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Stop at Olympic National Park, get $125 ticket
The News Tribune (Tacoma WA) ^ | 10/15/2013

Posted on 10/15/2013 3:44:35 PM PDT by llevrok

PORT ANGELES, WASH. — People who pulled into a ranger station at Olympic National Park over the weekend were given $125 tickets for "violation of closure" — entering the park during the government shutdown.

Three of the cars were a group of international students from Peninsula College led by host Kelly Sanders, a teacher from Port Angeles, the Peninsula Daily News reported Tuesday (http://bit.ly/1bU12WZ ).

They pulled off Highway 101 at Lake Crescent, got out and posed for a picture behind the Storm King Ranger Station when Ranger Jennifer Jackson pulled up and wrote all three drivers tickets. Each carries the $125 fine.

The students from Japan, Indonesia, Hong Kong and China were puzzled, Sanders said.

"I didn't know how to explain it to them because I can't really understand why all this happened myself," Sanders said Monday.

"I know they were surprised that we would get a ticket for trying to go for a hike."

The driveway into the Storm King lot was partially blocked by orange road cones and a sandwich board with a sign stuck to it with duct tape reading, "Because of the federal government shutdown, this National Park Service facility is closed," Sanders said.

"It was a really wide opening —wide enough I could get my car through easily," said Leanne Potts of Sequim, who also received a $125 citation from Jackson.

Potts set out that morning for a hike up the Mount Storm King Trail with her friend, Laura Clemons.

"If I knew I was going to get a ticket, I probably wouldn't have gone in there," she said.

Both Potts and Sanders were confused by the wording on the sign.

"When I think of facilities, I think of buildings or bathrooms or features or something," Potts said.

"I just assumed that it meant the bathrooms were closed, not that I would be breaking the law," Sanders said.

Ranger Jackson was sympathetic and said she wasn't being paid during the shutdown.

"She said she was just doing her job," Sanders said of Jackson. "I understand that she thought that was her job. It just seemed a little excessive."

"She did say, 'Feel free to complain. We welcome your complaints,'" Potts said.


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More Sturmtruppen activity by the National Park Service,
1 posted on 10/15/2013 3:44:35 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok
"She said she was just doing her job," Sanders said of Jackson.

So were the Nazis and Chekists in their day.

2 posted on 10/15/2013 3:47:05 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Baynative

WA state ping


3 posted on 10/15/2013 3:47:12 PM PDT by llevrok (Democrats are LAW-LESS because the GOP is Ball-Less)
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To: llevrok

Its apparent which side the Park Rangers are on...


4 posted on 10/15/2013 3:48:57 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: llevrok

Bttt. Adding this story to my long list of Nat’l Park Service tactics.


5 posted on 10/15/2013 3:49:20 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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welcome to Amerika, exchange students. Now, your papers bitte !!! Mach Schnell!!


6 posted on 10/15/2013 3:49:32 PM PDT by llevrok (Democrats are LAW-LESS because the GOP is Ball-Less)
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To: llevrok

So who is paying these people to write tickets if the govt is shut down?


7 posted on 10/15/2013 3:51:28 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Under the Democrats; the Lincoln Memorial is closed; but the southern border is open)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

THIS LAND’S NOT YOUR LAND
Tune: “This Land Is Your Land”
As sung by King Obama

This land’s not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land’s not made for you to see

If you go driving an interstate highway
And see an orange cone, you’ll do it my way
You will obey me and not go forward
This land’s not made for you to see

This land’s not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land’s not made for you to see

You’ll want to travel and go to Mount Rushmore
But at Rapid City, you won’t go much more
Guards will surround you, their voices sounding:
This land’s not made for you to see

This land’s not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land’s not made for you to see

If you oppose me, I’ll make you suffer
Come near memorials, I’ll put up a buffer
I am Obama, I am your land lord
This land’s not made for you to see

This land’s not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land’s not made for you to see

If you go looking, you’ll see a sign there
And on the sign it says: “There’s No Trespassing”
And on the other side: “No Looking or Nothing!”
Both sides were made for you to see

This land’s not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land’s not made for you to see

At the Redwood Forest, in the land of the Canyons
By the Gulfstream Waters, you’ll see my minions
As they stand there guarding, you’ll stand there wond’ring:
Is this land safe for me to see?

This land’s not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land’s not made for you to see

No one can stop me, my mind is made up
As I go putting my Barrycades up
Nobody living can make me give your land back
This land’s not made for you to see

New voices:

But King Obama, this land is our land
So shut your piehole, you can go pound sand
From the bitter clingers to Barack Obama:
This land was founded to be free

This land ain’t your land, this land is our land
So shut your piehole, you can go pound sand
From the bitter clingers to Barack Obama:
This land was founded to be free

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3076078/posts


8 posted on 10/15/2013 3:52:05 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: llevrok

Rip it up and throw it in their faces.

Then get ready for the arrest.

F ‘em.


9 posted on 10/15/2013 3:54:13 PM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: llevrok

What no sign warning the drivers that you should turn around or the little bitch at the ranger station will give you a 125 dollar ticket? Outrageous...


10 posted on 10/15/2013 3:55:20 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: TurboZamboni

Now THAT is CLEVER! :)


11 posted on 10/15/2013 3:57:31 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Vermont Lt
Rip it up and throw it in their faces. Then get ready for the arrest.

Alas, THAT is actually a crime, whereas it is highly debatable if the national parks can actually close without violating federal law, or if national parks officials (or rangers) have the legal ability to deem you trespassing on public land for anything other than an actual emergency (forest fire, mudslide, active police investigation or public health hazard.)

So feel free to engage in debate, but don't litter.

12 posted on 10/15/2013 3:57:52 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: llevrok

Access is cut off but the NPS has got its personnel geared up for shakedown patrols.

Sounds like Obamacare.


13 posted on 10/15/2013 3:57:54 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: llevrok

Take away park rangers guns and I don’t think they’d have the guts.

An armed society is a polite society unless it’s the government that has the guns.


14 posted on 10/15/2013 3:59:22 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: hosepipe

It’s too bad one of the drivers didn’t beat the crap out of the Nazi rangerette.

Screw the National Park “Service.”


15 posted on 10/15/2013 4:00:59 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: TurboZamboni
I appreciate your lyrical adaptation. However, please note that the original Arlo Guthrie song is a socialist anthem.

socialistworker.org

16 posted on 10/15/2013 4:02:44 PM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: llevrok

I only have two words for these tree cops and I won’t repeat them here.


17 posted on 10/15/2013 4:04:11 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This administration decides which laws to enforce.


18 posted on 10/15/2013 4:04:56 PM PDT by nomobs
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To: HereInTheHeartland

They have to work without pay but can probably get unemployment compensation in the mean time, and then collect back pay later.

whoopie!


19 posted on 10/15/2013 4:05:40 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: llevrok

Rut-ro!..... that is in my neighborhood.


20 posted on 10/15/2013 4:08:21 PM PDT by Gator113 (Ted Cruz is settled law.)
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To: smokingfrog

I will now have lost any respect for these ranger types I may have had in the past.
They are behaving like thugs.

These are OUR parks and monuments. The govt DOESN’T OWN them; we do.
This really angers me. We need to channel our outrage and work against any Demorat candidate at the lowest local levels.


21 posted on 10/15/2013 4:10:23 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Under the Democrats; the Lincoln Memorial is closed; but the southern border is open)
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To: llevrok

Trees, squirrels and the view are now considered facilities. Just another ranger making things difficult for the taxpayer. Ranger Witch intentionally set the cones far enough apart for vehicles to enter and picked up a new ticket pad just for such as this. The more money a park generates, the more money they get the following year’s budget. If they can’t generate money from entry fees, they’ll generate money from tickets via We the People trespassing upon We the People’s lands.


22 posted on 10/15/2013 4:12:08 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: tpmintx

Did you mean Woodie Guthrie????

Arlo’s father did that song....


23 posted on 10/15/2013 4:14:08 PM PDT by JW1949
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To: Timber Rattler

Would rip this ticket up and throw it on the ground in front of this bitch.


24 posted on 10/15/2013 4:15:47 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: llevrok

The people of the government, by the government and for the government shall not prosper on his Earth.
- Barack Obama.


25 posted on 10/15/2013 4:16:10 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: elkfersupper
I only have two words for these tree cops and I won’t repeat them here.

could those two words be "Clear" and "Cut" ?

26 posted on 10/15/2013 4:16:11 PM PDT by llevrok (Democrats are LAW-LESS because the GOP is Ball-Less)
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To: llevrok

Ranger Jackson - Twerk.


27 posted on 10/15/2013 4:20:29 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: llevrok
The students from Japan, Indonesia, Hong Kong and China

Well there you go, they were here legally, What the hell were they thinking
coming here Legally! No wonder Obama fined them.

28 posted on 10/15/2013 4:21:14 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: llevrok
"I didn't know how to explain it to them because I can't really understand why all this happened myself," Sanders said Monday.

Say what I say: "We lost a war."

29 posted on 10/15/2013 4:21:39 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: llevrok

On another thread I mentioned I had some difficult issues with a NPS cop and noted so did others, long before the shutdown.

What I’d like to add, from my experience then is the NPS does not have a LEO chain of command like the FBI and other professional police agencies.

Park cops report to the park superintendent, who reports to the regional director. Couple this with the fact the NPS was overun with tree hugger type leftists beginning in the 90’s that are now in upper management positions, and just what else can be expected?

They are not professional cops, they are leftist goons gleefully following any order given that makes someone elses life miserable.


30 posted on 10/15/2013 4:21:55 PM PDT by redfreedom (Republicans = The faux conservative wing of the democrat party.)
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To: llevrok
""She said she was just doing her job,""

Oh shut up Ranger Jackson. Do something productive and find Yogi Bear and Boo Boo a picnic basket.

31 posted on 10/15/2013 4:23:21 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: llevrok

32 posted on 10/15/2013 4:26:19 PM PDT by traumer
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To: llevrok
could those two words be "Clear" and "Cut" ?

Nope.

33 posted on 10/15/2013 4:27:07 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: llevrok

I wonder what fine you’ll get if you light the ticket on fire and drop it in front of them.


34 posted on 10/15/2013 4:27:08 PM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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To: traumer

She was just FOLLOWING ORDERS !


35 posted on 10/15/2013 4:27:47 PM PDT by traumer
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To: kingu

If you rip up the ticket and throw it in a trash can you’ll get another ticket for “Unlawful Use of Government Trash Containers”.


36 posted on 10/15/2013 4:28:47 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: HereInTheHeartland
We need to channel our outrage and work against any Demorat candidate at the lowest local levels.

Look at your local city council to see if you can find any party affiliation attached to them.
Odds are that you can't because that's how the Libs infect our cities and counties.

37 posted on 10/15/2013 4:30:17 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: traumer

OMgosh, It’s PAT!


38 posted on 10/15/2013 4:31:30 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: llevrok

“Ranger Jackson was sympathetic and said she wasn’t being paid during the shutdown.”

If she’s not being paid, why is she there and what authority does she have? She’s just another unemployed smuck as far as I can see.


39 posted on 10/15/2013 4:32:22 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: kingu; Vermont Lt

Then fire up a Zippo lighter on it.


40 posted on 10/15/2013 4:32:55 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: llevrok

This ranger probably would not like the way I think would be the proper wayto complain. I think it would be proper to treat these rangers like armed robbers. Obamarobbers.


41 posted on 10/15/2013 4:32:57 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Up is down, wrong is right, 0bama care is cheap.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Excellent! Brought tears to my eyes that Woodie can't read and sing it.....because he's dead.

FMCDH(BITS)

42 posted on 10/15/2013 4:33:41 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: llevrok

Yah, the little brownshirts are just doing their jobs. for the diktator.


43 posted on 10/15/2013 4:40:15 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
An armed society is a polite society unless it’s the government that has ALL the guns.

just a small change...

FMCDH(BITS)

44 posted on 10/15/2013 4:41:33 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: MaxMax

Who is Pat ??


45 posted on 10/15/2013 4:44:08 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Gator113
that is in my neighborhood.

You havf relatives perhaps in Chimicum undt Pysht ja?

46 posted on 10/15/2013 4:44:34 PM PDT by llevrok (Democrats are LAW-LESS because the GOP is Ball-Less)
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To: Timber Rattler

She went home thinking she had done something great.

She could have issued a warning, or just told them to go away.


47 posted on 10/15/2013 4:45:12 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: redfreedom
Couple this with the fact the NPS was overun with tree hugger type leftists beginning in the 90’s that are now in upper management positions, and just what else can be expected?

I used to work for a major forest products company (hint: Starts with the letter W). It too had more than enough Birkenstoks troding the hallways of corporate to scare some of old time tin pants loggers.

48 posted on 10/15/2013 4:47:35 PM PDT by llevrok (Democrats are LAW-LESS because the GOP is Ball-Less)
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To: llevrok

“I was following orders”.

Rangers:
If thus becomes MO nationwide you will have lost our respect.,
There is nothing that mandates you must ticket, arrest or even notice anyone is there.


49 posted on 10/15/2013 4:50:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: tpmintx

That’s ok, this song is socialist too.


50 posted on 10/15/2013 4:51:07 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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