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Looks like Senate Repubs are willing to sell EVERYTHING out to get the MEdical Devices Tax cut, NOT ABOLISHED, and claim "VICTORY!". (Which pretty much means the end of the Republican Party as a political force)
1 posted on 10/14/2013 2:09:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Senate Repubs were supposed to meet with Boehner, right now, but it seems that has now been delayed to Tuesday morning, per FOX


2 posted on 10/14/2013 2:09:52 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Does it include an across-the-board spending cut? If not, then it’s worthless.


3 posted on 10/14/2013 2:11:35 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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I have heard the medical device tax is one of the main ways they were planning on getting funds for Obamacare?

They’ll repeal that tax and charge the general public a bigger tax in general for it. Bend over America here it comes again!


4 posted on 10/14/2013 2:11:46 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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Who cares about the medical device tax cut. I don’t manufacture medical devices. I could care less if they get a tax cut or not. Why does the GOP continue to fall on it’s sword? (I know stupid question) Listen to “We the People”!


5 posted on 10/14/2013 2:13:15 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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The Dems have a long history of not keeping their part of any agreement they have ever made with the ‘Pubbies.

Why should we think they’ll keep this one? This is just another episode of “kick the can down the road”!


9 posted on 10/14/2013 2:18:55 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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The medical device tax is not a concession. Everyone agreed it was bad and had to go. There had better be budget cuts in this.


12 posted on 10/14/2013 2:19:39 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: tcrlaf
As long as we keep sequestration level spending, it is not the worst thing in the world.

We need a few months of focus on one thing - the disaster called Obamacare. Once people see it isn't free and the supposed subsidies suck, it just could die of its own weight.

Clearly, even if the users loved it (won't), once the numbers start coming out of how expensive the actual care is to the gov’t (premiums won't be close to covering the costs), people might just rise up.

Points were made but we just keep getting killed by the press. Let's get past Christmas (there, I actually said it - not “the holidays”!) and deal in 2014; closer to, probably, the most important non-Presidential election in years.

14 posted on 10/14/2013 2:22:09 PM PDT by dan on the right
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The house needs to shoot this down.

Just keep the debt ceiling in place until 2014. Obama is bluffing. He’ll have to cut spending and there will be no default.


17 posted on 10/14/2013 2:23:38 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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From Yahoo News:

“The Senate Democratic aide said that the final deal will probably include some income-verification measure with regards to obtaining subsidies for health insurance through the Affordable Care Act.

But it wouldn’t be anything “too impactful that changes ability to enroll in any meaningful way,” the aide said. The House passed a bill in September along party lines that would require the Department of Health and Human Services inspector general to set up a verification program before it grants subsidies.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/theres-big-meeting-white-house-160117402.html


19 posted on 10/14/2013 2:25:36 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Basically sequestration goes forward with a new round in cuts in growth in Jan '14. That basically remains the same, then, even though Dems don't like it.

There is a rollback in an Obamacare tax.

And talks continue into an election year...which Reid et al did not want.

24 posted on 10/14/2013 2:28:43 PM PDT by what's up
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Unacceptable —

Why not make the 15% nonessential part of government permanent, subtract that from the budget, and then there won’t be any need to raise the debt limit.


25 posted on 10/14/2013 2:29:36 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Sure looks like doormat RINOS Boehner and McConnell are a-fixin’ to cave in AGAIN to the Obama-Reid Regime.


29 posted on 10/14/2013 2:42:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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time to get on the phones to the usual GOPe suspects:

especially the turncoat ayotte. you know: mcconnell, cornyn, corker, collins, murky, alexander, etc., etc.


30 posted on 10/14/2013 2:42:49 PM PDT by dadfly
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Flipping dials to get feel from all sides, came across Gloria Borger on CNN, they just released the latest poll from ABC/WASHPOST

Poll had blame this way...

74% Rep
61% Dems

I don’t buy the science of political polling, but nevertheless I thought that was pretty good for R, seeing the source

Gloria Borger needs to learn to count, she said 20 points difference there???

Gloria it`s only 13 points difference


37 posted on 10/14/2013 2:55:29 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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Bernie Sanders -I—VT- calls members of House of Representatives “right wing extremists”-
WCAX tv Burlington VT broadcast now but nothing on their website wcax.com


38 posted on 10/14/2013 2:57:11 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.)))
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The House must push this until:

(a) the public sees Obamacare for what it is (this will take a few weeks, but only if the government is under the gun): and

(b) the public realizes that the sky will not fall (no default, life goes on).

Today's 'deal' destroys the progress to date and takes the pressure off. No one will want to hear from Ted Cruz and the Tea Party caucus again in January. It will be old news. The public will conclude that Cruz lost and Obama won.

What is the rationale, in the public's mind, for delaying only the House leverage but not Obamacare? There is only one reason and it is that Cruz lost the PR battle. It is then over; there is no rerun. We can't stop and then start again. The voters won't tolerate that.

In addition, the shutdown is hamstringing the immigration amnesty conspirators. Remove it and we'll see an immigration bill going through the House before Thanksgiving.

Today's 'deal' would pave the way for amnesty next month and single-payer healthcare before Obama's term ends.

Ted Cruz was right. The only time to stand against this monster is now.

40 posted on 10/14/2013 3:06:37 PM PDT by Kennard
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