Posted on 10/14/2013 5:34:12 PM PDT by bd476
I think you’re being a little hasty. Best to think positive and learn a little first.
While I do understand your frustration because I have felt the pinch myself, the metric system has been actively and voluntarily used in the scientific community for decades, by the American military since before WWII and in some American sporting events since the 1960s.
Yes,it is sad when there is loss of life. I can see Bohol from my beach. It is not far from here.
Note for those interested in earthquake notification, the USGS will send you an Email whenever there is a quake in the world.
Sign up here:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/neic/
I have been on their list for a few years. I see that they are now somewhat shutdown thanks to the Marxist In Chief.
“This is the muzzie Island right?”
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NO, it is not.
Prayers needed.....big earthquake in the Philippines. FReepers in the area.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3078944/posts?page=59#59
Glad you and yours are okay Alex.
California is scheduled for its Annual Shake-Out Earthquake
Safety Preparation Awareness Day on October 17, 2013 yet
local Geologists and Seismologists from USGS and CalTech
have been noticeably absent from the media since the shutdown.
That USGS mailing list has been flooding my inbox for years.
Still having small after-shocks, but no problem.
Thanks Kathy!
No problem....been thru a few quakes myself, but not in the center yet. Hopefully never.
Prayers up for everyone.
Alex, you probably know this already, but aftershocks are earthquakes. An aftershock is no less an earthquake than a primary quake and often does as much damage. The seismic waves from the primary earthquake in the 1994 Northridge earthquake triggered a devastating earthquake 15 miles South and East of the epicenter on a fault line no one knew existed prior to that day. Yet because it followed the first quake, it was labeled an aftershock.
Stay safe and stay away from tall buildings and power lines as much as you possibly can for the next several days.
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| Image from USGS website |
MANILA (3rd UPDATE) A magnitude 7.2 quake hit Bohol on Tuesday morning, the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) said.
Phivolcs said the quake occurred 2 kilometers southeast of Carmen town at 8:12 a.m.
Four people were initially reported dead in Cebu City, according to Office of Civil Defense Region 7 Director Minda Morante.
Morante said the four people died after a structure collapsed in Pasil Fish Port at the height of the quake.
Phivolcs said the following quake intensities were felt:
The quake, which was tectonic in origin, struck at a depth of about 33 km, Phivolcs said. The USGS also measured the magnitude of the quake at 7.2 but said the quake had a depth of 56.8 kms.
The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii, meanwhile, said there was no threat of a Pacific-wide tsunami after the quake.
Phivolcs said damage and aftershocks are expected from the quake.
Radio DYAB reporter June Perez, who is based in Cebu City, said the quake was felt in the city for about 30 seconds.
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| Collapsed bell tower of the oldest church in the country, Basilica Minore Del Santo Niño in Downtown Cebu City. Photo courtesy of Cebu Bayan Patroller |
"Malakas ang pagyanig na aabot ng mga halos mga 30 seconds na malakas na paglindol," Perez told dzMM.
Perez said he also received reports that the quake felt was felt in parts of Southern Leyte province. - with a report from Dexter Ganibe, dzMM
I understand all that, but using metric as a numeric language when communicating to the broad American public is guaranteed to inflict blanks of non-comprehension on most recipients.
I honestly appreciate it when I'm watching a science program and a scientist takes the care to speak to his American audience in units of measure they instantly recognize. Being somewhat of a junkie for that sort of programming, I know that he's consciously going the distance to achieve simple understanding on the part of his viewers.
The ubiquitous usage of metric units of measure in the common dialog is a pet peeve of mine. For me, it's just another invalidation and rejection of my American culture by the same forces that don't like my language or my heritage on this continent.
They're forcing me to be illiterate and innumerate in my own country.
“Alex, you probably know this already, but aftershocks are earthquakes.”
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Yes, of course, but these are barely noticeable. One would have to be sitting still, as I am, to even notice them.
15 Oct 2013 - 01:12 PM 09.78 123.87 005 4.2 015 km N 6° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 01:12 PM 09.78 123.87 005 4.2 015 km N 6° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 12:36 AM 09.84 123.91 008 4.5 009 km N 40° W of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 12:22 PM 09.93 124.10 053 4.8 042 km N 40° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 11:42 AM 09.71 123.80 001 3.1 009 km N 40° W of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 11:39 AM 09.83 123.95 001 3.0 022 km N 26° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 11:34 AM 09.84 123.88 001 3.9 022 km N 8° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 11:29 AM 09.82 123.92 017 2.9 021 km N 20° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 11:22 AM 10.03 124.16 008 2.9 055 km N 38° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 11:19 AM 09.91 124.07 010 3.1 038 km N 38° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 11:00 AM 09.79 123.98 015 3.1 021 km N 40° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 10:42 AM 09.85 124.03 016 4.2 030 km N 39° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 10:36 AM 09.91 124.03 003 3.9 035 km N 33° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 10:31 AM 09.81 123.99 029 3.2 023 km N 40° E of Tagbilaran City
15 Oct 2013 - 09:37 AM 10.01 124.21 016 4.3 021 km N 6° E of Carmen (Bohol)
15 Oct 2013 - 09:30 AM 09.84 124.03 007 3.7 002 km N 53° E of Catigbian (Bohol)
15 Oct 2013 - 09:07 AM 09.99 124.25 018 3.7 020 km N 19° W of Carmen (Bohol)
15 Oct 2013 - 08:28 AM 09.91 124.14 023 3.4 011 km N 32° W of Carmen (Bohol)
15 Oct 2013 - 08:12 AM 09.80 124.20 033 7.2 002 km S 16° E of Carmen (Bohol)
15 Oct 2013 - 01:01 AM 09.94 126.05 008 3.4 004 km S 65° E of San Benito (Surigao del Norte)
14 Oct 2013 - 08:48 PM 13.80 121.84 032 2.3 014 km S 17° E of Padre Burgos (Quezon)
14 Oct 2013 - 07:59 PM 06.95 126.26 084 4.1 005 km S 87° E of Mati (Davao Oriental)
14 Oct 2013 - 06:59 PM 15.02 120.05 083 3.4 002 km N 83° W of San Narciso (Zambales)
14 Oct 2013 - 06:15 PM 10.81 126.05 132 3.2 044 km S 56° E of Guiuan (Eastern Samar)
14 Oct 2013 - 03:11 PM 10.97 124.61 007 2.6 003 km S 08° E of Ormoc City
14 Oct 2013 - 05:16 AM 05.86 125.51 026 3.0 012 km S 79° W of Jose Abad Santos (Trinidad) (Davao del Sur)
14 Oct 2013 - 01:36 AM 04.36 127.70 095 3.5 274 km S 64° E of Sarangani (Davao del Sur)
13 Oct 2013 - 11:19 PM 07.17 124.78 013 3.1 004 km S 21° W of Carmen (North Cotabato)
13 Oct 2013 - 08:30 PM 13.54 121.46 001 4.0 029 km S 66° E of Lobo (Batangas)
13 Oct 2013 - 06:32 PM 05.87 125.50 025 3.5 045 km S 54° E of General Santos City
13 Oct 2013 - 01:13 PM 13.47 121.80 022 1.9 004 km N 66° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 12:50 PM 13.53 121.57 005 1.8 030 km N 74° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 11:14 AM 13.50 121.58 009 2.4 028 km N 78° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 10:27 AM 13.53 121.49 002 3.5 040 km N 77° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 07:20 AM 13.61 121.69 021 2.8 024 km N 42° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 04:41 AM 13.52 121.68 017 3.0 019 km N 65° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 04:28 AM 13.60 121.61 021 3.3 029 km N 57° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 04:12 AM 13.51 121.61 013 2.5 025 km N 76° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 03:57 AM 11.46 124.99 012 2.5 024 km N 4° E of Tacloban City
13 Oct 2013 - 03:16 AM 13.65 121.74 023 2.5 025 km N 26° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 02:46 AM 13.59 121.61 018 4.2 030 km N 58° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 02:40 AM 13.50 121.53 008 3.5 034 km N 81° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 01:58 AM 13.51 121.71 017 1.8 015 km N 63° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 01:44 AM 13.52 121.67 016 1.4 020 km N 67° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 01:08 AM 13.63 121.63 015 2.6 030 km N 48° W of Boac (Marinduque)
13 Oct 2013 - 12:55 AM 13.68 121.60 015 3.6 036 km N 45° W of Boac (Marinduque)
12 Oct 2013 - 10:54 PM 13.57 121.54 007 2.5 035 km N 67° W of Boac (Marinduque)
12 Oct 2013 - 10:05 PM 07.31 126.37 016 3.1 021 km S 84° W of Caraga (Davao Oriental)
12 Oct 2013 - 09:06 PM 13.35 121.62 001 3.0 026 km S 66° W of Boac (Marinduque)
12 Oct 2013 - 07:45 PM 05.21 126.89 050 4.0 159 km S 81° E of Sarangani (Davao Del Sur)
12 Oct 2013 - 06:59 PM 13.79 121.76 031 2.1 015 km S 18° W of Padre Burgos (Quezon)
12 Oct 2013 - 06:33 PM 13.50 121.52 006 4.5 029 km N 24° W of Boac (Marinduque)
shake rattle and roll!!!!!!!
Good to hear, Alex. I just posted the list of earthquakes prior to and following the 7.1 Mag earthquake. Those aftershocks have been small. Here's a hope that any more earthquakes connected to the 7.1 earthquake are also that small.
While it would not be out of the ordinary for a large, or even a major aftershock to occur, the further distance in time from the major primary earthquake, there is a drop in the percentage likelihood that a major or even larger aftershock would occur.
Here's the list : List of Recent Earthquakes from the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology
Prayers continue for all affected by this earthquake.
Praying! - Thanks, Kathy, for the ping.
2:43 PM, another aftershock...stronger then the last few.
Please be safe Alex....praying for all there....
Aw, I hear you yet do not agree that you're illiterate because undoubtedly you have a career lingo of your own which outside others don't understand. Each field seems to have its own lingo.
Generally speaking some scientists have a difficult time putting concepts which are simple for them to understand into everyday language that anyone outside of their community will also understand. After they've sunk their time, energy and money for 4 years college, then 4+ years grad school education; and then written research papers to be read and appreciated (or not) by their peers, it's easy to understand how difficult it might be for some of them to remember how to communicate with anyone outside of their specialty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32z0xXMG4YE#t=205
American scientists who were born and raised in this country, learned the standard English measurement system long before encountering the metric system in college.
Because they're Americans, the English system of measure is their 'first language'. They haven't forgotten it, and can communicate simple concepts of measure in that language just as fluently as they can in the metric language.
Those who speak to laymen on regular basis, do them a disservice by using a language they have no practical experience with. It actually creates non-comprehension in the recipient.
Say the word 'kilometer' to me, and I know that it's shorter than a mile, but I don't have any real world estimate of how long a kilometer really is. On the other hand, I've walked many a mile, and have an innate sense of that linear proportion. Communicating units of distance in terms of miles creates an instant understanding of the approximate quantity of distance in my mind.
The exact reverse would happen if you communicated units of measure in the English system to an audience of people who live in a metric based country.
Earth Quake, Sismos @EarthQuake_glob 3m 4.8 earthquake, 67km E of Iwaki, Japan. Oct 15 14:58 at epicenter (25m ago, depth 31km).
http://j.mp/17qJbj3
“The exact reverse would happen if you communicated units of measure in the English system to an audience of people who live in a metric based country”.
Exactly right...I have limited understanding of the metric system of measurement so I have to use a chart. In general conversation though I am lost.
More than 30 people now confirmed dead after Philippines earthquake:...expect more yet to be reported.
Geesh...every time I get ready to post, there is another after-shock!!!Now 3:16 PM
My sister in law called from the city, just after the quake. She said people were going wild, running from buildings, into the streets.
It’s alarming to all no doubt...after shocks are felt as keenly as the first..in some cases moreso as people’s emotions run higher as they go....
Stay safe there..praying most will escape this.
Based on initial reports, World Vision In the Phillipines says... “Sagbayan” is the hardest hit.
Hello Alex.
I hope you are well.
Who is helping the helping the earthquake victims and how much damage is the local news reporting?
Thanks Caww for posting these photos.
Thank you for the ping bd476 to your thread bd476.
I appreciate your follow-ups.
Praying for all of you in the Philippines affected by this earthquake.
In Jesus’ Holy Name.
Amen.
7.2-magnitude quake hits Bohol, Cebu; 20 killed
Tuesday, October 15, 2013
CEBU (10th Update) A powerful magnitude-7.2 earthquake jolted Carmen, Bohol and other parts of the Visayas and Mindanao Tuesday morning, killing at least 20 persons and injuring dozens others.
At least 15 people were confirmed killed in Cebu City, four in Bohol and one in Siquijor.
The National Disaster Risk Reduction Management Council (NDRRMC), in a press briefing, said 33 others were reported injured during the earthquake. The report said 19 people were injured in Mandaue City when a portion of the public market collapsed, six in Toledo City and eight in Pinamungahan were injured in a stampede.
Cebu City Vice Mayor Edgar Labella said in radio interview that the four were killed after a slab from the fish market fell on them.
"We're quite fortunate today is a holiday, not too many people in (office) buildings," he said.
Another report said two persons were killed when part of a public market in Mandaue City in Cebu collapsed. Seventeen others were reportedly injured.
Neil Sanchez of the local disaster council in Cebu told ANC that a school building has collapsed in Talisay City and several schoolchildren were trapped in the debris.
Damage to property have been observed in Cebu and Bohol, where centuries-old churches in Loon and Loboc towns collapsed.
The famous Baclayon church, meanwhile, had cracks in its facade and damaged bell fray, said Tagbilaran Archbishop Leonardo Medroso.
"The provincial disaster risk reduction management council is already busy with the rescue efforts. We assure our people that the provincial government is extending assistance to the affected residents," said Bohol Provincial Board Member Yul Lopez in a television interview.
A magnitude-6.8 quake also jolted Bohol in February 1990, which triggered a tsunami
Philippine Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) Director Renato Solidum Jr. said in a radio interview that there is no indication the quake can cause a tsunami and damage since its origin is inland.
Phivolcs has so far recorded 110 aftershocks since the magnitude 7.2 earthquake hit Bohol at 8:12 Tuesday morning.
Location of the earthquake that hit Carmen, Bohol on Tuesday, October 15, 2013. (Source: Phivolcs)
Radio reports said the quake was felt in Cebu and parts of Negros Oriental, and even as far as Iligan City in Mindanao.
Phivolcs said the quake occurred at 8:12 a.m., with the epicenter at 2 kilometers southeast of Carmen in Bohol. It was tectonic in origin.
Several structures were destroyed in Bohol, including the centuries old churches in Loboc and Loon. Three people were reportedly trapped.
Bohol was last hit by a powerful earthquake in 1999.
Several buildings in Cebu collapsed or have sustained damage, including the centuries old Basilica Minore del Sto. Nino in downtown Cebu City.
In Iloilo, the quake prompted motorists to stop vehicles and many people to run out of buildings. A brownout hit Iloilo City after the quake. Construction workers at a construction site in Mandurriao in Iloilo quickly left the site when they felt the quake.
The Philippine Coast Guard on Tuesday suspended trips to Cebu after the strong quake. Coast Guard commandant Rear Admiral Rodolfo Isorena also placed personnel in Cebu and Bohol on high alert.
In a radio interview, Transportation Secretary Joseph Emilio Abaya said Mactan International Airport in Lapu-Lapu City was cleared for operations following an inspection.
Abaya also said Tagbilaran Airport in Bohol sustained some damages. The ceiling of the airport terminal collapsed, but said it can operate after a brief cleanup. However, he said Tagbilaran Port may have to undergo further inspection.
Classes in the cities of Cebu and Dumaguete in Central Visayas will be suspended Wednesday to allow an inspection of the schools there, the Philippine Information Agency reported.
PIA7/NEGOR: The Deped division dumaguete announces the suspension of classes tomorrow to check all school buildings due to the earthquake. — PIA Central Visayas (@PIACentralViz)
The Department of Education's office in Dumaguete City supervises 12 public elementary schools and two public secondary schools.
State-run Philippine Information Agency said Cebu City Mayor Michael Rama said the suspension applied to all public and private schools.
Cebu City Mayor Mike declared all public and private schools no classed tomorrow.
SunStar Philippines: 7.2-magnitude quake hits Bohol, Cebu; 20 killed
Stay safe, FRiend.
Thank you, Cindy. Joining you in prayers for all affected by this earthquake.
Metric is essentially a foreign language to those born and raised (and educated) in America. When I listen to people on videos and TV programs talking about anything having to do with units of measure, and they start describing things in terms of metric, I begin mentally tuning out. They may as well be speaking Chinese to me.
Thank you, Caww. It’s terrible how fast buildings come down in a big earthquake.
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