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Jose Guerena Vindicated: Widow Receives $3.4M Settlement from Arizona Police
PJ Media ^ | Oct 13, 2013 | Mike McDaniel

Posted on 10/14/2013 12:20:34 PM PDT by bkopto

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1 posted on 10/14/2013 12:20:34 PM PDT by bkopto
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Now that the department has admitted culpability, it’s time to hold each individual swat member involved in the raid.


2 posted on 10/14/2013 12:23:28 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: bkopto
Same old story.

Taxpayers get screwed, murderous thugs go untouched.

3 posted on 10/14/2013 12:26:31 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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Note that the $3.4 million is from the taxpayer. The officers who played Rambo that day should be held PERSONALLY liable. As it stands, there has been no justice served for Jose or his poor family.
4 posted on 10/14/2013 12:26:55 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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Now that the department has admitted culpability, it’s time to hold (accountable) each individual swat member involved in the raid.

I have no doubt that each of them will face a stern backslapping and a speedy promotion.

5 posted on 10/14/2013 12:28:01 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again. 969)
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Only the commons go to prison.


6 posted on 10/14/2013 12:30:52 PM PDT by Theoria
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If US Soldiers did something like this in Afghanistan, they’d be war criminals.

But if cops do this to an American family, they are “heroes.”


7 posted on 10/14/2013 12:31:14 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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There’s a link on the article of the actual head cam video of this horrible event, 54 seconds in length. Those officers were shooting into a darkened room and in no way could they have known what they were shooting at. That room could have been filled with sleeping babies for all they knew. Where are the murder charges?


8 posted on 10/14/2013 12:32:38 PM PDT by Shannon
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I only wish that settlement would have come out of the police retirement funds.


9 posted on 10/14/2013 12:34:42 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To Protect and To Serve.


10 posted on 10/14/2013 12:47:17 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Uncle Chip

That is a excellent idea. They should have some skin in the game and the pack won’t tolerate rogue behavior that will affect their loot.


11 posted on 10/14/2013 12:48:50 PM PDT by guyfromjrz (fresh breath, it speaks for itself.)
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Now that the department has admitted culpability,

Where did you see that?

12 posted on 10/14/2013 12:51:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Now that is a good idea.


13 posted on 10/14/2013 12:51:59 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Moonman62

You’re right. I may have jumped the gun when they were made to pay restitution.


14 posted on 10/14/2013 12:52:37 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
"If US Soldiers did something like this in Afghanistan, they’d be war criminals."

You're right.

Fort Bragg, N.C. — A military jury on Thursday found a Fort Bragg Army lieutenant guilty of murder in the shooting deaths of two Afghan civilians more than a year ago during a military mission.

Prosecutors characterized 1st Lt. Clint Lorance, 28, with Fort Bragg's 82nd Airborne Division's 4th Brigade Combat Team, as aggressive toward Afghans and argued that he illegally ordered the fatal shootings of two men on motorcycles in Afghanistan's Kandahar province.

Lorance's attorney, Ret. Lt. Col. Guy Womack, has said his client was protecting his platoon, which had suffered multiple casualties in the weeks prior to the July 2, 2012, incident, and that intelligence information and helicopters over the area of the attack in Afghanistan's Kandahar Province, warned the platoon to be on the lookout for men on motorcycles.

"I am bitterly disappointed," Womack said. "Lt. Lorance is an outstanding officer who made a decision to engage a suspected enemy approaching his position and now has been declared a murderer. The members heard all the evidence and I am confident they made the decision they believe is correct, but it is a crushing blow for those of us who know Lt. Lorance."

Lorance was also found guilty on charges of attempted murder, wrongfully communicating a threat, wrongfully and willfully discharging a firearm into a populated village and impeding the investigation into the shootings.

He was sentenced to 20 years in a military prison, forfeiture of all pay and dismissal from the U.S. Army.

15 posted on 10/14/2013 12:53:42 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats h ave sided with our enemy.)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Good point


16 posted on 10/14/2013 12:55:36 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: bkopto

No more drug war, no more payouts for raids gone wrong.


17 posted on 10/14/2013 12:57:47 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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“but the officers performed that day in accordance with their training and nationally recognized standards.”

Perhaps someone should review the training and national standards?? just a thought


18 posted on 10/14/2013 12:57:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I discourage any young man interested in military service. Luckily all my children have done their 3 combat tours and gotten out.


19 posted on 10/14/2013 12:59:56 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Since these police were out of control paramilitaries, that themselves represent a major threat to the peace and security of the people in that region, and since there seems to be no practical way of restraining their actions in the future, the best alternative would seem to be an armored “safe room”, that they cannot penetrate before help arrives.

A standard design could be created for such a safe room that could be installed below ground level, and would provide protection from several common threats, including tornadoes.

The basic body is made of precast reinforced concrete pipe, which is quite common, large enough to accommodate 3 people for several hours. It also needs a long concealed air ventilation pipe with a battery powered overpressure air pump, and some means of communication that cannot be interrupted or intercepted, which means underground land line. Finally, a steel door in a steel frame that cannot be penetrated with small arms.


20 posted on 10/14/2013 1:00:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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