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To: Cincinatus' Wife; xzins; P-Marlowe
I think one of the most disappointing things about the Pubs in this fight is Paul Ryan. I've had nothing but respect for him till now. He comes out with that op-ed in the NY Times and says nothing about obamacare. He goes back to entitlement reform and tax reform.

I always thought Paul Ryan was a supporter of the Tea Party and the principals we fight for. My mistake. It seems he's more of a "go along get along" type Pub.

12 posted on 10/12/2013 7:53:51 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

Paul Ryan was a stronger conservative when he was Romney’s running mate. Was that a lie then too?


16 posted on 10/12/2013 7:57:46 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: wmfights
.....I always thought Paul Ryan was a supporter of the Tea Party and the principals we fight for. My mistake. It seems he's more of a "go along get along" type Pub.

I think he's always been that way - Romney saw it. Ryan's wife comes from a political family (dems) so they're marinated in "how it's done" in order to have a long "distinguished" career.

17 posted on 10/12/2013 7:57:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Ryan worked for and models himself after Jack Kemp. Kemp was the happy warrior who mistakenly believed that supply side economics would trump all.

Ryan, like Kemp, fails to recognize there’s a crony capitalist class and a welfare class, neither of which believes in limited government and low taxes.


49 posted on 10/12/2013 8:39:58 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Tagline copyright in violation of Directive 10-289)
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To: wmfights

Ryan’s plan exchanges Obama’s silly and punitive hissy-fit cuts (closing parks, shutting down gov websites) for long-term entitlement reform and re-writing the tax code.

It’s exchanging a small can of potted meat with prime rib.

But, you say, it doesn’t get rid of Obamacare, the monster sitting at your front door.

No. Maybe a concession (medical device tax, delay till the website works), but no defunding. The monster sits there, growling.

The reality is that without enough Senators to overrule a Presidential veto, Obamacare cannot be defunded at the moment. You need to get rid of the monster, but you need a weapon with enough power to kill him, not just make him mad.

That happens next year, if all the whiners can see the big picture. Take permanent entitlement cuts and revision of the tax code today, take the Senate next fall.

Let that Obamacare website get up and working. Right now, it’s a joke. When it’s working and people see how it affects them, it will be a nightmare.

I may not like Boehner or Cantor or others in House leadership, but giving up seniority and majority would be suicidal stupidity.

Ryan is a pragmatist and a good guy. I will never agree with him, or any politician, on everything, but we must quit eating our own if we hope to rescue this country.

The 2014 elections are critical. Opponents of this administration must stop bickering and trying to destroy one another, or we are all doomed.


52 posted on 10/12/2013 8:42:42 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: wmfights
My mistake. It seems he's more of a "go along get along" type Pub.

Just looked up his voting record, Ryan voted for the $700 billion bank bailout, the biggest Medicare expansion in U.S. history, a massive highway bill that included the “Bridge to Nowhere” and the Obama 987B stimulus bill!

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79688.html#ixzz2hWVHn1UA

55 posted on 10/12/2013 8:49:31 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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Paul Ryan is an IDIOT!! We hadVERY UNPOPULAR Obamacare on the ropes and he lets him squirm out and take on VERY POPULAR things like SS and Medicare which will scare a segment we can't afford to scare right now.

PAUL RYAN IS AN IDIOT!!!! Call DR> BENNETT!!

71 posted on 10/12/2013 10:43:23 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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