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Over 30 Senate Democrats vote to repeal the medical device tax (Now Carrot for McConnell)
Hotair ^ | 3/14/13 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 10/14/2013 10:30:10 AM PDT by Sybeck1

As I mentioned yesterday, the medical device tax that went into effect last January is just one of the many insidious job-killing measures contained within ObamaCare, but it is an especially terrible one. The 2.3 percent excise tax is meant to raise a handsome $30 billion to pay for ObamaCare over the next decade, except that, added bonus: It’s going to stifle innovation and competition in an industry that provides all manner of life-saving medical devices, from MRIs to pacemakers to blood tubes.

And this hasn’t just been a Republican refrain, by the way. Thursday night, the Senate voted overwhelmingly to repeal the medical device tax, with more than 30 Democrats joining in:

The vote was largely symbolic, but the 79-20 tally signals strong opposition to the 2.3% tax on device sales that went into effect Jan. 1. Even though the levy is meant to help foot the bill for the signature legislative achievement of President Barack Obama‘s first term, 33 Democrats as well as independent Sen. Angus King of Maine joined Republican senators in voting to repeal the tax.

The vote came as an amendment to the Senate Democrats’ fiscal year 2014 budget, a partisan tax-and-spending blueprint that stands no chance of passing the GOP-controlled House. Still, the solid bipartisan support shows growing momentum for repealing the tax, which lawmakers have argued hurts U.S. competitiveness and costs highly paid jobs.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R., Utah) introduced the measure earlier Thursday with the support of nine Democrats, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island. I do wonder that some of these Democrats couldn’t summon these same scruples with the health care overhaul when they were falling over themselves to pass the dang thing in 2010, though. Such a shame.

The vote may have been a symbolic one, but nevertheless, this has got to be kind of uncomfortable for the White House: Congress finally managed to find some bipartisan agreement on something, and it’s over just how stupid of a funding-mechanism idea this medical device tax was to begin with.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 113th; barrycades; bhohealthcare; debtceiling; govtshutdown; harryreid; mcconnel; mcconnell; medicaldevicetax; medicaldevises; obamacare; operationwhipcracker; shutdown; taxincrease

1 posted on 10/14/2013 10:30:11 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

From March, McConnell is agreeing to give the Dems just what they want.


2 posted on 10/14/2013 10:30:53 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Defunding does work!! Anyone remember fate of the border fence????)
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To: Sybeck1

This tax is a killer. A buddy of mine invented a small little coated wire tester used in the motherboard construction. It works on many devices but the medical industry accounted for almost 60% of his sales. Since January, he has sold 1-100th of what he needs to sell to keep the doors open. It is because of this tax.


3 posted on 10/14/2013 10:35:44 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Sybeck1
Don't blame McConnell for helping to get rid of a job-killing tax please. This is a good thing that was done here.

The White House is probably steaming mad that their will was undone.

4 posted on 10/14/2013 10:41:00 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Sybeck1
Hahhahahah

Lucy is teeing up the football for Charlie.

5 posted on 10/14/2013 10:41:48 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: bigfootbob

This tax is bad but the problem for the medical device industry is much much bigger. It take an average of 13 years to take a new device through the FDA process. Investors want a return after 10.

A big chunk of the industry has already moved off shore. The rest will be there soon.


6 posted on 10/14/2013 10:43:42 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Sybeck1

They agree not to f/u on a bad act. Let’s apply this rationale to all of Obamacare, instead of Mt. Tortoise, Weepy and Four-eyes concluding,
“Well, our valued colleagues across the aisle are willing to be reasonable, harrumph, harrumph—we recommend bending over ...”.


7 posted on 10/14/2013 10:43:51 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Sybeck1

The medical device tax is exactly what Peter King (RINO-NY) wanted to negotiate on. Not defunding Obamacare. Just negotiate the medical device tax.

It turns out that the democrats don’t want it either. The fact is, the democrats have been admitting that the medical device tax was a mistake almost immediately after Obamacare was rammed down our throats.

Peter King was willing to settle for a compromise on something that even the democrats didn’t want...and then call that a good day’s work.

I am furious over what Peter King expects conservatives to accept as a tough fight and a reasonable compromise...essentially Peter King expects us to accept capitulation disguised as a victory.


8 posted on 10/14/2013 10:54:36 AM PDT by kidd (No blood for ego)
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To: tumblindice

Who is “Mt. Tortoise”?


9 posted on 10/14/2013 10:54:48 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (The issue isn't the issue-power is the issue.)
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To: Sybeck1

Medical device tax?? Don’t stop there!The Truth About the Health Care Bills [A Constitutional lawyer has read the entire bill]

Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009.

I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.

The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government.

However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own.

The irony is that the Congress doesn’t have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, in direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, of all of your personal healthcare information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to have healthcare insurance, or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However , that doesn’t work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the due process of law.

So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much, out the original ten in the Bill of Rights, that are effectively nullified by this law. It doesn’t stop there though.

The 9th Amendment that provides: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people;

The 10th Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to “be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution.” If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.

For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution, and Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.

Michael Connelly

Retired attorney,
Constitutional Law Instructor
Carrollton, Texast stop there.


10 posted on 10/14/2013 10:56:11 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: pluvmantelo

‘Sing Along With Mitch’ McConnell.


11 posted on 10/14/2013 11:03:38 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: DManA

Perhaps, but where ever they go, they will still need these test parts and as it stands right now, nobody is making products. You and I and aunt Elsie who needs a pacemaker or some other device between now and after they get this issue settled are the ones who’ll suffer. My buddy ships worldwide. This just isn’t a USA problem.


12 posted on 10/14/2013 11:04:04 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: bigfootbob
The tax is a killer, but don't ever think that is the reason there is "bipartisan" support for this tax repeal. There aren't 30 democrats is Congress that care about killing jobs, because they will never see the correlation between a tax and jobs.

That repeal has been bought and paid for by the medical device manufacturers. They give their contributions and the Senators vote. I think all politicians should wear sponsor patches like NASCAR drivers. That way you know who they are really working for.

13 posted on 10/14/2013 11:05:16 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: bigfootbob

Important—but a side issue. Former Boehner staffers are lobbyists for the industry. This is a strategy to drive a wedge into the Republican House. RATS give up a little revenue—GOP gives up the country.


14 posted on 10/14/2013 11:08:17 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: USNBandit

I’m glad the manufactures are holding Congress’ feet to the fire. WTF is wrong with that? You sound like a liberal.


15 posted on 10/14/2013 11:08:46 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: SC_Pete

Pretzel logic.


16 posted on 10/14/2013 11:09:33 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Sybeck1

After taking away his dinner, Reid throws McConnell a bone.

Will McConnell slobber all over it???


17 posted on 10/14/2013 11:13:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: bigfootbob

No, it’s pretty straight forward. Take a dime, give me a million.


18 posted on 10/14/2013 11:14:34 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Sybeck1

Why would the Republicans even consider changing this law? This is insane. I heard last week that congress has passed 19 different laws to the ACA. Why? Let this bill stand on its on! The more you tweak it the more it becomes a massive unfunded liability. This law is now over 20K pages and a complete mess. The only deal the Republicans should make on this law is repeal!.


19 posted on 10/14/2013 11:24:32 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: tumblindice

Ah! I thought Mitch was Four-eyes. So, who is Four-eyes?


20 posted on 10/14/2013 11:33:26 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (The issue isn't the issue-power is the issue.)
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To: Sybeck1

The Democrats CHOSE to destroy American innovation,
and then went on TO ARM al Qaeda.


21 posted on 10/14/2013 11:41:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: pluvmantelo

Who who who— what are you, an owl? ;^)
Who wears glasses besides Mr. Tortoise.
Here’s a hint: Barry has a ‘body man.’
Juan McCain has one too.

He’s John Boehner’s butt-boy.


22 posted on 10/14/2013 11:44:55 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Don Corleone

Obamacare is HR 3590, not HR 3200. That essay seems to be from 2009 and outdated.


23 posted on 10/14/2013 11:45:43 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Uncle Chip

McConnell, McStain, Graham, Alexander, Corkerhold etc... will be lapping this up like starving dogs on their own vomit.


24 posted on 10/14/2013 11:45:56 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: martinidon

worthwhile fundamental research and development often takes years and millions of dollars with uncertainties and risks.

stopping fundamental research and development now dries up the funding pipeline and essentially dismantles the R&D infrastructure that took decades to build. restarting the pipeline may take billions of dollars once knowhow is lost or transferred overseas.


25 posted on 10/14/2013 11:50:18 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

HR3590 has more than 2000 pages but here is a summary, only 49 pages…..

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR03590:@@@D&summ2=3&;

In the HR3590 summary, the words “Requires the Secretary” (of DHS) appear 98 times and “Directs the Secretary” appears 64 times. “Authorizes the Secretary” appears 30 times. The law gives a tremendous amount of power to one individual, Kathleen Sebelius, who “serves only at the will of the President” and was NOT elected by We, the People. It is Congress who makes the laws, NOT Katleen Sebelius and Not Barack Obama.

The Democrat Congress passed Obamacare and gave the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) free reign to do whatever it damn well pleases. Obamacare is making determinations as to what taxes citizens are required to pay. That too is the Constitutional responsibility given to Congress. Has Congress relinquished its Constitutional responsibility when it passed Obamacare? If so, they better take it back before it’s too late. This law clearly violates the Constitution separation of powers.


26 posted on 10/14/2013 12:02:26 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Jonah Vark

agreed...


27 posted on 10/14/2013 12:06:00 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Sybeck1

Not seeing a Kenyan problem here. 79 Senate votes to repeal is a super majority meaning that the Kenyan’s sniveling veto, if he does it, is OVER RIDEABLE. Surely the House can vote to override. So, c’mon Boner-—lets get to over riding. If Reid won’t bring up a vote to over ride then his snake oil road show will be obvious to all.


28 posted on 10/14/2013 12:59:50 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

IT will be hailed a tea party victory when it in fact will give some lobbyists what they want. Nothing for the little man.


29 posted on 10/14/2013 1:02:35 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Defunding does work!! Anyone remember fate of the border fence????)
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To: Sybeck1

This equals =the house was on fire but we saved the chimney.


30 posted on 10/14/2013 1:16:10 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Sybeck1

As much of an effect as a spoonful of water removed from the ocean


31 posted on 10/14/2013 1:36:33 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Jonah Vark

http://www.dhs.gov/


32 posted on 10/14/2013 2:37:07 PM PDT by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: Sybeck1

Thought I heard (read in an article?) the medical device industry had gone along with the tax in the bill because more people would be needing to buy medical devices now (since ACA adds so many new people to the system).

Guess the medical device industry has changed its mind. I’ll have to look for that article or discussion online I saw back in August. Maybe I heard wrong.


33 posted on 10/14/2013 2:58:25 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: bigfootbob
The manufacturers aren't holding anybody's feet to the fire. They are buying influence, just like the green energy non-producers, AFL-CIO, and the NEA.

Follow the money and stop slinging around the L word.

34 posted on 10/14/2013 3:35:22 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

The medical device industry and the insurance industry could have ensured zerocare never saw the light of day. Instead they assisted in it’s “passing”. Useful idiots all.


35 posted on 10/14/2013 3:59:45 PM PDT by kneehurts
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To: kneehurts

One has to marvel why these folks would push for this Pelosi-pandered pig in a poke.

We’re weary and wowed by the world, is why.

Well, evil like this is God’s wake up call to us.


36 posted on 10/14/2013 4:02:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Sybeck1

so to make us feel like we really done something, we’re going to get this medical device tax repeal...big whooping poop.....


37 posted on 10/14/2013 5:03:47 PM PDT by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: kidd

"The medical device tax is exactly what Peter King (RINO-NY) wanted to negotiate on. Not defunding Obamacare. Just negotiate the medical device tax.

It turns out that the democrats don’t want it either...Peter King was willing to settle for a compromise on something that even the democrats didn’t want...and then call that a good day’s work.

Yep. The guy really is a vile piece of work.

38 posted on 10/14/2013 8:05:46 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Sybeck1

These democrat senators have companies that make medical devices in their states. The republicans just gave them cover. Utah! What the hell is wrong with you?


39 posted on 10/14/2013 9:01:59 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Sybeck1.
...the medical device tax that went into effect last January is just one of the many insidious job-killing measures contained within ObamaCare, but it is an especially terrible one... to stifle innovation and competition in an industry that provides all manner of life-saving medical devices, from MRIs to pacemakers to blood tubes... Senate voted overwhelmingly to repeal the medical device tax, with more than 30 Democrats joining in... the 79-20 tally signals strong opposition to the 2.3% tax on device sales that went into effect Jan. 1.

40 posted on 10/15/2013 3:49:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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