IS no room for significant compromise anymore without handing over our freedom and our property.


32 posted on 10/11/2013 2:49:42 PM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: longtermmemmory

“We do not need a Third Party”

Exactly what is the head count of conservatives in Congress now with an R on their name? 25-30?

Maybe we should leave the R Party and start a new 2nd Party.


33 posted on 10/11/2013 2:56:06 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: mdittmar

Talk about an article basically explaining what they truly are afraid of.


34 posted on 10/11/2013 2:56:34 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Park Service employees "following orders" should be SHAMED and SHUNNED!)
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To: rbmillerjr

I think the count is at least 105


35 posted on 10/11/2013 2:59:10 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: mdittmar

How can someone from the Chicago Sun-Times profess to be an expert on the Republican party when Chicago hasn’t had a Republican mayor since 1931 and is today as solidly Democratic as Detroit, its role model on the road to bankruptcy?

And how can any honest journalist claim that Tea Party Conservatives are an EXTREMIST group when they constitute the majority of the leading party in the House of Representatives, which is the most REPRESENTATIVE body in the federal government?


36 posted on 10/11/2013 2:59:43 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: Thom Pain

Yeh, me too. Take advice from a Chicago Lib? Not on your life. But they are drooling in their beer that this means a split. And they are quite fearful that it might mean, instead, the Waking of the Sleeping Giant.’


37 posted on 10/11/2013 3:02:06 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: kcvl

He looks like he knows a few things about rumps.


38 posted on 10/11/2013 3:02:07 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: mdittmar

I’m actually pretty excited about the idea of a “Tea Party”, but I have heard very little about any concrete concerted efforts to actually organize one at the national level.

As far as I know, the “Tea Party” is more of a movement than an organization.

If ever there was a time for the Tea Party to step up to the next level, it is now... but where does it start?... and has it already, I just havn’t heard of it?


39 posted on 10/11/2013 3:07:20 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Thom Pain

OK What do you want advice on?

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2008/spring/the-nativists?page=0,16

How to get your own personal page on the Southern Poverty Law Center website?

DONE!!

First one is free, your next question you will have to pay for!


40 posted on 10/11/2013 3:08:22 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: mdittmar
“an insurgent outlier in American politics . . . ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”

Sounds like Obama to me.

41 posted on 10/11/2013 3:09:41 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: CMailBag

God Bless America! I left Chicago long enough to go take care of my father in Texas and was able to vote for Cruz!

WooHoo!!


42 posted on 10/11/2013 3:10:06 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: longtermmemmory

Bull $hit......Good Luck!!


43 posted on 10/11/2013 3:11:34 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: faucetman
*This is just like when unbelievers tell ME about Christianity.*

I like the meme where Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka says:

“Please go on and on and tell me about the Bible that you've never read”

;—)

44 posted on 10/11/2013 3:13:06 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: mdittmar

So now adhering to the Constitution is “ideologically extreme.”


45 posted on 10/11/2013 3:15:13 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: mdittmar

Finally, a fair and balanced analysis of the current GOP! /sarc


46 posted on 10/11/2013 3:17:19 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: mdittmar

It’s called revolution, you 50 IQ Chicago ape.


47 posted on 10/11/2013 3:17:23 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: mdittmar

My view is that the Tea Party’s real problem is not establishment Republicans; it’s lack of leadership, money and ground troops. If we can give generously and avoid the circular firing squad, these problems will dissipate.


48 posted on 10/11/2013 3:18:23 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: saganite
*Imagine that. A party that doesn’t take its orders from an ossified leadership and can’t be corralled by Wall Street fat cats. Why, they must be getting their orders from, insert quaking RINO pic here, their constituents!*

The Left has a savage, tribal mentality. The need a leader. They need talking points.

When I tell a Leftist that I didn't get any talking points from anyone they stare in disbelief with a flycatcher mouth and glazed eyes. It's something that they can't comprehend.

The laughable accusations that Rush Limbaugh gives Republican politicians and even citizens “marching orders” is hilarious. They really do not know how to think for themselves. They even sometimes use that very phrase in an argument whilst poll parroting some nonsense that they heard a Socialist/Democrat politician (or worse Bill Maher) say in a grand mal of utter irony.

We Conservatives, for the most part, get information from people and decide to agree or not agree.

49 posted on 10/11/2013 3:20:06 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: mdittmar

HA! They say the Tea Party won’t comprimise! What about their master, Obama? That SOB had straight up kicked out the idea of any comprimise 2 times within this last week.


50 posted on 10/11/2013 3:20:20 PM PDT by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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