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15 Years Later, Where Did All The Cigarette Money Go?
NPR ^ | October 13, 2013

Posted on 10/14/2013 10:32:10 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

teachers union pensions


21 posted on 10/14/2013 10:59:43 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: nickcarraway

In sum, the article does not tell us where the “cigarette money” went.


22 posted on 10/14/2013 11:01:48 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: nickcarraway
Well, I do know that Mike Moore's dear friend Dickie Scruggs used a lot of the Tobacco money to bribe judges and politicians. Then he had to spend a huge chuck if it trying to stay out of jail for bribing judges and politicians. Unsuccessfully. Y'all remember Dickie Scruggs, Trent Lott's brother in law.
I still find it amusing that Old Trent ‘retired’ within a week of Dickie being indicted. Of course there was nothing to see there so the media never did check in to it too deeply. Riiiiiiiight.
23 posted on 10/14/2013 11:02:03 AM PDT by Tupelo (Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, an old Republican Tradition.)
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To: nickcarraway

Wisconsin Democrats blew ours on hookers and booze...and three TV Ads.

Think I’m lyin?


24 posted on 10/14/2013 11:02:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: nickcarraway
"When you are supplying the most widely used addictive product in the world, you have certain advantages," he says.

Gubmint entitlements are the most widely used addictive product in the world.

25 posted on 10/14/2013 11:06:35 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: nickcarraway

This guy is a genius. Less nicotine in cigarettes. So is you cut the amount in half, people will smoke twice as many!!!! That’s a real game changer genius!


26 posted on 10/14/2013 11:06:39 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Seattle Conservative
Here in WA State, IIRC (it’s been years ago)all the extra Lottery money was supposed to go primarily to education,
That was supposed to be the same deal with the NY Lottery. They swore up and down the lottery proceeds would go toward education, to alleviate school taxes. Yeah, right!
27 posted on 10/14/2013 11:09:34 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: DonaldC
It probably went to education....for the children you know for the chirruns noahm sayin'?

Fixed it
28 posted on 10/14/2013 11:09:44 AM PDT by jrg
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To: oldbrowser

OH how i hate those commerical’s


29 posted on 10/14/2013 11:23:12 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

I once had a relative give me a small cash horde as a gift. A year later, I asked myself the same thing.

Most of it went to buy gold, silver, and bullets.

Then much of it went to pay college tuition.

I bought some beer with what was left.

I think I still have $100 of it.


30 posted on 10/14/2013 11:25:59 AM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: Hardraade
Where did it go?

LMBO!!
Most of the money went to the trial lawyers who then kicked back to the Democrat party in the form of "campaign donations".
The rest went into various poitical slush funds.

I thought everybody understood this at the time of the settlements?

31 posted on 10/14/2013 11:31:12 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nickcarraway

IIRC, the law firm for the state of Florida tobacco case pocketed a cool $1 Billion!


32 posted on 10/14/2013 11:35:59 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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To: Beagle8U

http://www.uky.edu/CommInfoStudies/IRJCI/tobaccoreport.htm

“The $206 million invested so far in Kentucky agriculture has helped shake farmers’ historic allegiance to tobacco, encouraged diversification and upgraded the state’s cattle industry, the largest in the Eastern U.S.”

“Not only did the money provide incentives, each of the county-level programs – diversification, storage, fencing, forage, cattle handling, cattle genetics and on-farm water supplies – require farmers who get matching grants or forgivable loans to take training in the subject. Rogers said the programs are helping about 12,000 farmers per year.”


33 posted on 10/14/2013 11:39:38 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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To: nickcarraway

Where did all that cigarette money go? All those fat cat lawyers and politicians . . . . mmmmmm . . . wait a minute . . . those are the same one and the same.


34 posted on 10/14/2013 11:46:00 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Little Ray
What I can’t wait to see is what happens when it stops...

As we speak... sales of Ecigs and vaporizers are skyrocketing - I would guess in 1 year the sales of tobacco alternatives are going to drop "cigarette" taxes to the point where the whiners will want to further ratchet up the taxes. That will further push smokers to ECig/vaporizer where they get their nicotine juice from on-line chemists who are not paying "cig" taxes.

Collapse of a large number of liberal entitlements. Works for me.

35 posted on 10/14/2013 11:47:43 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: Seattle Conservative

I don’t know how old you are or if you are a veteran, so you may or may not remember this. About 1972 or ‘73, some Vietnam vets in WA started to ask questions about war bonuses for WA war vets. Going back to earlier wars, the state had always paid a bonus to those who had seen combat, paid for with a special cigarette tax. When this came up, Olynpia claimed there was no money available to pay such a bonus. A little bit of digging turned up the inconvenient fact that the state had continued to collect that tax over the years, long after all eligible vets had been paid. Oops!! Checks for $200 were soon in the mail.

Much like the Spanish-American War telephone tax that was finally repealed in 2006, it goes to show that once a tax is enacted, it’s nearly impossible to get rid of. Once people forget about it, the money just gets diverted into somebody else’s pet project. So it is with the lottery, which, as we all know, is nothing more than a tax on the mathematically-challenged.


36 posted on 10/14/2013 11:59:50 AM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Vermont Lt

Yep, spent most of it on liquor, poker, and wild women. The rest of it I wasted.


37 posted on 10/14/2013 12:03:26 PM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: corkoman

Most of the tobacco money is already spent. In fact, many states pulled a JG Wentworth and have issued bonds to use the money before it ever arrived. They were anticipating the tobacco settlement payments will cover the money they were already spending. The NYT did a story on this back in 2012 when Nassau County was already in this predicament and in danger of defaulting on the bond payments.

State Bonds in Jeopardy as Tobacco Cash Fades

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/04/business/state-bonds-backed-by-tobacco-payments-in-jeopardy-of-default.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


38 posted on 10/14/2013 12:04:40 PM PDT by squeegee boy
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To: squeegee boy
Wow - so they already baked future tax revenues into the bonds.


39 posted on 10/14/2013 12:28:07 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: squeegee boy

Maybe they’ll get a QTE(Quantitative Tobacco Easing) :)


40 posted on 10/14/2013 12:29:53 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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