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Paul Ryan Flashes Anger at Senate Republicans
National Review Online ^ | October 12, 2013 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 10/12/2013 7:42:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends
“We need Senate Republicans to stand up and stand firm,” Cantor said, according to a person in the room.

Boehner said that in talks between the two sides, Obama had agreed to nothing and said the House would be holding its position for now.

Once that door is opened to "caving," this is what you get.

McCain and the White Flag quislings are all happy now.

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41 posted on 10/12/2013 8:21:29 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: navymom1

Paul Ryan was a stronger conservative when he was Romney’s running mate. Was that a lie then too?

Not a lie, he just seemed a stronger conservative next to Romney!

42 posted on 10/12/2013 8:27:04 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One group Paul Ryan never seems to get angry with is his “Democratic friends.” Remember how his mentor Jack French Kemp used the term “our Demmocratic friends” ad nauseum.

43 posted on 10/12/2013 8:27:24 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: txrangerette
This is quite ironic. The feared cavers-in of the House GOP are mad at the Senate cavers-in for raising the anti.

If I were on the other side, I would be laughing at the hapless Republican politicians.

Obama and Reid have maintained their position at a solid "no compromise".

The Republican surrender monkeys are fighting with each other to see who can sell out the most or the quickest.
What a pitiful bunch, begging to be allowed to give up.

44 posted on 10/12/2013 8:27:44 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
From now on, we support Tea Party candidates ONLY.

Yeah. Enough is enough. There's no one in Washington willing to protect or even speak up for the tax payers - those who are being used as slaves so everyone else can live a relaxing, comfortable life (especially the elite politicians. They like their limousines, mansions, and caviar brunches).

45 posted on 10/12/2013 8:31:17 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Methinks the House-cavers are pissed because it appears the Senate-cavers may cave before them.

46 posted on 10/12/2013 8:31:41 AM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: bert

“...The yankees are far more European than American, all of them...”

Which is why I moved outta there many, many years ago...they’re not even good Europeans...not even good communists, for that matter. Luke-warm, wishy-washy wimps IMHO.
To quote the great, late Davy Crockett: “You may all go to hell, I’m going to Texas!”
Never looked back and glad for it.

47 posted on 10/12/2013 8:35:34 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
However, before the shooting actually starts, it looks as if we may suffer under one-party rule for a while while things get sorted out and until Civil war II begins. "How long a while?" That is the only operative question.

I have a little different take. I think the path we are on will lead to the same outcomes they saw in Argentina. Most people don't know that Argentina in the early 1900's had a per capita income equal to that of Germany and their economy was growing at a faster rate. However 100 years later German living standards are more than double that of Argentina. What happened?

See if this sounds like the USA today. Argentina was very dependent on it's agriculture internally and for exporting. The school system was terrible and over 20% of Buenos Airies population was illiterate. After WWII the demand for their agriculture products dropped and their workforce could not adapt to newer industries. In response the public supported Peron and the collectivists followed a path of fascism creating a huge welfare state in the process. Economic decline accelerated and the poor who wanted to be richer could only do so by taking wealth away from the shrinking group of entrepeneurs and wealthy.

I think this is the trend in the USA and surrendering on obamacare will guarantee this end. I quess I should be happy I won't see the end result, but my future grandchildren will and that is why I'm mad.

48 posted on 10/12/2013 8:36:40 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

Ryan worked for and models himself after Jack Kemp. Kemp was the happy warrior who mistakenly believed that supply side economics would trump all.

Ryan, like Kemp, fails to recognize there’s a crony capitalist class and a welfare class, neither of which believes in limited government and low taxes.

49 posted on 10/12/2013 8:39:58 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Tagline copyright in violation of Directive 10-289)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obamacare is part of the grand strategy to seize power completely. First, Obamacare must be implemented with no changes. Obama needs the Republicans to cave so that the next phase can be completed. The next phase is for the Republicans to cave on Immigration Reform so that Obamacare can be given to 30 million illegal aliens. Audios freedom for decades.

At least some people are starting to understand that their premiums are being jacked up to pay for someone else's health care. What they don't understand - yet - is that those jacked up premiums are also going to take care of illegal aliens.

Republicans who are weak still don't understand that by caving they are acting against their own self interests and that they imperil the future and freedom of their own families and friends.

50 posted on 10/12/2013 8:40:23 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thank you

It sure does put a light on why one of the supposed young turks in the Pub party appears to be trying to shift the fight from obamacare to better management of big govt.

51 posted on 10/12/2013 8:41:20 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

Ryan’s plan exchanges Obama’s silly and punitive hissy-fit cuts (closing parks, shutting down gov websites) for long-term entitlement reform and re-writing the tax code.

It’s exchanging a small can of potted meat with prime rib.

But, you say, it doesn’t get rid of Obamacare, the monster sitting at your front door.

No. Maybe a concession (medical device tax, delay till the website works), but no defunding. The monster sits there, growling.

The reality is that without enough Senators to overrule a Presidential veto, Obamacare cannot be defunded at the moment. You need to get rid of the monster, but you need a weapon with enough power to kill him, not just make him mad.

That happens next year, if all the whiners can see the big picture. Take permanent entitlement cuts and revision of the tax code today, take the Senate next fall.

Let that Obamacare website get up and working. Right now, it’s a joke. When it’s working and people see how it affects them, it will be a nightmare.

I may not like Boehner or Cantor or others in House leadership, but giving up seniority and majority would be suicidal stupidity.

Ryan is a pragmatist and a good guy. I will never agree with him, or any politician, on everything, but we must quit eating our own if we hope to rescue this country.

The 2014 elections are critical. Opponents of this administration must stop bickering and trying to destroy one another, or we are all doomed.

52 posted on 10/12/2013 8:42:42 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Enterprise
"Obamacare is part of the grand strategy to seize power completely."

Wouldn't it be grand if th GOP had a health care plan to replace Obamacare incorporating a way to eliminate free health care for uninsured.

53 posted on 10/12/2013 8:48:01 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I appreciate Ryan finally emerging to help end this standoff, but the biggest problem with the House's approach is that he is seeking another 6 week or so extension, which puts the nation right back into "crisis" mode with another self imposed "cliff" right before Thanksgiving.

The Senate disagrees with that, and so do I.

End these constant "crisis-es" every 6 weeks, or 3 months! Stop this.

It is bad for our country, and for our economy.

For Pete's sake, the House had months to go to Conference after the Senate passed a budget last Spring. They did nothing. Then Congress went on a 5 1/2 week "vacation" last August and September, knowing full well they had this mess on 1 Oct.

Enough of this garbage.

54 posted on 10/12/2013 8:48:07 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: wmfights
My mistake. It seems he's more of a "go along get along" type Pub.

Just looked up his voting record, Ryan voted for the $700 billion bank bailout, the biggest Medicare expansion in U.S. history, a massive highway bill that included the “Bridge to Nowhere” and the Obama 987B stimulus bill!

Read more:

55 posted on 10/12/2013 8:49:31 AM PDT by thirst4truth (
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To: wmfights
Forget winning the Senate and after immigration reform forget winning the Presidency.

With this sentiment its almost easy to sit back and let it all go down, I mean it. Keep spending, keep giving free stuff to illegals and to those who refuse to work and let them eventually really find out what it is like when there is no government left to turn to.

How long do you think it will take? How many more trillions do they have to print, borrow and spend before it is over and collapses?

56 posted on 10/12/2013 8:57:43 AM PDT by thirst4truth (
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To: FrdmLvr

“This unwillingness of the principled to call a spade a spade is part of the problem.”


57 posted on 10/12/2013 8:59:08 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: FrdmLvr

Yes it is and is why we have a communist in the Whitehouse now!

58 posted on 10/12/2013 9:02:08 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Jedidah

Yes, but we are now choking on pragmatists. Any more of it is a step up into the trains.

Many must be suffering from this new fangled label called “normalcy bias”, a blinder to impending danger.

The clock has run out on these jocks for compromise and endless peace at any price. To hell with that.

Ryan is an affable cull, but he is a cull and he’s proven it, on not a few critical occasions.

59 posted on 10/12/2013 9:03:16 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: SkyPilot


Under previous administrations, I do not recall a new budget crisis every 2 months.

Of course, these are ‘manufactured crises’ and, thus, make for good detractors.



Fast & Furious?

It is a 3 or 4 ring circus of distractions: Dems fighting Pubbies who are fighting Pubbies who are fighting Obama. And then they all got out for drinks and comradery after a hard day of partisanship.

60 posted on 10/12/2013 9:03:51 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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