Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Troops' Next Paycheck Disappears if U.S. Defaults
Military.Com ^ | Oct 15, 2013 | Richard Sisk

Posted on 10/15/2013 5:30:04 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-102 next last
To: Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
It won't matter if we default or not. The military WILL BE PAID!

With what?

51 posted on 10/15/2013 6:29:28 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

If they fail to make the payments then Congress should issue an arrest warrant for Jack Lew —


52 posted on 10/15/2013 6:30:42 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

and not one media outlet has asked who ordered those barry cades up again


53 posted on 10/15/2013 6:33:24 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: manc

Photos from last week:

http://www.nationalreview.com/slideshows/361116?slide=14


54 posted on 10/15/2013 6:36:14 AM PDT by KeyLargo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple

Sorry, but God is not the only someone. All I can think of is the joke with the punchline, “I sent two boats and a helicopter!” or the one that ends “Meet me halfway - buy a ticket!”

If man does not act in the name of God, man will act in the name of Satan.

(Disclaimer: God’s plan ultimately results in the BEST possible outcome, but it does not become so with a completely passive mankind. Nor does the best final outcome IN THE END mean there is not some evil that must be overcome along the way. My two cents.)


55 posted on 10/15/2013 6:39:08 AM PDT by bolobaby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: manc

56 posted on 10/15/2013 6:39:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

57 posted on 10/15/2013 6:40:00 AM PDT by KeyLargo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo
WAYYYYY back in 69 (I think) when I was finished with my training in Pensacola, I went to pick up my last check before I left for home. I needed it because I had already used my return plane ticket on an unauthorized trip home to get my roommate’s car.

The paymaster said “sorry, because of no budget in Washington, we can't pay you now. We'll mail it to you as soon as Congress approves it. At least you have your plane tickets.” LOL, no we didn't. I have a photo of my buddy Phil at the Western Union office getting money wired from home so we could buy gas & food for the trip home to NY from Florida.

58 posted on 10/15/2013 6:40:09 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bolobaby

Ever seen the movie from the 60’s called “Seven Days in May”?


59 posted on 10/15/2013 6:40:43 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

liars liars liars...senate has a bill before from the budget responsible house which authorizes the pay for military...dummie, commie, POS muslim liars!!!!!!!!!


60 posted on 10/15/2013 6:41:52 AM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: john316

No, I haven’t. Maybe I’ll order it from Netflix at some point, but only if there is a happy ending.


61 posted on 10/15/2013 6:42:19 AM PDT by bolobaby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

The US military is one of the few government function enumerated in the US Constitution.

So Obama is not going to them, but still give EBT cards to spongers and illegal aliens


62 posted on 10/15/2013 6:42:45 AM PDT by rdcbn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

The US military is one of the few government function enumerated in the US Constitution.

So Obama is not going to them, but still give EBT cards to spongers and illegal aliens


63 posted on 10/15/2013 6:42:46 AM PDT by rdcbn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PATRIOT1876

my son just joined the army.
ebt still working though.


64 posted on 10/15/2013 6:44:16 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo
the check after that could come in the form of an IOU if the nation defaults on its debt obligations...

The irony of this ridiculous statement is that a so-called "default" would make it MORE LIKELY to make paychecks to troops.

Constitutionally, 0' has to pay interest/principle FIRST, and then have a choice as to where to apply the 90% remaining tax receipts - apportioned to this entity, cut to that entity.

However, if he prefers to violate the constitution and NOT pay principle and/or interest first, there would be MORE tax receipts then to allocate to paying troops.

65 posted on 10/15/2013 6:44:43 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bolobaby
last time I checked it wasn't available on Netflix. The plot is basicaly a military coup of liberal gubment.
66 posted on 10/15/2013 6:44:46 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: john316

Does it have a happy ending?

(It is available for DVD delivery.)


67 posted on 10/15/2013 6:45:44 AM PDT by bolobaby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

There is an easy $787 Billion that would bring the deficit to at least Bush levels. The stimuli (sic) package passed in 2009 was supposed to be a one-time boost to the economy (and, to union thugs, but I digress...). Reed (sickO) conspired to not have a budget since then to lock this one-time spending into the continuing resolution budget process (ie, sham budget).


68 posted on 10/15/2013 6:51:59 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

Obama is attempting to hold our military hostage.


69 posted on 10/15/2013 6:52:56 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg
With what?


The money they take out of our paychecks every week would be a good start. We still pay income taxes in this country despite the shutdown. And not all of our income goes to servicing the debt. It's all a matter of priorities, the government doesn't borrow every penny. The only reason the military won't get paid is if the pResident decides they aren't a high enough priority compared to his cronies. It's time DC learned to pay the bills without another credit card from the Bank of Chi-com.

The sky was supposed to fall during the sequester, an some cuts to the military were maid. Yet the administration still managed to fund more boondoggle projects than anyone can count.

70 posted on 10/15/2013 6:57:23 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: bolobaby

Does it have a happy ending?

No, but does provide a good blueprint......


71 posted on 10/15/2013 7:02:28 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: RedMDer

Correct.

This was posted on the EU Times yesterday. Not taken as fact, but there are real questions about why Obozo removed 7 top military officers recently.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=muxdLFKb4M8


72 posted on 10/15/2013 7:07:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

“...You and your platoon will attack said hill and take it.”

“I’m sorry, Major, but that operation involves considerable risk. You haven’t sufficient collateral.”

“I’m aware of that,” said the Major. “Nevertheless, there’s the hill and you’re the one who are going to take it.”

“I’m sorry, Major. No collateral, no hill.”

So we didn’t take the hill and...we lost the war. I’m sure that story has considerable significance, but...I’ve forgotten what it is.... —The Best Years Of Our Lives


73 posted on 10/15/2013 7:08:28 AM PDT by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RedMDer

Here is the search link about that video

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7iDFRF1SEk4Alq9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTBzODBkdWxkBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTIEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZAM-/SIG=120dl1pfr/EXP=1381872965/**http%3a//www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=muxdLFKb4M8


74 posted on 10/15/2013 7:09:16 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: G Larry
Barack want to destroy America. At this moment the House and Senate aren’t dumb enough to let him......just yet.....

3-4 missed checks and he'll declare martial law, blame it on the GOP and tell the troops to take out the House if they want a paycheck.

75 posted on 10/15/2013 7:20:31 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

Excuse me, I didn’t take new math or any of the other “new” approaches to education when I was in school.

How can we default if our daily/monthly income from taxes is more than our current daily/monthly expenditures?

I thought you could default if it was the other way around.

But then I am not a politician who needs a crises to raise money to continue to live inside the beltway.

BTW, if we have enough money to continue to make welfare payments shouldn’t we also have enough money to continue to pay our military, active duty, reserve, and retired?


76 posted on 10/15/2013 7:21:48 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

Has anyone seen the Feds talking about missing welfare checks?

Pay for Obama’s and Congressional royalty’s Secret Service details?


77 posted on 10/15/2013 7:22:06 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

will Congressional and presidential paychecks also “disappear”?

If not why not?

barky told us any times he has extra money


78 posted on 10/15/2013 7:28:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

I got paid today. They withheld over $200 in federal income taxes, every payday, twice a month. Same for everyone in my office, many thousands in my city, millions all over the country. For the troops to not be paid would be only due to failures by the CIC, IMHO. It is not like they run out of money and have no more coming in. This is just a disgusting ploy to try to get the low-information troops-sympathizers to go into panic mode.


79 posted on 10/15/2013 7:29:23 AM PDT by NEMDF
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg
If we had money to pay all our bills then the government wouldn't be running a deficit.

The federal gubmint has been running under continuing resolutions since Obumba was immaculated, instead of actual budgets. Whatever was budgeted prior to his immaculation continues on forever, including the multiple stimuli that were passed at the end of the Bush administration and at the beginning of the Obumba regime. That’s over a billion dollars of Obumba stash just floating around to be used as he feels.

Ya know, if there was an actual budget with actual debate and actual accounting, it may actually be possible to pay everyone, keep everything open, and not have to borrow. Hey, Obumba, why don’t you try that, instead of threatening everyone with annihilation?

80 posted on 10/15/2013 7:31:25 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Conservative_Rob

Oops, I meant to say “over a trillion dollars”


81 posted on 10/15/2013 7:34:16 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

Check out the comments. Most are believing it. Freep the comments?


82 posted on 10/15/2013 7:35:02 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo
BUT you can bet the Spite House will make sure the EBT cards are filled first, even before he pays the debt on the contracted US debt obligations. That's what this buffoon is all about - TRANSFORMING AMERICA. Remember this and never forget it.....Obama civilian national security force
83 posted on 10/15/2013 7:37:51 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bgill

” and tell the troops to take out the House “

Why do you pretend such nonsense?

He lacks the courage to act so precipitacley, knowing the “pitchforks” would come out.

He prefers the incremental, executive action approach, which only has folks yelling at their TV, but not sufficiently motivated to get up off of the couch.


84 posted on 10/15/2013 7:41:05 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: lodi90

Leadership in many Veteran organizations is Democrat, they try to convince members (with some success actually) that the dims will do more for Veterans in the way of benefits than the stingy Republicans will. Democrats have never been a friend to the military or Veterans, but it is just like the black and female dim voting blocks- many fall for it.

I believe that is why there was flack after the fact about Palin and others attending the Veteran’s march on Sunday. I was watching and the crowd of Veterans gave a very loud cheer when Sarah Palin arrived. Later it was said that she was not wanted there by the Veterans? Maybe some of the so called leadership- but the Vets themselves obviously were happy to see her and others there supporting them. BS, it is all BS so deep we need hip waders.


85 posted on 10/15/2013 7:43:42 AM PDT by Tammy8
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Conservative_Rob
The federal gubmint has been running under continuing resolutions since Obumba was immaculated, instead of actual budgets.

That is entirely correct - there are 12 (I think used to be 13) Appropriation bills that originate in the House and go on to the Senate to DIE. The clown admin ignores the Constitution AND the Rule of Law on a daily basis and no one does a damn thing about it. Where is the oversight from the First Article? Unless Congress gets a deal and kicks the can down the road until after full implementation of Obamacare on 1-1-2014, then clown is going to just continue borrowing and ignore the US Constitution yet again and perpetrate a CONSITUTIONAL CRISIS. But don't look for leadership in the US House to do anything about it other than "Hold some Hearings".
86 posted on 10/15/2013 7:47:14 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

Just watched Navy Seal Ben Smith on with Bill Hemmer. I wanted to cry. Looking at his good and honest face made me sad and angry at this evil and corrupt Obama and they way they are treating good Americans.

People have about had it with the Obama and democrats AKA communists, running roughshod over decent people and looting them.


87 posted on 10/15/2013 7:48:10 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

Horse Shiite.

We take in plenty of money to pay every bill and personnel....and...and...and!!! Even continue paying outside contractors to show up en masse and force, to look big, mean and scary while closing our national monuments and parks.


88 posted on 10/15/2013 7:51:29 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Idaho_Cowboy
It's all a matter of priorities, the government doesn't borrow every penny. The only reason the military won't get paid is if the pResident decides they aren't a high enough priority compared to his cronies.

It's not in his hands. By law non-discretionary spending has to be paid. Defense is considered discretionary spending. For Defense to be funded before Social Security checks, Congress would have to pass legislation to do it.

89 posted on 10/15/2013 7:53:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: SampleMan

We saw the chaotic results of an EBT “crisis” this past weekend in rural Lousianna. Picture that same scenario in major cities throughout the US. The urban folks have the government by the short hairs and they know it.


90 posted on 10/15/2013 7:55:22 AM PDT by rhubarbk (It's official, I'm suffering from Obama fatigue!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: MadIsh32

technically we could be. since we are not spending on everything, but I don’t know.

Can you imagine in the Pre-Rush and Pre-Conservative talk show days how this would be playing in America? THE ONLY thing we would be hearing is how Evil Republicans are destroying the country.

THE MANTRA NEEDS TO BE “THERE IS NO DEFAULT UNLESS OBAMA DOES IT ON PURPOSE”~!~

Rush is right that the liberals are all marching in lockstep with their talking points. A lesson we have yet to learn.


91 posted on 10/15/2013 8:16:19 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

If Lew, should even try to do this, he should be dragged out of office and DC after being tarred and feathered.

Lew, you vile POS, stop the paychecks for members of congress, the faux president and VP, Obozo’s cabinet and his horde of Chicago thugs in the outhouse.

There is no need to punish our military.

Below is the reality of failing to raise the Debt Limit.

The reality of a real debt limit:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3076090/posts?page=1

The Debt Ceiling is the Law of the Land
redstate.com ^ | 10/6/13 | Daniel Horowitz
Posted on Monday, October 07, 2013 6:07:28 PM by cotton1706

Over the past few weeks, Democrats have indicated that they have no intention of negotiating over Obamacare, opting instead to shut down the government. They are justifying their obstinacy by asserting that Obamacare is the law of the land. Well, if that is the game they want to play, we should return the favor with the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling, pursuant to the Second Liberty Bond Act of 1917, is the law of the land. And it has been so for far longer than Obamacare.

Throughout this debate over funding Obamacare in the budget bill, House GOP leaders have stressed how the debt ceiling was the more appropriate means of fighting Obamacare. After all, it was “the next fight.” But as if on cue, some Republicans are already using the same Democrat talking points about the risk of default.

We are going to hear this erroneous talking point propagated by both parties over the next few weeks, so let’s put the myth to rest. The only way we default on the debt is if we fail to pay the interest on the public debt. According to the updated budget projection from the CBO, interest on the debt will be roughly $237 billion for 2014. Thanks to the short-term revenue benefits of the fiscal cliff and Obamacare tax hikes, the federal government is expected to rake in a record $3.042 trillion from the private economy this year.

Let’s engage in a simple math exercise. $3.042 trillion – $237 billion = $2.805 trillion. As long as the Treasury pays the first $237 billion in revenue to the shareholders of our debt, there will be no default, and we will have $2.805 trillion left to spend. Again, default is taken off the table. Discussion over.

What do you do with the remaining funds? You start funding core functions of government and those programs that people are already dependent on.

Social Security (retirement and disability) – $848 billion
Medicare – $505 billion
Medicaid – $298 billion
Defense – $582 billion
Veterans – $83 billion

Those expenditures account for roughly $2.3 trillion. The remaining half trillion can be prioritized as needed for other functions related to homeland security, national parks, or any other limited function.

Hence, the debt ceiling is a built-in balanced budget mechanism. If Democrats want to fund other functions of government, they need to commit to a balanced budget. If they want to fund the HHS and the IRS, they need to get rid of Obamacare. If they want to fund the EPA, they need to get rid of the war on coal.

The power of the purse manifest in the House of Representatives, in conjunction with the debt ceiling law, reflects democracy at work, especially with divided government. It’s time we stop peddling the myth of default, and start using our leverage to restore constitutional government and bring relief to those who are losing jobs and suffering from the high cost of living engendered by the harmful activities of the unconstitutional aspects of government.


92 posted on 10/15/2013 8:17:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg
It's not in his hands. By law non-discretionary spending has to be paid. Defense is considered discretionary spending. For Defense to be funded before Social Security checks, Congress would have to pass legislation to do it.

The LAST thing this clown care about is "THE LAW". Obama: Social Security Checks Will Stop When Debt Ceiling Is Reached

Spite House says "In a government shutdown, Social Security checks still go out on time," Obama said. "In an economic shutdown, if we don't raise the debt ceiling, they don't go out on time."

You can bet the EBT cards get filled BEFORE SS checks go out.
93 posted on 10/15/2013 8:19:50 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: goodwithagun

I am sure you heard about the EBT fiasco at a Walmart store in Louisiana, where the EBT users emptied all the shelves out because the system was down or something like that. One woman had only 48cents on the card but spend (stole) over $700 of merchandise. You can bet she voted for that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave


94 posted on 10/15/2013 9:14:57 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

So, do the staffers and members of congress get a check haircut too?


95 posted on 10/15/2013 9:16:51 AM PDT by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

Big question is... is Congress and staff getting a check? How will the hookers survive?


96 posted on 10/15/2013 10:26:02 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo

- “CORRUPT BASTARDS” - Sarah Palin


97 posted on 10/15/2013 10:32:38 AM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- ----- shall not infringe upon my smoking MacBook PRO ----- ----- ----- -----)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K

My point is more so this

If the bills for the taxpayer are 100B, and the taxes paid by the citizens are 90B, there is a 10B shortfall, which from my understanding cannot be filled by borrowing since the debt limit would be reached.

Therefore the tax payer would be unable to fulfill his obligations, correct?


98 posted on 10/15/2013 10:38:57 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: bolobaby

Elect as many of us as you can and we WILL.

http://pambarlow.net/
https://www.facebook.com/DrPamBarlow4Congress
https://twitter.com/DrPamBarlow


99 posted on 10/15/2013 11:59:32 AM PDT by LTC.Ret (You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: BulletBobCo
People need to relax. The bankers and their trillions of dollars worth of power will not allow the democrats to have their chicanery past Thursday. History has shown us what happens when politicians do things that cause the power bankers to get upset.

President Andrew Jackson was nearly shot dead in the streets by would-be assassins after making clear how much he despised central banking power. President Kennedy didn't like the idea of an almighty Federal Reserve Bank, either.

100 posted on 10/15/2013 12:12:27 PM PDT by Prole
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-102 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson