Skip to comments.BREAKING: House Deal Falls Apart As Conservatives Balk, White House Threatens Veto
Posted on 10/15/2013 5:14:58 PM PDT by JSDude1
----"Plan B" and fiscal cliff vote, redux. Having hammered out a deal to shoot back to the Senate tonight -- with most Republicans reportedly on board -- House GOP leadership has been forced to delay or cancel those votes after support among conservatives collapsed in the early evening hours. The rules committee meeting, which would have formally drawn up the bill and advanced it to the full house, has been postponed indefinitely. The reason is simple. They don't have the votes:
What happened? The counter-offer's broad outline, which I've been following all day, seemed to be on track. Then the medical device tax delay was stripped out, and the "full Vitter Amendment" (no special treatment under Obamacare for Congress, staffers, and White House officials) was inserted in -- both at the behest of the Tea Party faction. You read that right: The House's most ardent conservatives decided they were opposed to stalling or repealing the tax as part of this deal, for tactical reasons. I theoretically sympathize with those reasons. The delay would look like another favor to big business rather than the little guy (which works against the GOP's "fairness" messaging on the mandate tax), it would risk disengaging the medical device industry as a zealous repeal coalition partner, and it would take the issue off the table as a Democrat-dividing maneuver for future negotiations. All that said, since when are conservatives against getting rid of job-killing, innovation-impeding tax increases? A wrong-headed choice, in my estimation. But that's moot now anyway. In spite of those accommodations from leadership and a relatively unified spirit coming out of this morning's meeting, enough members apparently decided that the deal wasn't good enough to merit their support. It seems likely that late-breaking opposition from Heritage Action and FreedomWorks contributed to the whip-count...
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Dare the phoney Demoncrats! Call their bluff and nail then on failures. Failure to negotiate, failure to open the government, failure on spending, etc.
The way to replace the senate is to walk out, saying the republic is lost. It will give quick and substantial momentum to a states rights movement, which can save the constitution. We shouldn’t expect the people who shredded the constitution to restore it. DC will starve. We can start over.
You are so right if the Constitution still means anything, which is what I emailed to the Speaker a while ago.
There will be NO default on government debt backed by interest bearing instruments. There is more than enough tax revenue to cover those payments. The only way a default could happen on those debt payments is if the Treasury IGNORED/REFUSED to pay them. Now on obligations/promises made by the government not backed by any of those previously mentioned ‘instruments’ there can’t be any ‘default’ in the financial sense, only broken promises. Promises/obligations which mathematically were/are impossible to keep over time anyway. Better to face now the reality and the economic pain that must come rather than MUCH greater pain later.
If Boehner has (or uses what he has left) then ALL he has to do is pass a Debt Limit increase: then you’ll (or he’ll) have used OBAMA’S FEAR back on him! It’s perfect.
“Union” is a TOTALLY wrong word to use here on this Conservative website.. United (together) is, I think, a much better way to describe it.
Don’t count on Boehner. The are rumblings that he is waving the white flag (again) and will allow a floor vote of a Senate bill.
Ok you are right. WE ARE UNITED> ISSA was a plant . We must howl like hell.No mercy.
Strike! Strike! Strike!
He knows better but believes we’re all stupid enough to buy into dim bulb scare tactics.
He’s trying hard, but he’s delusional if he thinks he can bring down Sen. Cruz.
Barack Hussein Obama's history and John Boehner's history of letting him get away with such unconstitutional moves.
If Obama refuses to make those debt payments on time then he and Lew need to be fired and have someone else take the checkbook.
Karl Rove uses Twitter to engage against conservatives. It’s time to fight back
SUCK IT GOPE!!!
Keep it shut. Default already then impeach Odingo.
I agree with you.
But it’s a way to mock them and throw it back in their face Alinsky style.
I said “perhaps”.
Boehner has protected the RINOs from casting votes on Harry’s “clean” CR.
They owe him big time, Very big time.
He could save his Speakership and Mitch’s re-election (and the country) by calling in his markers in exchange for them voting down Harry’s bill.
Or not... It is hard to imagine Mitch and John doing the smart thing.
“Dim mantra...talking points”
He spouts their mantra as if he’s one of them. Hmmm, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that he personally hands out the dim talking points sheet.
I know this for sure and certain, we’re in his way. He despises us and all those who represent us.