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Sources: Ryan Compromise Will Keep Obamacare 'Forever'
Breitbart ^ | 10/11/13 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 10/11/2013 4:24:49 PM PDT by Nachum

Breitbart News reported that House Republicans have offered a new deal to the White House to end the fiscal stalemate. The GOP plan, authored primarily by House Budget Chair Rep. Paul Ryan according to Hill sources, would meet Obama's demands in exchange for negotiations on a longer-term budget agreement.

At least two high-ranking Capitol Hill sources have told Breitbart News that Ryan’s plan would also help protect Obamacare as it is currently implemented.

Ryan's office deny the claims. “What your sources are attempting to attribute to Congressman Ryan is not accurate,” Kevin Seifert, Ryan’s spokesman, said in an email.

But the Capitol Hill conservative sources are adamant Ryan offered at least two things that they say would mitigate some of Obamacare's hardest-hitting effects on certain communities that are needed for the GOP to take the law down in the end.

The high-ranking conservative source said that this deal will ensure America has "Obamacare forever" and that Ryan's "pro union votes are really coming to light now."

At a meeting on Friday morning, the sources said Ryan’s plan was presented to a group of members. Ryan's plan would grant President Barack Obama a no-strings-attached “clean” debt ceiling increase for six weeks and acquiesce to Obama’s latest demand that Republicans also pass a Continuing Resolution to end the partial government shutdown.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: compromise; forever; gop4deathpanels; gop4romneycare; obamacare; romney; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever; romneycare4you; ryan
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I am quits with the GOP if this goes thru.
1 posted on 10/11/2013 4:24:49 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 10/11/2013 4:25:35 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

It’s becoming clear why Romney selecting Paul Ryan for his VP, isn’t it?


3 posted on 10/11/2013 4:26:25 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum

3rd party time.

TEA,Libertarian,Constitutional and all other small groups join forces and destroy the right-wing of the Democrat party, the RINO/GOP.

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4 posted on 10/11/2013 4:26:49 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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5 posted on 10/11/2013 4:27:13 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum

Maybe let it happen, stick the sheeple with Obamacare, and sit back and gloat?


6 posted on 10/11/2013 4:27:23 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Nachum

It’s a done deal.


7 posted on 10/11/2013 4:27:35 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: onyx

PREDICTION:

RINO capitulation , funding obamadeathcare, leads to the base staying home in the mid-terms, RINOGOP lose the House.

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8 posted on 10/11/2013 4:28:01 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Nachum
I am quits with the GOP if this goes thru.

Every time the GOP has stabbed you in the back in the past wasn't enough?

I registered as an Independent back in 2007 and couldn't be happier. Screw the GOP.

9 posted on 10/11/2013 4:28:36 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: onyx

Yep. Ryan is part of ‘the club’.


10 posted on 10/11/2013 4:28:40 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum
Beginning to look like a disinformation campaign but from Whom. Time to name sources.


11 posted on 10/11/2013 4:28:54 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Don’t take my word for it, these are my opinions...Do your own Homework)
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To: Nachum

How come only the things the left wants is “forever” but not even real marriage is forever if the left opposes it??

It is because the Republican Party is a complete failure in everything.


12 posted on 10/11/2013 4:29:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: onyx

The GOP is also going to totally capitulate on immigration, but you can bet they will ask for your vote next year and say “Who else you gonna vote for??”


13 posted on 10/11/2013 4:30:28 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Nachum

The Stupid Party. Now when obamacare fails - and it will - obama and his LSM will blame Ryan and the GOP. What morons.


14 posted on 10/11/2013 4:31:11 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Nachum

So let me get this straight GOP..you guys went through all of this just to give up and surrender Obamacare FOREVER..do these fools not realize that Obamacare is just a short step from the single payer system..do they not get that or do they just not care


15 posted on 10/11/2013 4:32:58 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: South40

Amen.


16 posted on 10/11/2013 4:33:22 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Nachum

Scumbags


17 posted on 10/11/2013 4:33:43 PM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the US Capital and they will come..or we need to drag them to it..)
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To: Nachum
Dammit, RYAN, STOP IT!!
18 posted on 10/11/2013 4:37:21 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Nachum

I am already done with the GOP.


19 posted on 10/11/2013 4:37:34 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Nachum

So far Obama-care signups have been a joke but don’t laugh yet. Once the gimme crowd figures out how to get on board they will be signing up in the millions each week. 0_Care is a natural for the gimme crowd. Something for nothing.

And being they qualify as low low income or no-income (except disability and welfare) they will be getting 0-Care for free. And those funky bronze plans with $6000 deductible? Who exactly will be knocking at their door and demanding (and getting lol lol lol) that $6000 when this Obama voter lands in the hospital for 5 days for diabetes complications, racking up a $100,000 bill?


20 posted on 10/11/2013 4:38:09 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: darkwing104

I call BS on this story. Ryan couldn’t keep that promise if he wanted too. This forum has worked itself into a frenzy over the past couple of days


21 posted on 10/11/2013 4:38:54 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Nachum

and just what are we getting out of this?

obamacare continues
the guvment continues
sequestration discontinues

man, that’s some negotiating team we have there.

i want them to negotiate my next raise! not!


22 posted on 10/11/2013 4:39:42 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Nachum

And at the same time Paul Ryan is working on amnesty for illegal aliens....


23 posted on 10/11/2013 4:43:16 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Nachum

“....Ryan’s plan would also help protect Obamacare as it is currently implemented.”

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Ryan really does not have a dog in the fight against ZeroCare — he is excempted of it.


24 posted on 10/11/2013 4:43:38 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I don't say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Nachum

The GOOBers care more about their “brand” than they do America.


25 posted on 10/11/2013 4:47:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: Nachum; All

On one hand, I’m glad that Briebart reported this story(?), gossip(?), rumors(?), whatever it is, about Rep. Ryan.

On the other hand, unnamed “sources” tend to hurt Breibart’s credibility imo. Did Breibart publish this article, including an ad for Obama guard dog Fx News I notice, for hits?


26 posted on 10/11/2013 4:50:07 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Para-Ord.45

NO, I’m sorry, but there is a third alternative.

Termite the GOP.

I have done it in the past.

Hey, Tea Party novices, you shot at the totempole. You AIMED for mid mass. You MISSED HORRIBLY!

YOU OVERLOOKED THE POLYESTER PEOPLE, FOOLS ALL OF YOU!

I, me, dumb Pollack farmer from the backwash of PA, caused MAJOR HEARTBURN on the state level here in PA. No less than BOB ASHER HIMSELF came to my house to try to make me stop.

Wanna know how I did it?

If you KNOW your voting ward, raise your hand.
If you KNOW your committeeman, committee woman by name, raiser your hand.
If you KNOW your municipal leader by name, raise your hand.
If you KNOW your AREA LEADER by name, RAISE YOUR HAND.

Hey, TEAPARTY, BETCHA DON’T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THOSE!!!

How did I get the entire PA Republican establishment to go into a panic?

I ran CONTESTED RACES FOR THE LOWLIEST ELECTED POSITIONS, THE COMMITTEEMAN/COMMITTEEWOMAN!

The “polyester” people. The ones who live to be wooed by the Ashers and Herrs of PA politics.

One day, they woke up, and there were CHALLENGES for the lowliest spots on the ticket! Committeeperson!!

What the top of the totempole knew was this: The BOTTOM of the totempole ELECTED the AREA LEADER, THE MUNICIPAL LEADER, AND THE STATE COMMITTEE!

Never had a bigger fight in my life.

If you DON’T KNOW what I’m talkin about here, you are just a babe in the woods.


27 posted on 10/11/2013 4:50:50 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Nachum

I hear ya. I am SICK of them cutting deals to gut America and keeps us forever as slaves of the STATE. The deals they cut, won’t effect them, their children, their grandchildren like it will effect us.

I did a lot of thinking after the last election and realized the GOP-e is the same as the Dems, and after 30 years, took myself off of the GOP rolls.

And my two Senators, especially McShamnesty, loves to give us the finger. Juan might as well switch parties to Dem. He’s over on their side of the aisle screwing us anyways. What the heck happened to that guy? They are so out of touch with the “little people”.


28 posted on 10/11/2013 4:52:06 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Nachum

I am totally over Paul Ryan. He is just like Cantor and McCarthy. Sadly they all need to go. Sean Hannity is right the whole leadership needs to be replaced.


29 posted on 10/11/2013 4:52:49 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Hey Paul, I’m still trying to find a dang job like many other poor Americans. To heck with the Illegal Immigrant.


30 posted on 10/11/2013 4:53:41 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Nachum


31 posted on 10/11/2013 4:54:01 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Nachum

is george kastanza negotiating for us??


33 posted on 10/11/2013 4:57:29 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Nachum

I am holding judgment until we get the names of the sources. I will be livid if this is true, but not in total shock.


34 posted on 10/11/2013 4:59:08 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (REMOVE ALL EXEMPTIONS, EXCEPTIONS, AND WAIVERS TO OBAMACARE)
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To: Nachum

The Israelis got a deal like that. Ask them how it worked out.


35 posted on 10/11/2013 5:00:05 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: GeronL
It is because the Republican Party is a complete failure in everything.

Ostensibly, yes. But I think that we must now conclude that it is not a failure. It is successful in its hidden purpose--as a vehicle to coral conservatives onto the plantation and to enact the socialist agenda. To restore the Republic, or even any semblance, the Republican Party must die.

36 posted on 10/11/2013 5:00:44 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Nachum

From the looks of things, Obamacare is going to be dead on arrival. People think they’re getting a good deal with a “tax” of 1% of their income...and...’cept next year (2015)...that premium will be 2.5% of their income.


37 posted on 10/11/2013 5:01:14 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Nachum

These people are damned fools. These people are supposedly in the know, and representatives of we the people, and they don’t know the simplist rules of all being you NEVER negotiate with a Democrat. You NEVER accept the word of a Democrat, and think seriously that they will keep their word. NOT in this World.

Idiots all!


38 posted on 10/11/2013 5:01:30 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Nachum
Ryan has sat back and followed the leader for all this time since he and Romney lost, but he chooses now when conservatives like Cruz might actually do some good for conservatives, to stick his head up and start speaking? He could have continued to lay low, at least, but no, he picks now to seek the limelight.
39 posted on 10/11/2013 5:02:17 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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he’s setting himself to be a media darling so he can push through amnesty and destroy the country once and for all ...FUPR POS


40 posted on 10/11/2013 5:04:52 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: Nachum

God, I hate that scumbag POS Ryan with a passion. Pushing amnesty, embracing homo adoption. Now apparently capitulating to Obama to clear the way for that amnesty. Damn him to hell. Putting Ryan on the ticket to appease ‘conservatives’ was a blatant con job by the GOP-E, and Romney’s consultant trash like Madden and Stevens. They refused to even let the words “tea party” be uttered at the convention, and endlessly cozied up to their lib media buddies to trash Palin. Burn in hell, you bastards!

Not a day seems to pass when I’m not downright relieved that I refused to give Romney/Ryan my vote. First GOP candidates to not get my vote in my entire voting life! Left the damned ballot blank. Ryan/Romney/Rove/Rubio... they can all go crawl in a hole and die!


41 posted on 10/11/2013 5:05:59 PM PDT by greene66
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To: ConradofMontferrat

YUP...what YOU said!


42 posted on 10/11/2013 5:10:45 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: thestob

Even though everyone’s been focused on the ongoing issue of the day, every now and then a little snippet comes out about amnesty.

I’m thinking that a vote on amnesty is going to be the big ‘Kumbaya’ moment - the Dems and RINO’s and the GOPe can vote it in, and have a nice big hand-holding, guitar-strumming photo op when Obama signs it into law.

And I have a feeling that’s coming soon. Before the end of this year.


43 posted on 10/11/2013 5:14:13 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Nachum

So is Ryan’s office lying or is it the unnamed sources? Is this yet another ploy to maintain a platform of “Vote for me so I can kill Obamacare” for all eternity?


44 posted on 10/11/2013 5:16:19 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

bttt


45 posted on 10/11/2013 5:17:58 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

...and if they do I would almost guarantee a Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid in 2014 and then god knows what would happen with Obama not having to face reelection


46 posted on 10/11/2013 5:20:03 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: Nachum

Time for the good citizens of the badger state to kick this RINO into the gutter. Even Zablocki, a democrat, was 10 times more conservative than this GOPe rat traitor.


47 posted on 10/11/2013 5:20:05 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Diogenesis

48 posted on 10/11/2013 5:21:02 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Mark Levin himself sees the futility of the GOP and is now down to the Article 5 Hail-Mary.That too will fail.

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If ALL the small Conservative parties join forces they can disembowel the GOP forever.


49 posted on 10/11/2013 5:23:52 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: thestob

I totally agree.


50 posted on 10/11/2013 5:24:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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