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Reset: New round of talks begin after negotiations collapse
Washington Times ^ | October 12, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 10/12/2013 12:41:38 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

As the government shutdown entered its 12th day, the best lawmakers on Capitol Hill could say on Saturday is that they’ve started talking — again.....

....Mr. Reid has rejected every request Republicans have made, including most recently a proposal circulated by Sen. Susan Collins, Maine Republican, that would have repealed a despised Obamacare tax and given the White House more flexibility to manage the sequesters, in return for opening up the government and passing a debt increase........

House Republicans and the White House had both said they were making progress over the previous two days, saying that they had cleared the air and that the GOP was working to see if it could find an offer Mr. Obama could accept.

But by Saturday morning Republicans were accusing the White House of negotiating in bad faith, and Mr. Reid declared the White House talks dead.

“That’s over with. It’s done. They’re not talking anymore,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said as he opened his chamber.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: house; obamacare; senate; shutdown

1 posted on 10/12/2013 12:41:38 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The simple fact is that socialized medicine sucks everywhere it’s been tried.


2 posted on 10/12/2013 12:45:04 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Jack Hammer

What a turkey!


3 posted on 10/12/2013 12:45:40 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I see Harry's sporting the "Il Duce" raised chin look now...


4 posted on 10/12/2013 12:48:00 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java; All
Cruz Easily Wins Value Voters Summit Straw Poll "Senator Ted Cruz easily beat the competition in the Value Voters Summit Presidential Straw Poll, winning a whopping 42 percent of votes cast by social conservatives at the summit....."
5 posted on 10/12/2013 12:50:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Negotiations"? What negotiations?

The Zero King himself said he will not negotiate. The Repubs need to stop trying to "talk" to the Petulant Tyrant and just keep sending funding bills to the Senate (minus ZeroCare) and tell the media, talk shows, town halls, etc. thet they keep sending funding bills to the Senate but they are under instructions from Obama to call them DOA.

Put the pressure on the Dems for once.

6 posted on 10/12/2013 12:55:37 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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“...................But the story that no one is writing. or taking polls about, is red state Democrats. They are the ones who will actually be asking voters to reelect them. They will have to explain their votes for ObamaCare!

Where are all of these red state Democrats? What Sunday shows are they doing this week? Which one is defending ObamaCare along with Senator Reid or Senator Schumer? Which one is scheduling President Obama for a trip promothing ObamaCare?

They are not on TV defending their vote for ObamaCare or taking questions at candidate meeings in Arkansas, Alaska and so on.

They are hiding in their offices and avoiding Obama like a plague.

That’s your story or poll if anyone in the media really wants to find out wherre public opinion is going.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/10/how_about_a_poll_about_red_state_democrats.html


7 posted on 10/12/2013 12:55:42 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Now that the Republicans are bidding against themselves, total capitulation isn’t far off.


8 posted on 10/12/2013 12:56:31 PM PDT by Spok (Obama is to healthcare what Stalin was to Ukrainian agriculture.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, given a choice between negotiation amongst themselves and not negotiating at all, I vote for the second choice, no negotiations.

I will say the house should decide what they want to do, sans giving the jerk what he wants, send it over to the Senate and put out as many press releases they have done their job and constitutionally it is up to the Senate to agree to a bill before it goes to el jerk. Make it plain and simple, the senate is the obsticle, not the house. If smug Reid rewrites it to suit himself, fine. Go to conference and blow smoke rings at the senate conf members.

In this way they follow the constitution. Going to el jerk and negotiating is ridicules, Reid is cut out and eventually he gets his way later which is to deliver exactly what el jerk wanted in the first place. Meanwhile, just keep sending forward individual spending bills.


9 posted on 10/12/2013 12:59:09 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...the GOP was working to see if it could find an offer Mr. Obama could accept.

Screw that!

Make the boy-king wannabe sweat out the shutdown of "his" government. The "news" media make it out to look like he's sitting up in his ivory tower waiting for the little people to come to him with something he likes.

Imagine how the "news" media would treat a Repub Prez if he just sat waiting for Congress to do what he wanted! The Zero King needs to let the American people know what he demands so they can see the difference in the two sides. Right now, it's all mushed in smoke and mirrors, thanks in part to the "news" media.

10 posted on 10/12/2013 1:00:58 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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11 posted on 10/12/2013 1:02:27 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Mouton

"President Obama used his weekly radio address to reject the latest offer from House Republicans to end the fiscal stalemate. The outline of their proposal was released Friday and would have reopened government through December and lifted the debt ceiling for six weeks.

"It wouldn’t be wise, as some suggest, to just kick the debt ceiling can down the road for a couple months, and flirt with a first-ever intentional default right in the middle of the holiday shopping season," Obama said in his address.

"Because damage to America’s sterling credit rating wouldn’t just cause global markets to go haywire; it would become more expensive for everyone in America to borrow money," Obama continued. "Students paying for college. Newlyweds buying a home,"....BreitBart

12 posted on 10/12/2013 1:04:06 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“”It wouldn’t be wise, as some suggest, to just kick the debt ceiling can down the road for a couple months, and flirt with a first-ever intentional default right in the middle of the holiday shopping season,” Obama said in his address.””

No, this ass is infering it would be better to kick the debt load further down the road right through the next election.

BTW, the accompanying picture seems to show an alien in our midst, probably from the planet Uranus.


13 posted on 10/12/2013 1:10:36 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: jeffc

Sen. McCain talks with Sen. Collins on Capital Hill following meeting with President Obama at the White House.
14 posted on 10/12/2013 1:11:32 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mouton
.... No, this ass is infering it would be better to kick the debt load further down the road right through the next election....

Bump!

15 posted on 10/12/2013 1:12:25 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm 100% in favor of pushing this to a Constitutional Crisis. Spending originates in the House. The House will fund everything in government, except Obamacare. That tells me that we have a budget, government can re-open, and Obamacare is dead, dead, dead. Hold that line.

There is no need to talk. Obama can overthrow our entire system of government or he can surrender the point and give us a full victory.

I see no reason to accept any half-measure.

16 posted on 10/12/2013 1:12:50 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Collins looks like she’s in pain.


17 posted on 10/12/2013 1:15:56 PM PDT by csvset
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To: ClearCase_guy

Obama has taken us to the brink and he’s hoping this will push everything over the cliff. Then he and his cronies/media/operatives will fan out and pin the wreckage he’s wanted for so long (pay this country back for it’s “sins”) on the conservatives (Cruz/TeaParty).


18 posted on 10/12/2013 1:17:34 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: csvset
Collins looks like she’s in pain.

I'm can't conjure up any sympathy for her.

19 posted on 10/12/2013 1:18:27 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Obama to meet with Senate Dems as debt talks continue "President Obama is inviting Senate Democratic leaders to the White House for a meeting on Saturday as lawmakers continue negotiating a deal to hike the federal debt limit....."
20 posted on 10/12/2013 1:23:35 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Boehnor was smart which he isn’t he would just go back to his office and continure to do his normal daily work and not attempt anymore negotiating. Let the Dems figure out what they want to do and come to him.


21 posted on 10/12/2013 1:35:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We give them everything and that wasn’t enough?

The words I want to share would get me banned.


22 posted on 10/12/2013 1:51:09 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, the House should just pack up and go home. The government is out of moolah. Time to go. No more negotiating says the dictator. Hang it on him, make him try to govern with nothing.


23 posted on 10/12/2013 1:56:58 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: COBOL2Java

He has to raise his head to see over the belt buckles of the other senators.


24 posted on 10/12/2013 1:58:41 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is that photo of McCain pretending to be Obama or McCain imitating a monkey or a monkey imitating McCain? I can’t tell.....


25 posted on 10/12/2013 2:23:58 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He looks demented even in the pics that are not photoshopped. Lol


26 posted on 10/12/2013 3:39:54 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

In case you have any doubt, this is the level of intelligence and understanding of our laws that Reid has - and yet, he ALONE can decide which bill will and will not be brought to a vote - That makes him, does it not, reall the most powerful man in DC?

In this clip, even the interviewer is dumbfounded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6q0slMhDw8


27 posted on 10/12/2013 8:52:22 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If I was a liberal in 2013, I’d be laughing and crapping on everyone too.


28 posted on 10/12/2013 9:26:24 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And with today’s breakdown/not-so-thinly-veiled-threat of the EBT system, O-craphead has shown what he will do if the Repubs don’t capitulate immediately.


29 posted on 10/12/2013 9:32:13 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Now is the time for the republicans to WALK AWAY! Announce that they have attempted to negotiate in good faith and that the next move belongs to Reid/Teleprompter. They have rejected everything, their turn to bring something to the table.


30 posted on 10/12/2013 10:17:49 PM PDT by csivils
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To: jeffc

Agreed! Keep sending the spending bills, double down by including a debt limit increase in each bill to cover the amount of the spending in the bill. Then go state that the choice to default belongs to Obama/Reid.

And don’t let up on Obama care, there are all kinds of horrible provisions in there. Keep moving around and trying to get some of them cut/changed. Even when the Democrats say no, it still is bad publicity.


31 posted on 10/12/2013 10:20:07 PM PDT by csivils
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