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Lucifercare fines charitable hospitals that treat poor people for free
DC Clothesline ^ | 10/11/2013 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 10/12/2013 7:54:59 AM PDT by IbJensen

If anyone is still so deluded as to think Obama actually cares about the poor, this should extinguish your delusion for good.

The (un)Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare and more truthfully should be called Lucifercare, will fine charitable hospitals that provide healthcare for poor people — for free.

The fines can be as high as $50,000.

After that, Lucifercare — via its minions in the IRS — will remove the nonprofit status from those hospitals. Currently, some 60% of U.S. hospitals are nonprofits.

Of those, a sizeable number are Catholic. 615 Catholic hospitals account for 12.5% of community hospitals in the United States, and over 15.5% of all U.S. hospital admissions.

Last year, it was Chief Justice John Roberts’ siding with the four liberals on the Supreme Court which led to the court’s narrow 5-4 ruling that Lucifercare is a tax and therefore is constitutional. Roberts is a Roman Catholic. I hope you’re happy with yourself, Roberts you POS.

Lucifercare’s fining and hounding-int0-extinction charitable hospitals should tell you, once and for all, that when Obama and all Democrats say they care about the poor, it’s all lip service, otherwise called *Lies*.

What they care about is *POWER* — their power.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; alienpresident; badfacts; cupcakepromqueen; deathpanels; liarsanddamnedliars; lucifercare; obamacare; obozocare; zerocare
Lucifercare it is!

Obama and his assorted zoo filled with zombies are putting the charity hospitals out of business which only makes sense to the Obozo retinue. Why they would even bother to mess with it. Guess they are just more committed than those of us with brains that still function.

Who's going to stop this wholesale destruction of America? Who, besides those of us here, understands the evil that this hater of America and his Satanic disciples represents. They want to make life in America so frustratingly complicated and evil that some may flee. This must be stopped.

1 posted on 10/12/2013 7:54:59 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
Excellent!

LUCIFERCARE

2 posted on 10/12/2013 7:57:16 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: IbJensen

The illegals are going to love this. What do u mean I’ll be billed for this.


3 posted on 10/12/2013 7:59:17 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: IbJensen

Outrageous.


4 posted on 10/12/2013 7:59:21 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: IbJensen
" Who, besides those of us here, understands the evil that this hater of America and his Satanic disciples represents. "

Oh WHY doesn't a senator or representative talk like that ?

I keep hoping and waiting for a breakthrough, but none seems to happen.

5 posted on 10/12/2013 7:59:30 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: IbJensen; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ..
Slightly off topic ping…


6 posted on 10/12/2013 8:00:52 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: knarf

Excellent!
LUCIFERCARE


It is kind of a Beast, isn’t it?


7 posted on 10/12/2013 8:05:34 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: IbJensen

Devilmaycare


8 posted on 10/12/2013 8:07:50 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: null and void

Or actually, right on point, and point well taken


9 posted on 10/12/2013 8:13:57 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: ecomcon

Oooooooooo! Excellent!


10 posted on 10/12/2013 8:16:47 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: rdcbn

Off topic for the Constitutional Eligibility and Nut-Job Conspiracy Theory ping lists.


11 posted on 10/12/2013 8:18:08 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: IbJensen

Lucifercare, the devil is in the details......


12 posted on 10/12/2013 8:20:51 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: null and void

I was thinking more along the lines of canaries and coal mines.


13 posted on 10/12/2013 8:21:39 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: IbJensen
In the town I live in there is one hospital, Our Lady of Lourdes. They had the best birthing center and had just recently expanded it. All of a sudden they announce they are closing it down and in July the last baby was born there.

Across the river in Kennewick they have always had Kennewick General Hospital. In the last few years they have expanded into different locations now they have changed their name to Trios Health. Here is a snippet from the article:

"“The bottom line is that we are not the same organization that opened its doors more than 60 years ago,” said CEO Glen Marshall. “We serve the full community — patients from Kennewick, Richland, Pasco and beyond ... We are no longer just providing general medicine. And we are no longer only a hospital. We are a complete community-based system of care.” Implementing the name change will allow the hospital district to make the most of its finite resources, Marshall said."

Read more here: Name Change

Obamacare has done all this.

14 posted on 10/12/2013 8:23:15 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: Lakeshark

Lucifercare, the devil is in the details......


Now that was funny.

Accurate and subject appropriate too.


15 posted on 10/12/2013 8:23:49 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

Hence the graphic...


16 posted on 10/12/2013 8:23:53 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: IbJensen


17 posted on 10/12/2013 8:28:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Spunky

Sounds like kind of a counterfeit hospital.

Lots of emphasis on soothing , sympathy and caring, while providing much reduced levels of actual medical care and curing


18 posted on 10/12/2013 8:30:05 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: IbJensen

I’ve been wondering about this myself. I volunteer in a faith based free urgent care center, for those who are presently in the “working poor” uninsured category. These are the people who would be slated for Obamacare, but will probably chose to pay the penalty and use our clinic. We probably are a direct threat to the Obamacare plan.


19 posted on 10/12/2013 8:41:34 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: IbJensen

Ephesians 6

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12 For our struggle is not against [e]flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.


20 posted on 10/12/2013 8:43:11 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Lakeshark
PERFECT!!


21 posted on 10/12/2013 9:08:27 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Post of the Week


22 posted on 10/12/2013 9:20:29 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: IbJensen

When you pay LOTS of money for NOTHING after being promised EVERYTHING, YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!

So it’s ObamaSCAM... not care.

Or... its ObamacareLess.


23 posted on 10/12/2013 9:22:55 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: rdcbn
Thank you

I churned that out so quickly that I misaligned one of the lines of Type...proving the point that the devil is indeed in the details

Revision....




24 posted on 10/12/2013 9:23:01 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: IbJensen

Working as the devil had planned.


25 posted on 10/12/2013 9:25:57 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: IbJensen

Congress should make a list of the top 10 worst parts of Obamacare (this would be one), and state that they want to revoke 7-8 of those 10 and negotiate on the numbers. It would be a good excuse to get some of these things back in the news and highlight the ugly side of Obamacare.


26 posted on 10/12/2013 9:31:04 AM PDT by csivils
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To: Safrguns

Since Cupcake can’t exercise his preferred sexual proclivities now that he’s in the limelite, he can get his jollies by figuratively giving it to all of us in the rear.

(His preferred stance whilst engaged in his avocation.)


27 posted on 10/12/2013 9:48:58 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Their course is simple....... don’t pay the fines


28 posted on 10/12/2013 9:52:35 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: IbJensen

Not to burst y’alls bubbles, but the Catholic Health Association of the United States ENDORSED Obamacare in 2009.

“The American Hospital Association, the Catholic Health Association and other industry groups endorsed the health care reform legislation in 2009. Although the law will cut their Medicare and Medicaid payments by $155 billion over a decade, hospitals calculated that decreasing the number of patients without health insurance — and thus the amount of bad debt on their books and charity care provided — made the deal worth it.”

So, all they have to do is report who and how they treated, and no fine. And, since they will be spending much less time and resources treating uninsured patients, they’ll have PLENTY of time to do the paperwork.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/06/AR2009070604053.html


29 posted on 10/12/2013 10:23:51 AM PDT by Beelzebubba2464
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To: IbJensen

So called charitable hospitals stopped being charitable a couple of decades.

When the illegals and the dregs of society started flocking to them for everyday health care, most of which could have been handled by a good pharmacist.

Those in charge of the hospitals started passing on the costs of the free loaders to those with insurance and those with cash.

So a 5 cent aspirin was billed at $10 to $50. A hundred $ procedure was billed at $3,000.

My wife broke her wrist two years ago and the surgery costs for preop, 1 hour of surgery and two hours post op was over $100k

Medicare paid $7500.


30 posted on 10/12/2013 10:41:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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To: IbJensen

marked for later


31 posted on 10/12/2013 11:25:19 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Contracepting couples are heterosexual gays.)
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To: IbJensen

“By what power or by what name have you done this?” (Acts 4:7) (said when Peter and John healed a lame man in Jesus’s name)

This is not the first time someone tried to stop people from helping the sick in Jesus’s name.


32 posted on 10/12/2013 11:39:54 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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33 posted on 10/12/2013 11:40:57 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: null and void

didn’t they use canaries in the coal mines????


34 posted on 10/12/2013 1:47:02 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: IbJensen
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Since I be votin’ for Obama, my taxes gone up big, gas be doubled, my boss stopped offering health insurance, my Babymama and sons lost they jobs, my Momma's welfare check be late, and they be takin' all my guns away.

It's George Bush's fault!

.

35 posted on 10/12/2013 1:49:15 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Nifster

Yep, but obama promised to shut down the coal mines and the canaries had to look for alternate employment...


36 posted on 10/12/2013 1:52:28 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: IbJensen

Several Birth Centers in Tennessee have been closed down recently by the Department of Health, and not for bad patient outcomes. Nurse Midwives are also being targeted. I suspect they are trying to move all births into hospitals where they can be more easily controlled (e.g., make sure newborns are given their shots immediately after birth).


37 posted on 10/12/2013 1:57:36 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: MeshugeMikey
Worth repeating bump....


38 posted on 10/12/2013 1:58:20 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: null and void

and with the unemployment rate being what it is I bet there is a lot of competition


39 posted on 10/12/2013 1:59:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Mack the knife

In TN as I imagine every other state you are given a D.L.# at birth along with your SSN.

This has been going on for some time.


40 posted on 10/12/2013 2:09:12 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: newfreep

Thank you.

the NSA will be knockin down my door any minute now,,,


41 posted on 10/12/2013 5:51:47 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Grampa Dave
Your posting makes one understand what has happened to 'health care' over the past few decades. Many of us remember that decades ago health care was NEVER a topic of conversation or concern.

The cost of medical attention grew by leaps and bounds due to the automotive unions seeking super-increased benefits contract year after contract year. This was exacerbated by the auto execs granting it to keep the production lines grinding out crap.

Add to this the throngs that flocked to emergency care, as you point out, and the result is the gruesome mess we have today.

Elect a demagogic, half-witted mystery Marxist and voila you have a witch's potion that will kill America.

42 posted on 10/13/2013 4:04:18 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Throw in the local city/county/state employee unions and their premium health care thanks to our tax $’s, add the uninsured illegals and our home raised non payers/workers and you have a witches brew which kicks up the hospitals’s costs on a daily basis.


43 posted on 10/13/2013 8:14:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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