Skip to comments.Obama: “I Will Not Negotiate” (And If I Don't Get My Way, I'll Throw A Temper Tantrum)
Posted on 10/13/2013 8:05:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
You would have had to be under a rock to miss our President stating that recently. He mouthed that repeatedly during the budget debate and the government shutdown. It became his mantra leading up to the impending vote for raising the debt ceiling. The constitutional lawyer was apparently absent the day they taught that we have three co-equal branches of government. More than anything else, Mr. Obama apparently does not understand how the debt ceiling works.
President Obama has regularly repeated I will not negotiate over the full faith and credit of the United States. Certainly he may mean that, but it appears he does not really understand the nature and the history of the debt ceiling. Or like many other things he may just be choosing to ignore it.
As with many other things, there was not always a debt ceiling. It was not part of our Constitution, as I am sure the Founders of our country never envisioned us being this much in debt. In fact, until 1917 the Congress had to authorize every specific incident of the country contracting debt. Then the United States entered World War I. Six months after our entry into the war, the Congress passed the Second Liberty Bond Act. The concept of a debt ceiling was created in this act. The law allowed the executive branch to issue bonds or incur other debt without Congressional approval. The debt could be issued up to a pre-established limit. The law was signed by the then most liberal President (Wilson) the country has had (other than the current one). It was passed by a Congress that had a plurality of Republicans in the House and a majority of Democrats in the Senate.
You may wonder what the leaders were thinking at the time. You can surmise that they wanted to provide flexibility to the President during a time of war. But since financial matters originate in the House, they did not want to provide a carte blanche to the executive branch to incur unlimited debt.
Thus, they established that a vote would have to be taken any time the debt ceiling would be raised. And it has been that way for 96 years. A vote in the Congress is by definition a political event. During the past 96 years there have been numerous votes regarding raising the debt ceiling, and I cannot remember a President flatly stating he will not negotiate.
Just to be clear there have been 53 votes to change the debt ceiling just since 1978. Of those votes only 26 were passed without being tied to other policy issues. The other 27 times (more than half) the debt ceiling was raised as part of either a comprehensive package or tied to significant reforms.
One of the arguments the President makes for his unique position revolves around the manner in which the debt was created. Mr. Obama states that the Congress is just approving the debt for expenditures to which they have previously committed. But our President once again deliberately misstates the facts. He seems to forget that his partner-in-crime, The Undertaker, has not passed a budget out of the U.S. Senate in four years. Well, that is technically incorrect. The Senate did pass a budget, but the Undertaker has ordered Senator Patty Murray, chair of the Senate Budget Committee, to not conference with Paul Ryan and the House Budget Committee as directed by the Constitution. That is why there has been a fight over a continuing resolution to keep the government operating. We once again have no official budget. But why should the Democrats in the Senate follow the law when they know they are doing the right thing?
One writer stated I know of no other developed nation that has a debt ceiling. This is purely a recurring symbolic vote to make people feel good by voting against it. That may have been so when Mr. Obama was in the U.S. Senate and voted against raising the debt ceiling during the Bush Administration. But times have changed. We have a President who has spent recklessly, and we have a Senate that has enabled him by not following their Constitutional obligation and approving a budget which might control that spending.
When Liberals are screaming about how irresponsible those crazy Republicans are with trying to negotiate over the debt ceiling, you can now educate them with facts. Then again, as has been said, facts to a liberal are like kryptonite to Superman.
We have a childish President who needs his butt blistered! If only we had Republicans with BALLS (sorry) but obviously we don’t.
obama folded so easily to the syrians ... how come the republicans can’t see that he’s a spineless puss.
“Waaah! Waaah! Waaah!” - Barack the Kenyan.
Pubbies....give Obama...nothing, zilch, zero, zippo, etc.!!! Let him go over the cliff with his Obamabot low life Democrat vermin!!! Time to stick and band together, Pubbies!!! Screw RINOs McConnell, McCain, Graham, Cornyn, etc.!!! They are all traitors to the USA and really are just Obamabots in drag!!!
He’s executing the biggest Chicago-style ‘bust-out’ the country has ever seen. In a bust-out, the mobsters use the good credit of a going concern to borrow money to be looted, finally leaving a shell company with huge debts and abysmal credit rating. When the full faith and credit of the US is gone, his bust-out is over, so no wonder he wants to keep that up as long as possible.
They totally mischaracterized both of them as irresponsible attempts to stop the president from doing his job.
This is the level of information being put out to the public.
Fine numbnuts. We don’t want a government with that ability anyway.
Don’t negotiate a damn thing, just dry up and blow away already.
I know, it’s either his way or the highway
Will you help us to get not only the majority, but the Super majority back in 2014?
Personally I think the entire administration should be impeached and removed
I agree 100 percent
Ole Pres—ent “Stompy Feet” in the Spite House just isn’t getting his way!
Negotiates with real terrorists, but not the opposition party.
I guess he considers Republicans a greater threat than Muslims with bombs and poison gas.
I love the say the Demorats and media refer to the negotiations as “extortion”.
The give and take for them is “extortion”.
That must be because they are so used to just the “take” part and have never had to give anything.
No wonder these people hate free enterprise and business and have lived all their lives on the “take”.
What is this, Columbia 1968?
I apologise in advance for being nit-picky, but just as with the use of the word “gay” to refer to sodomites, I wish people would stop calling the opposition “liberals”. These people aren’t “liberal” in any sense, they passed that marker years ago. If “commie” is too strong, “leftists” will do. But they are not “liberal”, just as sodomites are not “gay”.
It’s called temper tantrum
I call that a criminal extortion.