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Sen. Graham to Republicans: 'Face Reality That ObamaCare Cannot Be Stopped'
FOX News ^ | Oct 13, 2013 | FOX News Insider

Posted on 10/13/2013 4:32:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

Lindsey Graham is clearly French.


101 posted on 10/13/2013 7:36:15 PM PDT by Gator113 (Ted Cruz is settled law.)
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To: Windflier

What does it say that the M1 is rubber?


102 posted on 10/13/2013 8:27:46 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: School of Rational Thought
What does it say that the M1 is rubber?

Er.....Hollywood movies aren't real, friend. Sorry to burst that bubble.

103 posted on 10/13/2013 8:38:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sen. Graham is pathetic. If the Republican controlled House does not fund obamaCare, it doesn’t get funded. It’s as simple as that. And there’s not a thing the pathetic Obama or Reid or the pathetic Graham, McCain, McConnell, et al can do about it.

This is per James Madison’s Federalist 58 - the constitution gives the power of the purse to the people’s representatives in the House for the specific purpose of reining in a runaway chief executive and senate. It’ our constitutional check and balance on unconstitutional expansionist government.

Dear House Reps: Ignore the pathetic RINO surrender monkeys. We the people have your backs! Do your constitutional duty! Defund ObamaCare!! And hold the line on the debt!! Obama would spend us into oblivion if given the chance.

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104 posted on 10/13/2013 8:51:47 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It can be delayed. And if it can be delayed it can be stopped with a Republican sweep of Congress. I think there’s actual anger brewing against Democrats. The morons are waking up because they are in pain and blaming Republicans is just so worn out.


105 posted on 10/13/2013 8:55:13 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

Another correct label for the Surrender Monkies, is Collaborator.

They are nothing better than Collaborator with the Enemy.


106 posted on 10/13/2013 9:18:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hear! Hear!


107 posted on 10/13/2013 9:24:08 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: Jim Robinson
I dunno, Jim. Graham might be right. It might be that it cannot be stopped.

But he's wrong about THIS: It *will* stop /itself/. The computer side has been such an abysmal failure, and the medical side looks just as bad, and further, nobody can afford it.

It will collapse the system outright. Therefore, it stops itself -- because the country stops.

And, frankly, that was the plan all along.

108 posted on 10/13/2013 9:36:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

Why can’t it be stopped? I’m serious. If the House does not vote to fund it, it cannot be funded. The senate can’t fund it. The president can’t either. And if we’re not passing a bill, there’s no bill for the senate to approve or the president to veto. Like Madison said, the house has all the constitutional power on this one. And Madison intended for them to use it.

The republican house must hold the line! Do not pass a funding bill. Graham can pound sound. He has no say in the matter.


109 posted on 10/13/2013 9:47:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Agreed.


110 posted on 10/13/2013 9:54:20 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Paladin2

Its way past time to stand up and say NO MORE whether we win or lose......


111 posted on 10/13/2013 10:08:28 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: Nextrush

graham and his fellow travelers are so tiresome. They hate winning. To lose is to verify their identities: uber-losers.


112 posted on 10/13/2013 10:21:01 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: Jim Robinson

The irony: the republicans give up the only bargaining chip they have, and a powerful one, the constitutional authority to decide what to fund and what not to fund, for ‘talks.’ The reason? Because their polling numbers fell overnight. So, in order to salvage reelection they give in. But the people who put them in office are the ones they are infuriating by their lack of cajones. As they found out in the Bush era, playing it safe to preserve your reelection chances ensures your premature retirement from public office.


113 posted on 10/14/2013 3:58:31 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Jim Robinson

To Sen. Graham - you’re fired


114 posted on 10/14/2013 4:03:24 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (am in the process of not complying)
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To: Jim Robinson

Some said the Nazis couldn’t be stopped. Others, in the ‘60s, had the slogan, Better Red than Dead”. Graham is on the wrong side of history and politics.


115 posted on 10/14/2013 4:16:03 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Two things...

I guess it would be too much to expect a serious primary challenge to some of the capitulatiing, feckless wonders from the people in those states...

Second, I find their malaise to be very effective in giving some of those Representatives in other states pause enough to consider saving their own hides, instead of the countries future...

Therefore, I recommend to those FReepers to take note of their Representatives final stand on this issue...This is it, no more...A cave is a cave...

If you do not have the politiccal courage to stand up to these feckless, capitulating wastes of time and space, then I. and hopefully many others do not have any use for you, anymore...I do not care how popular you are...Popularity has no place in this debate, and therefore is not a priority...

Get over yourselves, you can be replaced, one way, or another...That is not a threat, it is a promise...

Those peole that marched on you this weekend didn’t blled for your cush accooupraments in political office!!! They are making a reasonable plea to tell you to keep focused, and not lose your courage and stand up for what is right...

Because if we have to come back...All your park police and other forces will be hard pressed to protect you from that promise...

/passionate rant!!!


116 posted on 10/14/2013 4:17:13 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: trebb
Some said the Nazis couldn’t be stopped.

Yes, but look to the price paid.

117 posted on 10/14/2013 4:21:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble
Some said the Nazis couldn’t be stopped.

Yes, but look to the price paid.

I'm not sure how to take that - did I miss an obvious sarcasm or am I missing something else?

118 posted on 10/14/2013 4:54:17 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jim Robinson

“...Sen. Graham to Republicans: ‘Face Reality That ObamaCare Cannot Be Stopped...”

Prohibition was stopped. Took a few years, but it WAS stopped. This can be too.

And while we can’t STOP it right now, we can stall, delay, stonewall, impede, derail, slow, hinder, drag, and any other adjective you can think of.... until such time as our people regain the Senate and the WH.

And ANY GOP RINO critter that gets in the way of that can KMA and should be thrown out of office at the earliest opportunity.

They’re either WITH us or AGAINST us. There’s no middle ground anymore.

Glad you’re back JR...


119 posted on 10/14/2013 5:16:16 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Sorry, but NO entitlement, once begun, has been abolished. Prohibition was only killed as it effected EVERYONE equally (except for the criminals and Congress, but I repeat myself).

Income tax is not 100yrs old, Social Security is not that far behind in age. Add in Medicare/Medicaid and the likes. Nope, OCare will be added to the list and another sucking hole to throw taxpayer $$ down will be created. Hell, most couldn’t pass Constitutional muster, yet somehow they still live on.

No. KILL it before it can begin is the ONLY way.


120 posted on 10/14/2013 5:47:49 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: Jim Robinson

What percentage of South Carolina Republican primary voters want to end ObamaCare. It’s obvious that they need to elect someone other than Grahamnesty to accomplish that goal.


121 posted on 10/14/2013 5:54:10 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Graham: Republicans need to surrender so I can get invited to the cool parties again!

Freakin bootlicker, happy to sell us out so he can enjoy the liberals table scraps.


122 posted on 10/14/2013 6:07:01 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Windflier
Er.....Hollywood movies aren't real, friend. Sorry to burst that bubble.

So then the original post was pointless.

123 posted on 10/14/2013 6:07:29 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: School of Rational Thought
So then the original post was pointless.

As was your cryptic response to it.

124 posted on 10/14/2013 6:13:32 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Senator Graham needs to face the reality that he is out-of-office next election.


125 posted on 10/14/2013 6:17:53 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: NFHale

We can stop it cold, dead in its tracks. Simply do not pass a bill in the House funding it.

Thanks!


126 posted on 10/14/2013 6:36:11 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: i_robot73

“...Sorry, but NO entitlement, once begun, has been abolished...”

We’ll see. This is pretty much despised by 70% of the country.

“...No. KILL it before it can begin is the ONLY way....”

It’s already begun. And it’s a disaster.

But I prefer to remain optimistic. Things have changed.


127 posted on 10/14/2013 6:36:22 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Roger that!


128 posted on 10/14/2013 6:36:53 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Another a**hole RINO that thinks he can appear “above the fray” while taking a gutless position on the issue.


129 posted on 10/14/2013 6:42:10 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: School of Rational Thought; Windflier

“...What does it say that the M1 is rubber?...”

It says “My Insurance Company is making sure that I’m not pointing a REAL, loaded M1 Garand at an actor, so that what happened to Brandon Lee during one of HIS movies doesn’t happen on MY set...” Or something pretty similar...

And as for “..Let’s face reality, the older one gets the less fight in you...”

Tell that to the WWII veterans who showed up at the WWII Memorial this past weekend... Hell, If my old man were still alive, he’d have been suited up, hooked up, and ready for a jump into DC out of a C47...

You’re NEVER too old to have fighting spirit - especially when you’re seeing all that you fought for being subverted by some little sock puppet butt-boy commie thug.


130 posted on 10/14/2013 6:43:51 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sen. Graham and gutless RINOs like him had better damned well realize that people simply cannot afford this train wreck coming down the pike. They are standing by watching our healthcare system being systematically destroyed.


131 posted on 10/14/2013 6:44:45 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Jim Robinson

OK, go sign up for it. We’ll wait patiently.


132 posted on 10/14/2013 6:45:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Sooth2222

“Just based on how the Obamacare exchange rollout is going, I’d say Obamacare has an excellent chance of stopping itself, without any assistance from Republicans. Combine gross gov’t incompetence with a defiance of personal economic behavior, and you have, to quote Democrat Sen. Max Baucus, a “train wreck”.”

The only problem is it will be dealt with by calls from the left for Single-Payer.


133 posted on 10/14/2013 6:46:29 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: trebb

Here’s how to take it: Avoiding 60 million dead is to be desired, if it is possible at this very, very late date.


134 posted on 10/14/2013 6:51:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: South40
But those die-hard believers don't make up the majority of primary voters. South Carolina holds open primaries, and voters can't register by party. This from the article about Graham's primary is the reason Tea Party groups need to get a couple of people to run in the Dem primary. Give the dems their own primary so they stay out of the Republican primary. And maybe a Tea Party Dem will win. Imagine the excitement fro the media if both the Republican and the Democrat Senate candidates are Tea Party folks. Win win for South Carolina.
135 posted on 10/14/2013 6:53:15 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: jch10

Why can’t they get this simple point right? The constitution gives the House power of the purse. They have spoke and Harry Reid and Obama are ahuttng down the goverment and holding the House hostage to their funding demands. Sheesh.


136 posted on 10/14/2013 7:13:44 AM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: Jim Robinson
ObamaCare Cannot Be Stopped'

That's what they said about slavery, Lindsey.

137 posted on 10/14/2013 7:49:57 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Sooth2222

” I’d say Obamacare has an excellent chance of stopping itself”

Only health care services to the people will stop. The tax increases, insurance increases, loss of doctors, and increase of healthcare ‘administrators’ and bureaucracy will all continue regardless of how many people are covered. The bureaucracy will still get the power and the money and “oops, the system doesn’t work too well due to computer glitches and political opponents gumming the works.


138 posted on 10/14/2013 7:53:00 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Jim Robinson

It can only be stopped NOW at startup funding before the ACA taxes and charges kick in. Once its up and running/not running it will have the only thing it needs to survive: control of the American people and their property.


139 posted on 10/14/2013 8:08:55 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Jim Robinson
Q1: What is the difference between Lindsey Graham and Vidkun Quisling?

A1: Quisling understood who he was working for.

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Q2: What is the difference between Lindsey Graham and Marshall Philippe Petain, the head of Vichy France?

A2: Petain was once a bona fide war hero.

140 posted on 10/14/2013 8:16:28 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: xzins
. . . storm the Bastogne and demand it be stopped.

Methinks you mean storm the Bastille, the infamous French prison which was the focus of events on July 14, 1789 which begin the French Revolution.

Bastogne was the Belgian town which was focal point of the Battle of the Bulge which the Germans surrounded and demanded the American commander surrender on Christmas Eve, 1944. His famous one-word reply "Nuts!" and subsequent heroic holdout bought the time needed for the Allies to turn the tide of that battle into a humiliating Nazi defeat.

141 posted on 10/14/2013 8:21:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sen. Graham to Republicans: 'Face Reality That ObamaCare Cannot Be Stopped'

Anyone who would make such a statement has ABSOLUTELY NO VISION or is a 110% SURRENDER MONKEY.

In either case... PI$$ on YOU Senator Graham!

142 posted on 10/14/2013 8:46:19 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Vigilanteman

Methinks you are correct. :>)

About Graham the BAStard, I stormed BAStogne instead of BAStille

I hope they cut of his NUTS!

(If he has any)


143 posted on 10/14/2013 8:47:10 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Jim Noble
Here’s how to take it: Avoiding 60 million dead is to be desired, if it is possible at this very, very late date.

Even if it means the end of Freedom?

144 posted on 10/14/2013 9:50:08 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Same to you Jim!


145 posted on 10/14/2013 11:40:23 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Jim Robinson

Graham’s loyalties are whatever works for him at the moment-please tell me that useless twit can be primaried next year...


146 posted on 10/14/2013 11:42:05 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: darkwing104

We’ll find out next year if the SC people are as stuck on stupid as their cousins in VA.


147 posted on 10/14/2013 1:20:29 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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