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Healthplanfinder enrollment nearly triples in the second week (WA - 25k + 37k not yet paid)
The Seattle Times ^ | 10/15/2013 | Amy Snow Landa

Posted on 10/15/2013 12:50:12 PM PDT by steve86

About 25,000 Washington residents have enrolled in health plans through the state’s online insurance exchange marketplace during its first two weeks.

That figure is nearly triple the 9,500 residents who completed their enrollment during the first week that the exchange, called Washington Healthplanfinder, was open for enrollment.

An additional 37,000 people have completed applications to enroll in coverage but have not yet submitted their first payment, which is not due until December.

The Washington Health Benefit Exchange, which operates Healthplanfinder, released its latest enrollment figures Monday afternoon.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: obamacare
Outlier state with state exchange successfully enrolling applicants.

The "additional 37,000" have not yet paid their first month's premium but would not be expected to do so until December.

Around 13,000 of the 25,000 are new Expanded Medicaid enrollments.

1 posted on 10/15/2013 12:50:12 PM PDT by steve86
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To: steve86

I think the final blow will be when a hacker steals the identities and bank account numbers of all the enrollees. These items are sold by the Russian Mafia in an on-line auction similar to eBay. It’s very organized and very big. Those people will live in lost bank account and identity Hell. But Obamacare will be finished.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 12:55:58 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: steve86
No payment...no contract

There must be consideration.

3 posted on 10/15/2013 12:57:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: steve86
Outlier state with state exchange successfully enrolling applicants.

Considering the nature of the rabid statists that infect our governments at all levels, I will not trust any numbers until they are independently verified by an outside, non-liberal entity.

They seek absolute control by any means, so lying is very easy for them.

4 posted on 10/15/2013 12:57:26 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Gen.Blather

that’s been my thoughts all along...hacker+bank accounts

or

hacker getting into the electronic medical records of celebs and politicians and publishing them all over the internet would do the trick

I’m almost positive both will happen at some point


5 posted on 10/15/2013 1:00:36 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: Gen.Blather

Could happen, certainly isn’t impossible, but remember this is a state exchange in a state where IT has a reputation for being reasonably competent.


6 posted on 10/15/2013 1:02:34 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Sacajaweau
No payment...no contract
There must be consideration.

True, but all kinds of things in the economy are reported prospectively (especially in the housing sector) before money actually changes hands.

I personally expect most of the 37,000 will pay unless O'care totally falls apart before then.

7 posted on 10/15/2013 1:04:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86
[Around 13,000 of the 25,000 are new Expanded Medicaid enrollments.]

These 13,000 new Medicaid patients will drain more money from the state ObamaCare program than the 12,000 paying exchange clients can possibly offset. Then when you subtract the subsidies the system is deeply in deficit. But then Obama can simply print money to pay the difference and Nancy Pelosi will call it a “stimulus.”

8 posted on 10/15/2013 1:06:22 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: sand88

I have been in personal communication with the Corporate Communications Director of the one of insurance companies involved in the exchange and he doesn’t seem to doubt the numbers (last week’s numbers).


9 posted on 10/15/2013 1:06:59 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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Just for a little perspective, the total of 62,000 Washingtonians is a little less the total number who voted for somebody other than BO or Romney in last year’s presidential election.


10 posted on 10/15/2013 1:08:55 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I agree with what you’re saying. In terms of actual funding mechanics the Medicaid patients aren’t a hit to the state budget for a couple of years or so. Starting then the state has to cover a progressively larger amount of the cost.


11 posted on 10/15/2013 1:11:15 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: thestob

“hacker getting into the electronic medical records of celebs and politicians and publishing them all over the internet would do the trick”

There won’t be any celebrities or politicians in Obamacare. Socialist nations have a multitier medical system. Politicians and privileged people are in the upper tier. Obamacare is definitely the bottom rung.


12 posted on 10/15/2013 1:14:47 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Sacajaweau

They have agreed to make payment. So, that qualifies as consideration. If/when they do not make the payment, then they are in breach of the contract.


13 posted on 10/15/2013 1:15:32 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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They had best not count their chickens (payments) before they’re hatched (payments are received and clear the bank).


14 posted on 10/15/2013 1:15:59 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Gen.Blather

no, but all medical records are electronic now .....and someone will get into them and spread that info everywhere


15 posted on 10/15/2013 1:19:25 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: steve86

"Sounds like you need to beef up the numbers on your
healthcare website. I will send you one of my assistants.
She got all of my Twitter followers for me."

16 posted on 10/15/2013 1:19:53 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Sacajaweau
No payment...no contract

There must be consideration.

Nonsense. A promise to pay is good consideration for a contract.

17 posted on 10/15/2013 1:26:29 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: steve86
Around 13,000 of the 25,000 are new Expanded Medicaid enrollments...a large percentage of those not covered by insurance originally - the rationalization for the need for the government to take over healthcare - were already eligible for Medicaid, and hadn't bothered to sign up - apparently the threat of a tax for not doing so is finally moving some to do what was right long ago.....
18 posted on 10/15/2013 1:26:45 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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[In terms of actual funding mechanics the Medicaid patients aren’t a hit to the state budget for a couple of years or so.]

Right. But if the Washington numbers are extrapolated to a national level you have a deficit. Medicaid is now a component of ObamaCare for all practical purposes. Medicare has become a funding mechanism for ObamaCare to the tune of $760 billion over 10 years.

19 posted on 10/15/2013 1:31:42 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: steve86

So will even the liberals agree now that things are better run at the state level than by the feds?


20 posted on 10/15/2013 1:38:12 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
were already eligible for Medicaid, and hadn't bothered to sign up

That isn't many in Washington State. The ones previously eligible were parents or parent with kids and nearly all of those were already signed up. Clinics, schools, DSHS make sure of that.

apparently the threat of a tax for not doing so is finally moving some to do what was right long ago

Very few of those in the Medicaid-eligible group would be subject to any penalty due to the 8.5% rule (or 8, 9...depending where you read).

21 posted on 10/15/2013 1:47:05 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: JediJones

Many people here, of course, don’t want state government involved in health care either but my own take is that it can be a reasonable thing.


22 posted on 10/15/2013 3:51:19 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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