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Sen. Lindsey Graham: Canít support a Senate deal the House will reject
Washington Times ^ | October 13, 2013 | Thomas Howell, Jr.

Posted on 10/13/2013 1:04:20 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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He must have heard something or knows the House is unified - Graham is nothing if not a self-preserving....

Maybe he learned that the NBC/WSJ has been discredited.

1 posted on 10/13/2013 1:04:20 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a wacko bird he’s turning out to be today this sunday afternoon


2 posted on 10/13/2013 1:08:02 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I will support Obama’s destruction of America, only if the other Repubs will.....”

POS.


3 posted on 10/13/2013 1:08:12 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: tsowellfan; EagleUSA

4 posted on 10/13/2013 1:11:24 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Graham is finally understanding that his primary challenge is serious business.
He’s getting conservative religion, at least for now.


5 posted on 10/13/2013 1:14:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Graham is finally understanding that his primary challenge is serious business.
He’s getting conservative religion, at least for now.


6 posted on 10/13/2013 1:14:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

But as usual he undercuts the conservatives.


7 posted on 10/13/2013 1:15:56 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lancey Howard; All

..............“We’re in a compromised situation, but I’m going on offense,” Graham explains, in an interview at Pete’s Diner on Capitol Hill. “Members of Congress and their staffs should not be exempted from Obamacare, and I’m going to insist that if the Senate wants to move forward on any deal, we have to overturn the [Office of Personnel Management’s] ruling on congressional employees,” or, at the least, force senators to vote on it in the coming days.

“Now, I hope the House rises to the occasion here,” Graham continues. “But we’re down to stopping bad things, and the only bad thing at this point that we can really push on is the OPM rule. At this point, I’m not sure if we’re going to get it, so I’m going to object on any deal until I get that up-or-down vote. That’s only fair, and I believe the American people will be with me.”

Graham’s pledge to “object” to any deal that doesn’t include a vote on the Vitter amendment could shake up the ongoing Senate negotiations. Senate Democrats aren’t interested in having that vote, and they’ve asked Graham to not make this eleventh-hour demand. “But the Democrats have moved the goal posts on a reasonable deal,” he says. ”I know we can’t complain too much about our self-inflicted wounds, but the Democrats have gone too far.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/361095/graham-threatens-object-deal-demands-vote-vitter-amendment-robert-costa


8 posted on 10/13/2013 1:20:04 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good or Bad, I don’t care what Graham does or says anymore.
His goose is cooked with me.
When he does wrong it’s typical.
When he does right that’s nice but it’s too late.
He’s proven he needs to go.


9 posted on 10/13/2013 1:20:21 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You are a wonderful FR member, and I have really enjoyed your posts through the years (especially all the threads).

Thanks for that.

I must disagree with you a bit on Sen Graham. He has been one of the few to attempt to stop the terrible affect of military budget cuts and what they are doing to our military. Very few Republicans, in the House or the Senate, are doing that.

Now, it is the Republicans, who to use their own words, want to "bake in" the Sequester, which every single economist and budget analyst says makes the Dept of Defense suffer the most.

Government Shutdown Negotiations Stuck On Sequestration

I am disgusted by the behavior of our Republican "leadership" who is willing to cause further harm to our national defense, while they have subtracted not one dime from entitlements, the real cause of our exploding debt and deficits.

Entitlements were exempt from Sequestration.

The men and women of the US military have done more for this nation than any other segment of the population. Moreover, in the last 12 years, these people have been deployed again, and again, and again - while America went to Pizza Hut and Forever 21.


10 posted on 10/13/2013 1:27:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Graham is a weasel. A shifty, self-serving creature of the senate who gets too much time on Fox News.


11 posted on 10/13/2013 1:30:05 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Lancey Howard
He's aged twenty years in the past three.

"You know how a voice can stir one. Your voice and the voice of Sibyl Vane are two things that I shall never forget. When I close my eyes, I hear them, and each of them says something different. I don't know which to follow." -Dorian Gray, or Lindsey Graham...........Take your pick

12 posted on 10/13/2013 1:30:13 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So, Linda doesn't support the Senate deal because of the principle of the thing. No, he doesn't support it because it would fail in the House.

This man is completely adrift without a clue.

13 posted on 10/13/2013 1:31:11 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SkyPilot

I appreciate you and your post and wish that Sen Graham for all his good points was a consistent and reliable conservative, but he isn’t. We all need to work on our character and our commitment to doing the right thing for the right reasons.


14 posted on 10/13/2013 1:31:22 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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He’s getting conservative religion, at least for now.

How so? He's only not supporting this Senate deal because he thinks it'll fail in the House. The principle of the thing doesn't even enter into his lame lib brain.

15 posted on 10/13/2013 1:32:55 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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“We’re in a compromised situation, but I’m going on offense,” Graham explains..."

Leading from behind is now "going on the offensive"? LOL

Shut up, Linda. You're embarrassing yourself.

16 posted on 10/13/2013 1:34:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
He's only not supporting this Senate deal because he thinks it'll fail in the House. The principle of the thing doesn't even enter into his lame lib brain.

??

Of course. (Where's that "Captain Obvious" image?)

17 posted on 10/13/2013 1:37:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Lindsay.....Have you ever considered changing your name to McCain?

Two McCains vs one Obama might be the same as two Alexanders vs Obama.
Unfortunately you all get whacked.

I want my Country back! More poverty now than 1965! More government since records have been kept.

I suggest a Thomas Paine reading called "Common Sense"

Go and hit the constituents with that!

(oh, I forgot, they are to damn stupid to deal with it. Thank you government for nothing.)
18 posted on 10/13/2013 1:41:39 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; ...
linda makes a dash to the right with three primary challengers chasing after him breathing down his neck.

Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me


19 posted on 10/13/2013 1:42:13 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Of course. (Where's that "Captain Obvious" image?)

You said that Graham is "getting conservative religion..." My point is that he's not. He's just doing the usual political two-step, which only bears the vaguest resemblance to holding a true conservative position.

From the article:

Graham told ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos, adding he understands that defunding or delaying Obamacare is not a viable option.

Do you see my point? Graham still doesn't get that his job is to fight for the principles his constituents believe in. I don't think he's ever understood the basic principles we all believe in at all.

20 posted on 10/13/2013 1:45:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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I appreciate you and your post and wish that Sen Graham for all his good points was a consistent and reliable conservative, but he isn’t.

You are right - he isn't.

But he is right on what the Sequester is doing to the US military.

Very, very few of our Republicans see this truth.

You see this face?

That is the face of a weasel.

The only thing Mitch McConnell cares about is Mitch McConnell.

He is selling out our military men and women so he can brag about how much he "cut spending" and get reelected.

That is the truth.

21 posted on 10/13/2013 1:46:31 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Since Lindsey Graham and his liberal-Republican colleagues are not guided by PRINCIPLE but only by SELF-PRESERVATION, they must constantly be judging whom to CAVE IN to.

With the emergence of Ted Cruz, the strengthening of House Tea-Party Republicans’ backbones, and primary challenges to his own re-election bid, Lindsey Graham seems to be joining John Boehner in caving in to the Tea Party Republicans instead of, as usual, Obama and the Democrats. Which is a major development. But the House Republicans must stand firm.


22 posted on 10/13/2013 1:53:31 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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“He must have heard something or knows the House is unified “

Nah. The dumb b*stard is just up for reelection.


23 posted on 10/13/2013 1:55:47 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
after the hard-right wing of the Republican Party insisted on changes to Obamacare

What crap. We are the center!

24 posted on 10/13/2013 1:57:47 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

McCain Loses! Or maybe Mr. Lindsay is just scared for his re-election campaign?


25 posted on 10/13/2013 2:00:32 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

McCain Loses! Or maybe Mr. Lindsay is just scared for his re-election campaign?


26 posted on 10/13/2013 2:00:37 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sen. Lindsey "Renfield" Graham.


27 posted on 10/13/2013 2:02:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Windflier
You said that Graham is "getting conservative religion..."

Actually, I said, "He’s getting conservative religion, at least for now," implying (though I guess not obviously enough for you) that it's nothing but a phony act

28 posted on 10/13/2013 2:08:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Windflier
My point is that he's not. He's just doing the usual political two-step

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-VrtP47YJmhbJmm/the_best_little_whorehouse_in_texas_1982_the_governor_sings_about_the_whorehouse/

It is time for him to be primaried, and go the way of Lugar, Arlan the Terrible and any others I didn't mention.

We will have a GloatAthon on FR that night, with the song "Na-na-na Hey Hey Hey good bye" being the theme song..

29 posted on 10/13/2013 2:08:12 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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can’t say which oneswill go but it sure is going to be amost interesting primary season.
Whole lot of dead wood like this need jettisoning.


30 posted on 10/13/2013 2:52:10 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

it’s getting hot in South Carolina


31 posted on 10/13/2013 3:13:40 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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He’s getting conservative religion, at least for now.

I'm sick of political opportunists. We need people of principle who truly understand and appreciate the Constitution; who do what they swear to do when they take the oath of office. I understand there are occasions we disagree on how taxes are to be collected and spent, but there ought to be no question in matters of the 2nd Amendment, the 1st Amendment, and many others that are under direct attack by foreign and domestic enemies who must, for the sake of peace and prosperity, be utterly defeated - some of them hung by the neck until dead. Graham is a political opportunist who needs to be unelected, and soon.

32 posted on 10/13/2013 3:20:06 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One thing that’s happened is Harry Reid is considering using “the nuclear option” to pass his debt limit bill.
That will make Senate Rrepublicans dependent on Boehner to get it voted down in the House- otherwise they lose what little power they have.
May be a bluff by Harry to get concessions, but they can’t give any concessions.

Fascinating.


33 posted on 10/13/2013 3:24:48 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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“Graham is finally understanding that his primary challenge is serious business.
He’s getting conservative religion, at least for now.”
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He is NOT getting conservative religion. He’s playing his same old poseur game of pretending to be a conservative while doing all he can to sabotage conservative efforts and to grease the wheels for progressive legislation and nominations of progressive judges.

In a word, he is despicable. NOBODY should fall for his fakery.


34 posted on 10/13/2013 3:38:51 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: House Atreides

LOL

/eyeroll


35 posted on 10/13/2013 3:41:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A liberal at worst, a follower at best.


36 posted on 10/13/2013 4:02:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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You are toast linda so vote your conscience.


37 posted on 10/13/2013 4:16:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sounds like a politician facing a primary challenger.


38 posted on 10/13/2013 4:20:14 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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LOL

/eyeroll
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Eyeroll? Are you a teenage girl?


39 posted on 10/13/2013 4:23:52 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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Are you a moron?


40 posted on 10/13/2013 5:00:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bump for later


41 posted on 10/13/2013 5:27:29 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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implying (though I guess not obviously enough for you)

Geeez.....smooth your feathers down already.

It's hard enough to get people's precise meaning via text when they're being direct - much less so when they're trying to make a point through implication.

42 posted on 10/13/2013 5:28:12 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Are you a moron?
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My goodness, you are touchy. No, the only morons I’ve seen lately are those who believe that Little Lindsey Graham is getting “conservative religion”.


43 posted on 10/13/2013 5:35:28 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Cincinatus’ Wife.

[snip] Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday he would not vote for a deal to reopen the government and raise the debt limit if it cannot attract support in the Republican-led House, arguing there is little point in claiming victory if a deal does not pass muster in the other chamber of Congress. [/snip]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3078482/posts

[snip] Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has called President Obama a “pathetic leader” for his lack of involvement in negotiations to end the government shutdown. He slammed the president’s unwillingness to compromise with Republicans as “immature.” [/snip]


44 posted on 10/13/2013 5:39:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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“Robert Costa;@robertcostaNRO37m
package (so far): 6-wk DL ext, Lankford bill on shutdowns, income verification for O’care applicants, Vitter amdt

Robert Costa;@robertcostaNRO38m
I’ve seen a sketch, on deep bkgrnd, of what House is potentially preparing to propose on Mon...”

Sounds like the Senate RINOs are going to get their wish: a Dem House bill they can support.

Or maybe Boehner is hoping the Dems won’t pass it.

It’d sure get Linda’s vote...


45 posted on 10/13/2013 5:49:00 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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Who in God’s name is stupid enough to believe Graham is suddenly becoming a genuine conservative?
Sorry about being touchy - - I’m sure we are on the same page when it comes to Miss Lindsey.

FRegards,
LH


46 posted on 10/13/2013 6:05:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SkyPilot

Fund the Yellow Labs....


47 posted on 10/13/2013 6:15:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Windflier

Exactly, he is not doing it based on conviction or principle. He needs to go over to the Dems and get it over with..


48 posted on 10/13/2013 6:19:16 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Is Obama's caddy considered "essential personnel"?)
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To: mrsmith

According to
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/house-gop-ponders-short-term-debt-bill-98246.html

that will not include the CR so it may not get Linda’s support after all, it would get mine.


49 posted on 10/13/2013 6:54:22 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Lancey Howard
Sorry about being touchy - - I’m sure we are on the same page when it comes to Miss Lindsey.

We're obviously on the same page, as regards Linda Graham, but I did misunderstand the intent of your primary comment. Text can be a troublesome communication medium.

50 posted on 10/13/2013 8:41:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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