Posted on 10/12/2013 5:49:46 AM PDT by rhema
On a cold morning this past January in Gresham, Oregon, Aaron Klein sat down with two customers at the bakery he owned with his wife, Sweet Cakes by Melissa. The two women, a bride and her mother, were making plans to purchase a wedding cake. Before discussing the details, Klein asked his customers a few standard questions. When would the wedding be? What was the groom’s name? At the second question, there was an awkward hesitation, and the mother explained that this would be a wedding between two brides. Klein politely but firmly told them that because of his and his wife’s Christian beliefs, they would not bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. Without a word, the bride and her mother got up and left.
About ten minutes later, the bride’s mother returned to the bakery and began to debate Klein using biblical references to claim that her daughter was created that way and there was nothing wrong with her marriage. Klein was firm, asserting that he would not be involved in a lesbian wedding. When he refused to back down, the woman left. About two weeks later, Klein received a complaint letter and an official investigation notice from the Oregon Department of Justice.
It wasn’t long before the Kleins’ story hit national media. They faced waves of harassment from gay rights sympathizers in the forms of mail, picketing, and social media pages dedicated solely toward boycotting their business.
They received death threats against their children. LGBT groups targeted other wedding vendors in the Gresham area, threatening to boycott them as well if they continued or agreed to do business with Sweet Cakes by Melissa.
“People would keep calling [other wedding vendors] until they stopped doing business with us. It’s racketeering is what it is,” Aaron Klein told
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Though the Kleins’ story has mostly faded from the news for now, their fight is long from over. As they and other wedding vendors face discrimination accusations and struggle to defend their faith, likely in rising numbers with the end of DOMA, it’s important to remember the true meaning of tolerance and acceptance—and it’s not the definition the LGBT community preaches.
Call it the Creampuff Crusades.
Oh I’d bake it or them. I might add in a few secret ingredients though...: )
LOL. You beat me to it.
Christians beware. From Oregon to Washington D.C, and from Massachusetts to New Mexico, a pink curtain is descending across the country.
LOL
Its not pink...
Its lavender...
Sadly, the only way to handle this, under rational courts again rule, is by diversion and obfuscation. When asked to do such a cake, the cakemaker should simply reject the order for some other reason: overbooked calendar, time off, personal work load preference, that kind of thing as it fits.
Take all cakes on application and approval. Always let the customer know that an answer will be based on compiling all orders for a particular time and responding based on your calendar and ability. Always reject orders based on time, inability, work load, etc.
"Ummm -- well, what else would it taste like, dude?"
Soon, very soon the radical fascists on the left will be taking us out to the desert to rid the country of Tea Party people and Christians, and we will smile all the while...
We should have a buycott of this business and buy everything they make.
Picture a nice big chocolate wedding cake made with Ex-Lax for a special treat.
Here’s the deal. They don’t want us to agree with them and comply. This is simply gay bullying because they have Daddy Gaywad in the WH right now and thinks everyone has their back. Its actually fun for them. Rather than put up a fuss and giving them what they want act like you’re going along with them but have your own little fun. They want you to bake them a cake you have to lean out the cat’s litter box right and bake a cake well combine the two activities. Say they want to rent from you. You “accidentally” spilled some sugar inside and ants are pouring in the house...you get my drift. There’s ways to fight fire with fire...
“Hey — this cake tastes like crap!”
“Ummm — well, what else would it taste like, dude?”
Well they would know what it tastes like alright...: )
Here’s the deal. They don’t want us to agree with them and comply. This is simply gay bullying because they have Daddy Gaywad in the WH right now and thinks everyone has their back. Its actually fun for them. Rather than put up a fuss and giving them what they want act like you’re going along with them but have your own little fun. They want you to bake them a cake you have to clean out the cat’s litter box right well combine the two activities. Say they want to rent from you. You “accidentally” spilled some sugar inside and ants are pouring in the house...you get my drift. There’s ways to fight fire with fire...
If this was a Muslim bakery that refused it would be a different story. Which side would they sport then? Which Victim would win?
If the mother was not, the problem is not
The short term answer is obviously to withhold the truth. You cannot speak honestly to someone when declining their business, not in the country that our United States has now become. Accept whatever diversity drivel you hear and then, at some later point that day, a week later, or the day before the wedding, plead a conflict, personal crisis, or whatever to regretfully cancel. There is a time and a place for everything, but when you are vulnerable to Gestapo tactics is not the time to explain that decent people neither celebrate perversion nor directly enable such celebrations.
The long term answer is to fix our laws. Physical violence against gays because they are gay is bad, just as bad as the legal violence against Christians that these activists are initiating. However, we have an absolute right as free people to refuse service to any potential customer for any reason or without reason. We need to reclaim that human right as a legal right. We also need to reclaim that human right as a practical right, in part by shunning those who engage is gay-activist blackmail and related abuses of the legal system. It’s time for decent people to permanently boycott those who support slavery and the use of government force to compel involuntary servitude.
isn’t it sad that we have come to this in America? We are so doomed...
Picture the lawsuit and possible jail time.
Taste the rainbow....
Wonderful people these cross wires—instead of going to bakery that will bake a damn cake for their little ceremony, they’d rather force all to comply! You must comply!!
Rat-hole sh*t-heads.
Make the cake..... drive to the wedding..... when taking it out of vehicle.... Opps! It fall down go boom...Loose money, yes... Seeing their faces... priceless...
“People would keep calling [other wedding vendors] until they stopped doing business with us. It’s racketeering...
Nice to see LBBT types are tolerant of people who are different than they are... /s
Sounds reminiscent of the old-time “protection racket” that gangsters used to run. I swear to God, if any of these disease-ridden perverts tried this on me, I’d pull the trigger on them.
What’s needed is a standby BAD Christian who will drag the devil by her eyesockets out into the snow, break off a broomstick and make her into an LGBT scarecrow.
You don’t have to bake their cake, it’s a contract not slavery. People can pick and choose if they want to work on a project or not.
I’d bake ‘em a cake ... a Mexican sheetcake! (They’d probably rave about it.)
The culinary arts have become a gay industry - just check out the Food Network if you doubt me. No straight men and women need apply.
I took real offense when I was a tax accountant when someone changed to another tax preparer because of the political party I was a member of. How spiteful! How mean! And how sad, too. American used to be better.
I stand corrected.
LOL
I would have said that you couldn’t do the cake on that day. You found out after you asked the date that it was a lesbian wedding. I would have excused myself and told them, I have to check the calendar to see if we are available on that date. Then I would have come back and said, sorry. We can’t do the cake we have prior engagements.
That is how you handle it....just make sure you are not open on that date, prior engagement could be anything, like a mental health day to stay home, family get together, etc.
Ask the date, groom or bride’s name, then check your calendar...in that order.
Yep, exactly how to handle. Do not commit to any dates via phone. Tell them they have to fill out an application with date, name of groom and bride. More then one way to skin a cat...
My thoughts exactly. A little syrup of ipecac would make for a festive wedding cake and interesting wedding reception.
The mother tried to use the Word of God against this Christian baker. As you know, the devil twisted the Word against Adam and Eve and against Jesus.
Yep. Can even have an online application.
Insist on a firm, confirmed wedding date with proof of same from reception hall.
That way they can’t come back with, “Well, we’ll switch to such and such a date?”
And if they do that anyway, then the response is that a new application has to be filled out and no responses can be given until all are compiled.
I can only laugh at those who try to twist the bible into supporting homosexuality.
There simply is no case to be made.
Their best case is to go with those who toss out most books of the bible or those who toss the whole thing out. Because, if they go with what’s there, only an illiterate could come to a pro-homosexual conclusion.
This exactly the right way to do it. Take the order information and then respond based on scheduling demands.
Oregon is a microcosm of what has ruined America. The Persons Republic of Eugene has the votes and rules the entire state.
Eugene has a huge population of Libtards and queers beyond counting. Not surprisingly, Eugene and Big Sh*ty activists across America, are forcing queer politics on the non-queer population.
Eventually, the public will either arise and expel or kill off those who continually anger them OR America will become a hollow shell of what it once was.
ANgela Merkel understood when she said “Multi-culti ist tod.”
Either multi-culturalism (and ‘diverse perversion’) dies or America dies. The Germans understand the looming risk.
Do we?
Tomorrow does not look good.
There is no way in hell a G&d D@#n democrat is going to do my taxes and I don't patronize a business if I find out a democrat owns it.
Or a homo.
I love it when they put out political signs, and rainbow flags. Makes it easier to spot them and move on.
Perhaps I agree with your approach.
Take the order politely.
Lose the order, or create an unacceptable delay, or bake a shitty cake or a poorly decorated one, or show up with a dozen donuts because the order got mixed up, or trip walking in with it, or lose the delivery address.
Refund the money politely.
But better yet, bakeries who don’t want this business should stop doing it in general: “Sorry, we no longer do weddings.” Let wedding cakes become a task for the involved families to create.
Bands who don’t want to do gay weddings can stop doing weddings - let that be the responsibility of someone else. Same with photographers.
Two people, humbly standing before God and perhaps a few other witnesses, taking a vow of marriage - this should be the focus. It should be the only focus. The rest is fluff, often bordering on sacrilege in these times.
These vows, taken before God, families and perhaps a few others, ARE the wedding, they literally ARE the marriage that is being created. The rest is mere distraction. The solemnity of what one is vowing should not be distracted from with all the narcissistic and cultural crap that has come to create this social monster.
If clergy are sued or imprisoned because, out of conscience, they refuse to administer the vows to gays, that is a hill worth dying on. But I just can’t get worked up over the rest of this pre-wedding, wedding, and post-wedding turmoil.
I’ve pretty much run off any so called friends who are liberal....don’t miss them at all. Tired of their idiotic pap and sh!ty attitude....liberals for the most part are very angry people. My wife was upset at first but realizes now a lot of drama has left our lives. Some were relatives!!
Bingo!!! We have a winner!!!
That’s illegal, but onion and garlic powder are valid food products that can be used. At any rate this story was hashed over on FR many times and can be searched out. I guess the American Spectator’s author is behind the times, the referred to article is new.
When people get over their PC thinking and start mocking the homos back into the shadows with ugly humor and slurs the LGBT crowd will continue this. Are you aware that it is LGBT History Month in your public schools.
When will people rise up and start civil disobedience to roll this all back. Look in the mirrors Freepers, because this has been going on for decades. If you are > 50 years old, it is *your* fault.
oh for an edit button....
“When people get over their PC thinking and start mocking the homos back into the shadows with ugly humor and slurs the LGBT crowd will continue this. “
should be
“Until people get over their PC thinking and start mocking the homos back into the shadows with ugly humor and slurs the LGBT crowd will continue this. “
"Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might..." - Ecclesiastes 9:10
Accepting someone's money and then cheating them with poor work is not an option for a Christian or any other person who holds to moral values. The choice is between taking the job and doing it well, or not taking the job to begin with. What I admire most about bakery owners Aaron and Melissa Klein is their courage and honesty in this case. It would have been easier and "safer" to deny their convictions with a phony excuse, but they honored their Creator by standing up for His Truth in their lives and in their business.
Whom to fear, and whom to honor? All tyrants die and turn to dust, but the Living God reigns forever. God bless the Kleins!
Bullying involves embarrassment and intimidation. The answer of the baker should have been “Please don’t try to intimidate me. I would be embarrassed to make that type of cake.” And if that answer was answered with more anger and accusations rather then tolerance for diversity of thought, then the baker says “This is sexual harassment and I will will sue you for sexual harassment if you keep trying to intimidate me into doing something that will embarrass and demoralize me.” I am sure these same bakers, as Christians, also don’t bake cakes shaped like private body parts because they are Christians and it would be against their values. And being forced to do and go against their values would embarrass and demoralize them.
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