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CíMon, Man - Republicans can turn this around.
American Spectator ^ | October 14, 2013 | Jeff Babbin

Posted on 10/14/2013 4:11:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

....The most important thing the Republicans have to do is make any default Obama’s responsibility. The way to do that is for them to pass today—a “clean” debt ceiling increase to cover a period of two or three months and keep the government shut down. Forget passing anything else, including any conditions attached to the debt ceiling increase. Obama and Reid will use whatever appendages a bill has attached to it as an excuse to turn it down.

If the Republicans do that,there’s still a chance to turn the tables on Obama......The key is to keep the government shut down while increasing the debt ceiling and avoiding what may be the only catastrophe Obama has warned against that actually qualifies as a catastrophe.

People are beginning to see that Obama is perfectly willing to cause America to default on its debts if he’s not given complete control of the federal budget and the debt ceiling......

If Republicans offer the clean debt ceiling increase while keeping the leverage of the government shutdown,Obama may still have to come to the table. And there’s one way to make sure that happens.

No one can bring about Republican unity in the next week or the next year...... what Rush Limbaugh calls the “conservative commentariat”—to at least unify around the idea that the problem isn’t Ted Cruz,Mike Lee,or the Tea Party. The problem is Obama and his minions in the Senate. .....

It’s long past time congressional Republicans quit appearing on television to whine about the fact that the president refuses to meet with them. And to quit talking about the lack of White House leadership. C’mon, man.

.....This is about the president’s willingness — even eagerness — to bring about a default on the nation’s debts if he doesn’t get everything he wants.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; debt; obamacaves; shutdown
If the GOP unites to the Right they will prevail. I don't consider it "turning around" but rather confounding the nay-sayers that "report" that we are losing the battle, the message and the next elections. We are in the ascendency! There should be no turning back.
1 posted on 10/14/2013 4:11:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And I’m sick and tired of the oft-repeated mantra that we will default if the debt ceiling isn’t raised.

That cannot and will not happen according to law and the Constitution.

The debt ceiling increase has nothing to do with whether we can pay our current debts: it has everything to do with giving Obama and the Democrats a blank check to buy more votes.

Republicans should just say Nyet! Make them pay the bills with what they take in now and figure out how to pay for the essentials out of the rest. It’s called “living within your means” and it’s something every other American has to do every single day of our lives!


2 posted on 10/14/2013 4:21:02 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Starve the federal leviathan by denying it what it craves: deficit spending!


3 posted on 10/14/2013 4:22:32 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The battle is over. The Republican Party is dead. 50 years from now it will be seen as a blessing. There will be succession before there is conservativism.


4 posted on 10/14/2013 4:26:27 AM PDT by anton
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To: anton

The battle is not lost it. It’s finally here!

“..........The disconnect between Cruz’s gains and his party’s struggles — as well as the belief held by many of his colleagues and the GOP professional political class that Cruz knows exactly what he’s doing and doesn’t care — has left many GOP operatives fuming at the Texas senator. There’s little question now that if he runs for president in 2016 — and we expect he will — he won’t be the choice of many of the Republicans he serves with and, perhaps more importantly, they will look for ways to make his life on the campaign trail uncomfortable.

But if you believe that fact keeps Ted Cruz up at night, you are wrong. He has never shown much interest in being a party guy — despite the fact that he is a vice chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. His goal is to remake the Republican Party, not trim around the edges of the status quo. That sort of radical change leaves lots of victims in its wake. At the moment, the Republican Party is one of them.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-ted-cruz-won-and-the-gop-lost/2013/10/13/1454152e-3413-11e3-be86-6aeaa439845b_story.html


5 posted on 10/14/2013 4:36:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Stingray
Reid and Boehner negotiating:

I remember when you took it outside and earned respect.

6 posted on 10/14/2013 4:41:35 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too many Republicans today must have had a book called, “The Little Engine that Couldn’t” when they were growing up. Instead of this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Little-Engine-That-Could/dp/0448463598/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1381750736&sr=1-1&keywords=little+engine+who+could


7 posted on 10/14/2013 4:42:56 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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Don't look now but........

The head of the House Democratic campaign committee says the government shutdown has significantly boosted his recruitment efforts

Right. And if you believe that you'll believe that Obama loves America.

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Stuff like that is being reported by the same liars that keep touting this misleading NBC/WSJ poll "showing" that Americans blame Republicans (Hello!! any noodle-ly spines out there - get a grip and press on. That poll is so flawed and weighted, it has ZERO credibility - quit waffling and stop useless poll watching - they're jerking your chain. Throw off your scaredy-cat jitters).

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Hey! Keep causing "snags" - it's frustrating the opposition!

8 posted on 10/14/2013 4:49:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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I am of the opinion that we don't have to turn anything around.
9 posted on 10/14/2013 4:52:54 AM PDT by BlueCat
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We need to put more tea partiers on the RNC but its hard to motivate people to get involved at the state level.


10 posted on 10/14/2013 4:56:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good article. This man is correct.


11 posted on 10/14/2013 4:58:13 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The key is to keep the government shut down while increasing the debt ceiling and avoiding what may be the only catastrophe Obama has warned against that actually qualifies as a catastrophe. =

Bu11$h!t, the revenue to pay the interest is there and will always be there.

12 posted on 10/14/2013 5:08:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Stingray

We need to reduce spending. Start with laying off all the “unessential” federal workers who have been furloughed.


13 posted on 10/14/2013 5:18:27 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

These jokers need to get on the Cruz ship or get off at port retirement. Many of them have already done so much damage to conservatism that they are not redeemable and have to go. Both the “republican” house and senate leaders are two of them.


14 posted on 10/14/2013 5:22:09 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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"People are beginning to see that Obama is perfectly willing to cause America to default on its debts if he’s not given complete control of the federal budget and the debt ceiling......"

Mark Levin has asked the question: What's Obama's end game? He's concluded that Obama's end game is to unilaterally with a 14th Amendment figleaf, raise the debt ceiling himself as urged to by Democrats inside and outside the government.

In 5 years, Congress has done nothing to defend the Constitution. He figures that the GOP Congress will rollover again. He may be right.

15 posted on 10/14/2013 5:24:47 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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Yea, they could, but many of them have turned into Collaborators.


16 posted on 10/14/2013 6:11:24 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The problem on this site is that there are too many Freepers who want the GOP to fail! They exhibit a need to be associated with failure. They are absolutely invested in it and I think they are actually scared to death of a GOP triumph!

Call it masochism, or whatever, but they will never accept the possibility of GOP success. In short, they are pathetic quitters and losers!

17 posted on 10/14/2013 6:39:18 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The problem on this site is that there are too many Freepers who want the GOP to fail! They exhibit a need to be associated with failure. They are absolutely invested in it and I think they are actually scared to death of a GOP triumph!

Call it masochism, or whatever, but they will never accept the possibility of GOP success. In short, they are pathetic quitters and losers!

18 posted on 10/14/2013 6:39:19 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

If the good guys end up writing history, Reid will be covered with obloquy for surrendering the constitutional prerogatives of the Senate for craven political purposes. Loathsome creature, utterly loathsome.


19 posted on 10/14/2013 2:05:00 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (The issue isn't the issue-power is the issue.)
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