Posted on 10/11/2013 5:28:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai
President Barack Obama on Friday rejected a critical part of the House Republicans latest proposal to extend the federal debt ceiling, which linked a short-term increase to further negotiations on the budget, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.
It is our view that we cannot have a situation where the debt ceiling is extended as part of a budget negotiation process for only six weeks, which would put us right back in the same position that were in now, Carney told reporters in a briefing at the White House.
A proposal that puts a debt-ceiling increase at only six weeks, tied to budget negotiations, would put us right back where we are today in just six weeks, on the verge of Thanksgiving and the obviously important shopping season leading up to the holidays, he said. And that would create enormous uncertainty for our economy.
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Well, how about POS. You gonna negotiate or not? What a moron.
It sounds as though the eGOOBs didn’t lick hard enough today.
I would be perfectly willing to give him 6 months provided we have guarantees that no gun control or immigration reform bills come up between now and then. that’s just me though.
LOL!
just send paul ryan over there and tell him to bend over again...he has no problem doing that ...AMNESTY WHORE POS
I’m thinking a good solid bitch slap would have snapped him out of his messiah complex.
Barry will hold out and the GOP will capitulate completely.
THAT is a guarantee .
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I think I see what Obama’s endgame is.
He’s trying to force Boehner into passing legislation by suspending the ‘Hastert Rule’, specifically, a ‘clean’ continuing resolution/debt ceiling hike.
If Obama can force that, it’s game over for Boehner and the GOP leadership once and for all.
PS:
When GOP capitulates 100% watch the base stay home in the mid-terms and the RINOs lose the House.
Lucy.....football..
I'm so sick of these liars.
As most here know, there is no danger of default. Carney, just like his boss and most of DC and the media that covers them, is a liar.
They are all liars. And they control our lives and they are fixing to control our children's lives.
WE have TEA PARTY candidates, by the millions...to replace the RINO’s, American Citizens loyal to the Constitution all.
Drudge headline says Obama wants fully funded Obamacare, raise the debt ceiling, reopen the Gov’t and eliminate the sequester cuts. I guess he thinks the Pubbies will capitulate. I’m sick.
LOL. Or didn’t bend over far enough.
Yep. It’s like death and taxes.
When Reagan took office in 1981, the sentiment about the USSR was that it was the inexorable expression of the will of history. It had to be dealt with as a natural fact. Reagan had another view - “We win, they lose.” He stood up to the Soviets on all levels and faced them down. I figure that Congress, with just ten percent of Reagan’s resolve, could face down the community organizer/agitator.
A six week extension is a whole lot better for him than none.
It’s all the Republican House members are willing to give him, and if the Senate Republicans don’t ride to his rescue Saturday it’s all he’s gonna get.
When Reagan took office in 1981, the sentiment about the USSR was that it was the inexorable expression of the will of history. It had to be dealt with as a natural fact. Reagan had another view - “We win, they lose.” He stood up to the Soviets on all levels and faced them down. I figure that Congress, with just ten percent of Reagan’s resolve, could face down the community organizer/agitator.
I don't say that Boehner is a bad person, but he's inept beyond inept, and (as nearly as I can tell) he can't think one move ahead, and he doesn't care for preparation or homework. (Corrections invited)
IIRC, we got the sequester-based screwing of our military thanks to Mister Boehner's inabilities; and there was never any reason to think that HE could think any more clearly in a second term as SOH.
I welcome challenges to my opinion (even if your name is Boehner).
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You’re right but if I were the Speaker I would move on to other business until the President and Senate want to work within Constitutional boundaries. What was the latest news about our education system; that American adults are dumb as rocks. Listen to Nancy Pelosi, she is the perfect example of “Idiocracy” (the movie) and proves this claim to be true. Maybe Congress should take aim at the education systems; get rid of social and politically correct crap and go back to basics.
I reject Hussein.
Get Saudi Arabia to straighten the B0z0 out.
I’m not. I’d take enron stock with a promise of payment over a Obama promise.
Bingo; plus the aftermath will sink ANY GOPe POTUS candidate in 2016.
The GOPe has no idea how they are between the rock (Dingy/0bama) and the hard place (po'd TEA Partiers).
bttt
It’s actually funny.
The GOP is trying to sell us out and Obama won’t let them.
The press would never admit that, funny enough.
Inept is appropriate ... but even more damning he's the quintrssrntial Washington insider. A fat cat that has enjoyed the perks of office far too long and comes across as resenting his leadership role because it thrusts him into the spotlight exposing his incompetence. Boehner needs to go ... no question.
Actually Boehner may grant a three month extension to get the issue past the holidays.
This would require the Senate Republicans to block Harry’s ‘rule’ for his debt limit bill tomorrow.
Then House Dems must vote to pass the three month extension.
He cannot get R support for that long.
To get the conservatives to let him do this deal Boehner will have to agree to stick to the CR/Obamacare fight and minibill strategy- no matter what the Senate Republicans do- or something of equal value to them.
That is what I have been thinking every time Obama rejects their many offers to cave. lol! I heard Romney on Fox the other night and they asked him what he regreted in his campaign. He said “Not reaching out enough to Hispanics and being more inclusive. There you have it. We are nobody and amnesty will give them their voters to replace us. That is why we get tossed a few crumbs but not taken seriously.
Obama smells blood in the water. He won't settle for 100%. He will go after 130%. He will want immigration reform + more spending. Obama is several moves after of Boehner. Obama wants an immigration bill to pave the way for more 2014 election fraud.
It would seem so......Keep praying.
I hope he never moves on to other business. Any business passed by Congress and signed by BO will add to regulations or new gov’t programs—I wish they would delay Obamacare AND go home.
Most likely the gop will capitulate. Less because they are cowards, but because they agree.
Let it HAPPEN! Let the damnable government spend right up to the debt limit, and challenge the a$$clown in the WhiteHut to a showdown. Keep the message out to the people...
The pubbies have passed a CR to keep the government open. The dhimmicraps refuse to consider it.
The pubbies in the House have NO OBLIGATION to raise the debt ceiling.
The outcome of hitting the debt ceiling SHOULD be that FedGov is immediately forced to live within its means, and prioritize outgoing payments. The gubmint gets about $220 billion EVERY month in revenues. Currently the debt service is $24 Billion. That’s manageable. Upcoming redemptions are a different story. In recent times, it appears, the gubmint has been rolling the redemptions to new debt. Without an increased debt limit, that won’t happen, so another alternative needs to be undertaken.
The down side, here, is that Zero and 0bamunists get to decide what gets paid...
The dhimmicraps are the hold up on this stuff, but I’m all for letting the debt ceiling remain where it is and let’s see what happens. It’s insanity to keep raising it. We will never repay all of it, anyway. Let’s stop the madness, deal with the fallout, and move forward.
Well. I been saying this and getting flamed but I get emails from Freepers to intimidated by the frenzy on this board . The shutdown was a stupid idea. The public doesn’t like them. Obama owns the media...we don’t after a few days if The One smacking us around from the bully pulpit....ever wonder why they call it that? And the media painting us as extremists...the low info voters are tuning on us with a vengeance. Keep it up and we’ll be saying hello Speaker Pelosi. ...now it’s the whip hand of Valerie Jarrett and Obama calling the shots. Best we’ll get out of this is some means testing on Medicare and take away if the medical devises tax. We could if had those for free. Good job guys.
There have been so many different headlines at different times today that I can't tell where we are anymore.
Drudge's current headline has us already sold down the river by Paul Ryan: "opening" the gubmint, raising the debt ceiling, backing Obamacare, and swishing down the aisle with Obama like just another homo wedding.
Is that just more b.s.?
Obama is in default. He has almost doubled the national debt in almost 5 years. Let him choke on it...
We still have hope....I'm sorry you don't!
Threat or a promise?
I’m glad he rejected it. Gasoline is down to 2.99 and headed lower. When it gets back down to 1.00/gal, then he can reopen the government. Although he should keep the EPA in shutdown mode.
..Stay the course...keep praying
By ‘POS’, do you mean President of Sodom ?
Heh. Depends on your point of view, I suppose.
I think what Obama is doing is manuevering Boehner into an impossible position, a situation where Boehner will feel he simply has no choice but to suspend the ‘Hastert Rule’ and do the clean votes.
Probably be the last thing he does as Speaker of the House, and I’m sure he knows that as well. And he’s probably to hold off doing it until the last possible moment.
So, you're solution is shut-up, sit down, don't fight, go along to get along and be thankful for the crumbs that fall from the Democrat table?
Sorry, but that's what it sounds like...
Carson / Palin 2016!
I can’t say I disagree with you; my point was that since perceptions are everything; if they are seen trying to do normal business while waiting for POTUS and the Senate to do something other than making speeches (words just words).
You know what really needs to happen is to bankrupt the lame-stream media; put them out on the street out of business. We don’t need more fiction; we need facts and truth. This President will go down in history as they very worst we ever had; there is absolutely nothing good or decent about the man.
Boehner’s position as Speaker of the House is the least of our problems.
Using private emails is a good way to hide. Private emails on subjects of discussion are, at best, inappropriate and useless. I ignore them unless they are of a private nature.
The shutdown is a disaster if we fold.
Amazingly we haven’t yet. Astonishingly the Senate Republicans haven’t stabbed us in the back yet.
It’s not over, yet.
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