Posted on 10/12/2013 5:39:59 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn
Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Susan Collins are doing their best to complicate everything and shill for K Street.
I am actually surprised Paul Ryan could be diverted from amnesty long enough to ensure Obamacare is fully funded.
But he has.
The House should act very simply pass a debt limit increase. Pass it so it goes through Christmas. There is no point trying to do negotiations over the holidays.
Then let Harry Reid reject it.
Harry Reid is banking on the media being in his pocket the whole time. And they are and will be right up until they have to point out the House passed a debt limit increase that gets us through January 1st.
Do it now. Keep the CR Obamacare funding free. Stop peeing in your britches over that Wall Street Journal NBC poll. Suck it up and fight.
There really are only two options: fight or complete surrender. If you guys in the House completely surrender, I assure you youll be fighting for your lives next year in your primaries.
Give a debt limit bill until the middle of January so as to keep the public focus on ObummerCare. Keep passing individual funding bills and send them to Dingy Harry. If Dingy says "they're DOA" in the Senate, tell him it's too bad he continues to shut down the government but any idea Dingy has of getting a bill funding ObummerCare is DOA in the House. Don't listen to Collins, McConnell, or Ryan. Keep the heat on.
It looks like McConnell is shining Dingy Harry’s shoes these days.
Two comments below the article:
Poster 1) Is Erick proposing that the House pass a clean Debt Limit increase, or does he want requirements attached?
Poster 2) Yeah, and probably pass a short term CR as well. Right now it looks like either retreat or surrender, so retreat is the obvious choice. If Reid & Obama want to “default” now to stop the GOP from potentially doing it in a few months, let them. Even the MSM will have trouble selling that one - though they’d surely try. And once things are temporarily suspended, the House should pass all of its appropriations bills. Then announce that any future CRs will only cover appropriations that are awaiting reconciliation in conference (meaning the Senate had passed them with amendments). Force the Senate to go on record about specific spending requests. Really shouldn’t ever need a CR if both houses are doing their jobs.
Re Poster 1: My reading of the article is that Erick is proposing that the House pass a clean Debt Limit increase, with no requirements attached. The reason is to keep the focus on ObummerCare until that is resolved. Obummer, the Dhimms, and the Big Government Republicans are trying to combine the CR with the debt limit increase to give McConnell/Boehner more maneuverability to cave.
Re Poster 2: I don’t see anywhere in the article a reference to passing a short term CR. I think that would defeat the purpose of what Lee, Cruz et al. have been doing. My take is that Erick wants to not budge on the CR. Ryan et al. want to conflate the CR and DL to wiggle out of holding firm on the CR.
I suggest you (and WE) ought to call/write speaker Boehner and our Republican Reps/Senators with this advice (I did).
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U.S. House of Representatives
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TTY: (202)-225-1904
The House should act very simply -- pass a debt limit increase. Pass it so it goes through Christmas. There is no point trying to do negotiations over the holidays. Then let Harry Reid reject it.Nope. Bulls***. Been tried, already rejected. The Demwits are losing, and it's beginning to dawn on them that the Pubbies are not going to budge further. In retrospect, this particular fight will be seen as Obama's Stalingrad, with Reid and cadre playing the part of Field Marshall Paulus.
Yeah, (a rare time I agree with this guy).
A 6 to 8 week extension to allow the minibills to be forced through the Senate.
Once Harry Reid’s blockade of those bills is demolished the Dems have nothing- no plan.
House conservatives don’t want to do it, they should. Boehner should give them the guarantees that would sway them; I think he hasn’t and that is the problem.
Wrong, NO DEBT LIMIT INCREASE, all funding bills have already been passed by the House, now ADJOURN.
One obvious problem with that analogy I can see is that Paulus surrendered. Not sure Reid will do that.
People in KY have some strange attachment to McC that defies all reality. It must be the name ID that keeps KY in a little news coverage from time to time; it can’t be McC’s “leadership”.
The House cannot adjourn without Senate consent for more than three days.
“Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Susan Collins are doing their best to complicate everything and shill for K Street....”
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VERY, VERY, VERY well said. With friends such as this we sure as hell don’t need enemies. The very best you could say about these three is that they are gullible, but I don’t think that is the case. Much more likely they are sell-outs and have betrayed everything for K Street money and accolades from the “ruling elite”.
What low and unworthy people they are.
I wrote Boehner and suggested that today.
Better yet...pass it with restoring the funding to Medicare the Democrats robbed from it to pay for Obamacare. That would sure complicate things for the Democrats.
Actually the house should pass a debt list increase to new years eve. Tell the senate and Obama if they do not have a budget for the house by that time, congress will cut the budget by 10% a month until election.
Surrender to the 29 1/2 HOUR WORK WEEK.
Surrender to Small Business limits of 50 workers.
Surrender to the end of low cost insurance.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE: SUBMIT TO SOCIALISM.
/Sarcasm OFF
You act as though the rules or the Constitution are somehow relevant?. The Senate hasn’t followed the Constitution in 5 years, The President Never follows the Constitution, just adjourn and tell them to go pound sand.
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