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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This farcical notion that Ted Cruz has hurt the Republican cause is all based on one outlier poll by NBC/WSJ that was even being used on FOX News Sunday like an out-and-out LIAR!!!

ObamaCare is self-destructing all over the place, yet that goofy Krugman on ABC was trying desperately to claim that the exchange website in CA is a smashing success. Peggy Noonan kept refuting it and she's right. Only about 6,000 out of about one million visitors have been able to actually enroll!!!

The day before that skewed poll with a huge increase in government employees included who most likely are AFSCME and SEIU and other government unionized using their lockstep union dictated talking points all of a sudden gives the GOPe an unjustified lift (along with Harry Reid and the Dems) to try once again to make a whipping boy out of the Tea Party. This inspite of the fact this is all one big "pitched battle!"

First Dubya and the Repubs win a big one in 2006 and the Dems panick and begin admitting they don't look too good to voters in the "values" arena. Then Jocko wins in 08 which upsets Repubs and the Tea Party is born and blows out the Dems in 2010 like never before! Then Obozo wins again over a good but non-flashy candidate and the GOPe now tries to halt the rise of the TP that gave them unprecedented victory just as The IRS and other agencies have the TP in a unprecedented straight jacket!!!

If Christ returned as a baby once again he'd be crucified once again. If Ronald Reagan was resurected in the body and mind of Ted Cruz with the backing of the TP, it's a cinch the GOPe would reject him and continue losing as is their habit!!!

This is a pitched battle for the soul of America and fiscal conservatism as well as social conservatism. The GOPe will never win again without both in charge of the Party!!! American voters are beginning to catch on that bloated government is not their friend!!!

23 posted on 10/13/2013 11:08:28 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I pledge to the USSA & 2 the democrazy for witch it stands, a nation with liberalism & misery 4 all!)
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To: SierraWasp
This farcical notion that Ted Cruz has hurt the Republican cause is all based on one outlier poll by NBC/WSJ that was even being used on FOX News Sunday like an out-and-out LIAR!!!

Yeah, you know anytime the media feigns concern about Republicans' political future it's either intentional disinformation, OR, if on some rare occasion one of them were being sincere, it would still be an opinion formed by his upside-down view of what's right and what's popular, so it would STILL be 180 degrees out of sync with the truth even if he thought he were giving valid advice.

25 posted on 10/13/2013 11:21:39 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SierraWasp
Only about 6,000 out of about one million visitors have been able to actually enroll!!!

And don't assume it's entirely the website -- it may be that the plan offerings are so undesirable that out of the million, only 50,000 were even willing to buy, and then out of that only 6,000 were able or something like that.

26 posted on 10/13/2013 11:23:50 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SierraWasp
This farcical notion that Ted Cruz has hurt the Republican cause is all based on one outlier poll by NBC/WSJ that was even being used on FOX News Sunday like an out-and-out LIAR!!! .....................

If reports of Republican panic on Capitol Hill are accurate, a big reason is likely the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal survey, which purports to show the public overwhelmingly disapproves of the GOP's role in the government shutdown.

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But there is much less here than at first appears. For one thing, the survey is based on interviews with "adults," not "likely voters," which significantly lessens its usefulness in predicting the shutdown's impact on the 2014 election.

The sample size is only 800 when 1,000 or more is preferable because it usually boosts the confidence level in the results and lowers the margin of error.

But what really detracts from its usefulness is the fact the survey, which was conducted jointly for NBC and the Wall Street Journal by Democratic pollster Peter Hart and GOP pollster Bill McInturff, uses a seriously flawed sample.

As BlueCollarPerspective's Charles Hawkins points out, the sample is heavily over-weighted by the presence of government workers — 20 percent, which is two-and-a-half-times the rate for the general public — and there too many Democrats and too few Republicans being interviewed.

From a statistical perspective, public opinion surveys absolutely depend upon randomness in sample selection. The most accurate survey is produced when every potential respondent has exactly the same chance of being selected as every other potential respondent.

It's impossible to achieve perfect randomness, but the closer a sample gets to it, the more accurate it will be. Hart and McInturff are reputable pollsters, so it appears they simply drew what amounts to an outlier survey sample.

That makes the survey all but useless as support for strategic decisions by anybody involved in the shutdown debate. But it is perfectly consistent with the conventional wisdom of the traditional media, which is heavily skewed against the Republicans, so expect to hear it cited repeatedly in the next few days......"

34 posted on 10/13/2013 11:54:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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