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House GOP intent on forcing Congress, White House into Obamacare
Washington Examiner ^ | October 15, 2013 | SUSAN CRABTREE

Posted on 10/15/2013 12:24:08 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

If House Republicans get their way in budget talks, White House spokesman Jay Carney may be forced to make good on his pledge to sign up for Obamacare if his private insurance plan is dropped.

House GOP leaders have pressed during the government shutdown fight to significantly delay or defund the president's signature healthcare reform laws. But with those efforts failing to take hold, Republicans on Tuesday shifted fears and are seeking to extract a different health care concession: Forcing members of Congress, President Obama and top White House officials to enroll in the law's insurance exchanges without subsidies.

Carney is already on the record saying he would enroll if he loses his current employer-provided health care.

In late September, in anticipation of the Oct. 1 rollout of the law's online insurance exchanges, Fox News' Ed Henry asked Carney whether he would sign up for Obamacare.

“Absolutely,” said Carney. “If I did not have employer-provided health insurance ... then I would absolutely enroll.” He added that the Obamacare option would be more affordable than other plans in the private market.

House GOP leaders on Tuesday floated a broad proposal to reopen the federal government and raise the nation's debt limit. The plan also delays a tax on medical devices and would eliminate insurance subsidies for members of Congress. The plan was presented to rank-and-file members of the GOP caucus behind closed doors and leaders were revising the proposal ahead of a possible vote.

Regardless of the bill's final form, House Republicans insist they will make it a priority to ensure that Washington lives by the laws it passes. They say any bill they move must eliminate insurance subsidies for members of Congress, President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and White House political appointees if they purchase health insurance under Obamacare's exchanges.

Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., said Tuesday that any budget solution must include what he called “our position on fairness” -- “no special treatment under the law.”

Congress has balked at having to participate in Obamacare after a provision from Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, required 11,000 lawmakers and staff to lose the generous coverage they now have as part of the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program. Instead, they would get the lower-quality plan that offers fewer choices, known as “Medicaid Plus” in the exchanges.

Members and their better-paid aides also wouldn't qualify for Obamacare subsidies under the law, which means they could be exposed to thousands of dollars a year in out-of-pocket insurance costs.

After pressure from both parties, Obama ordered an exemption allowing congressional offices to continue to receive subsidies for insurance.

House Republicans are now pushing to put those subsidies on the cutting block in any deal to end the shutdown and avoid a default.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: countryclass; obamacare; obamacaves; politicalclass; shutdown

1 posted on 10/15/2013 12:24:08 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

OK, let me offer a further compromise as a starter. The Office of the President is special, so let’s just force Congress (both houses) onto Obamacare, without subsidies. After all, they write the laws and should be subject to them.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 12:26:52 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

if it’s soooo F’n good for the serfs, shouldn’t it be just as good as the elites?????

Yes, John Edwards, There are 2 America’s......now.


3 posted on 10/15/2013 12:26:55 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If they’ll throw in the union Neanderthals too, I’m all for it.


4 posted on 10/15/2013 12:26:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Constitution is obsolete only if you see Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto as a replacement.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
House Republicans are now pushing to put those subsidies on the cutting block in any deal to end the shutdown and avoid a default.

I would love for them to up the ante and propose shutting down the Congressional Health Plan entirely and throw the whole lot onto the exchanges. After all, it's good enough for the rest of America...

5 posted on 10/15/2013 12:27:45 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The House GOP leaked this plan a day before the shutdown and long before that I recommended they do this many times here.

The Senate GOP willing to cave (or sit by and watch it happen) while they personally are shielded from the law is a crime.

The shutdown did not stop Obamacare


6 posted on 10/15/2013 12:28:57 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Better than that send an amendment that includes everyone period. No exceptions for anyone or anything. If I have to have this POS thrown at me I want every one to have it.


7 posted on 10/15/2013 12:29:25 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The difference is that they may actually be able to afford the premiums and deductibles being offered, unlike a good portion of the little people.


8 posted on 10/15/2013 12:30:46 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That should be MANDATORY

Wasn’t there a law passed a few years back that said Congress could no longer exempt itself from the laws they passed?


9 posted on 10/15/2013 12:31:02 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Finally some wisdom!!!

Remove all the exemptions from Obamacare and the whole thing will collapse.


10 posted on 10/15/2013 12:31:04 PM PDT by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: Farnsworth

speaking of John Edwards, is he in jail yet?


11 posted on 10/15/2013 12:31:46 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

who knows, hanging out with Carlos Danger???


12 posted on 10/15/2013 12:33:18 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This administration is good at spreading pain, so yes.
The Prez and Nanzi especially should be forced into it.

13 posted on 10/15/2013 12:34:36 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Make Bammy put back all his waivers and exemptions and make sure they go in effect January 1.

You’ll see a tidal wave GOP win after 11 months of original recipe Bammycare. Delaying it a year means nobody get to feel the pain prior to the election.

It’s time America gets the goobermint they voted for. Instead , the morons in the GOP will save Democrats from themselves.

“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.”-Abraham Lincoln


14 posted on 10/15/2013 12:36:32 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Equal application of the law for all is something that should not have to be fought for. That alone is a sad commentary on 0bama's new America.

This is a win/win move for the GOP because even the LIV's want Congress to have their most personal medical records leaked and scattered throughout the media and social media just like everyone else under 0bamacare.

15 posted on 10/15/2013 12:38:59 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Republicans on Tuesday shifted fears and are seeking to extract a different health care concession”

Typo or a Freudian slip by the author? The only ones I have heard fear mongering are obamaramadingdong,demonrats and rinos.


16 posted on 10/15/2013 12:41:58 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Republicans insist they will make it a priority to ensure that Washington lives by the laws it passes. They say any bill they move must eliminate insurance subsidies for members of Congress, President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and White House political appointees

And don't forget the Supreme Court, especially for that idiot John Roberts.

17 posted on 10/15/2013 12:43:18 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: BitWielder1

They’ll just change it around after the fact...they always do...they will NOT take a hit like the rest of Americans...never!


18 posted on 10/15/2013 12:43:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It doesn't matter how this silliness plays out.

Does anybody really think they'll see Obama reading Highlights in a packed ObamaCare waiting room in downtown DC anytime soon.

Does anybody believe Harry Reid is going to be told that he's too old for a liver transplant?

Is Nancy Pelosi going to be denied a breast exam because she had one last year?

The political class will never ever be subject to the daily miseries they force upon us.

19 posted on 10/15/2013 12:45:05 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

True enough but their staffs won’t go unscathed - they will have to walk the healthcare plank with the rest of the middle class.


20 posted on 10/15/2013 12:47:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good. They should never have been excluded in the first place as it is the LAW OF THE LAND.


21 posted on 10/15/2013 12:50:16 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HarleyD

Did they exempt themselves ? If members of Congress are on a federal benefits plan that meets the standards of Obamacare they shouldn’t have to give it up just like no other employer has been forced to forego standard employer based coverage.


22 posted on 10/15/2013 12:51:28 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: Pearls Before Swine

No - a bill is not law unless the President signs it into law. So there is no rationale to exclude the President.


23 posted on 10/15/2013 12:56:44 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; TurboZamboni
Boehner needs to send 0SocialismCare back to 0 exactly as it was passed...NO EXEMPTIONS, AT ALL! This is what a caller on Rush said, today...she's probably a FReeper ;)

Rush agreed and said....Send that idea to Boehner.

24 posted on 10/15/2013 1:00:43 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: plain talk

I was offering a compromise.


25 posted on 10/15/2013 1:09:08 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Obama couldn’t care less if he and Congress are forced by law into Obamacare. He will simply start issuing waivers again, and no one would be able to do anything about it.


26 posted on 10/15/2013 1:09:32 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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If they want Obamacare, they should want all of it for everyone. It would be great to hear Obama/Reid explain why it is good for us but not for them.


27 posted on 10/15/2013 1:11:20 PM PDT by csivils
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To: Enterprise

No waivers should be part of the compromise.


28 posted on 10/15/2013 1:11:52 PM PDT by csivils
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If they are forced into it, maybe they will finally READ the **** law.


29 posted on 10/15/2013 1:16:20 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; All

they also write their raises - and will just give themselves a new raise to cover the cost - but they will look like the heroes of compromise.

Is everyone brain dead?


30 posted on 10/15/2013 1:17:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

his staff and cabinet aren’t special. let sebelius go ahead and the rest of them, all their staffers, sign up for obamadeathcare.


31 posted on 10/15/2013 1:19:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jane Long

If Boner needs the idea planted in his head, he’s even more worthless than I thought.


32 posted on 10/15/2013 1:20:35 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

These are pretty meaningless concessions as far as the general public is concerned. What health plans Congress has doesn’t make any difference in how Obamacare will affect our lives. A delay of the medical device tax is not good enough. A bad tax is a bad tax today or tomorrow.

I thought they were supposed to be asking for proper income verification before the moochers can get subsidies? That is something that is helpful to the entire country. The primary, overwhelming problem with Obamacare is that it hands out more free taxpayer cash to moochers. No compromise is worth squat unless it reduces or eliminates the mooch factor.

Reducing the tax burden of Obamacare while doing nothing to reduce its spending is the same crap the GOP has been doing for a decade. They cut taxes, the Dems increase spending, and we go deeper into debt. Cutting every tax associated with the law while not decreasing its spending will just add to the debt and force us to pay the bills down the road with interest added. Cutting taxes without decreasing might be fine if it’s part of a growth package, but Obamacare is not a growth package. It can only decrease economic growth since it encourages more moochers to not work.


33 posted on 10/15/2013 1:29:25 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: TurboZamboni

Evidently, he (Boner) needs ideas planted in his head. Time will tell.


34 posted on 10/15/2013 2:14:52 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: csivils

We have a lawless President. The law could specifically state that Obama can grant no waivers. Once passed by the House and the Senate and signed by the President, Obama would then commence to grant waivers. No one would stop him.


35 posted on 10/15/2013 3:27:04 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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