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Senate leaders finalizing deal
politco ^ | 10/15 | By MANU RAJU and BURGESS EVERETT

Posted on 10/15/2013 6:41:14 PM PDT by RummyChick

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are finalizing a deal to avert a debt default and reopen the government, capping a frantic day that had Washington bracing for an economic crisis of its own making.

The deal is essentially done, sources say, as aides for the two leaders finish drafting the legislative language Tuesday night.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; barf; bho44; boehner; responsibleadults; shutdown
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The picture at the site cracks me up.
1 posted on 10/15/2013 6:41:14 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Every time they make a deal, the producers and future producers in this nation are screwed for the benefit of the takers.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 6:43:30 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: RummyChick

The pigs in charge of the Obama Admin are ‘more equal’ than all the other pigs in the country.


3 posted on 10/15/2013 6:44:57 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: RummyChick
Both Harry and Mitch look like they soiled their Depends. They look like candidates for horse thief of the year awards.
4 posted on 10/15/2013 6:45:00 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Republicans didn’t get squat in the deal. I hope the House Rejects it.


5 posted on 10/15/2013 6:45:20 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

LOL!!

They look close and Dingy Harry seems to be reaching out to a RINO.


6 posted on 10/15/2013 6:45:26 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: RummyChick

The key part of the deal is Mitch getting a corner office on K Street.


7 posted on 10/15/2013 6:45:35 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: MasterGunner01

I think Harry looks like this:

“I WON. I am a hard nosed SOB that took that pansy Mcconnell down.”

Mcconnell looks like a Pasty Dough Weak Chinned sissy that didn’t want to get back handed yet again by the Superior Brawler.


8 posted on 10/15/2013 6:47:07 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

What happened to forcing the politicians and their staffs onto Obamacare with the same subsidy scale we the people have to live with? I thought that was what was going down? Why is it that people who make $200K per year get subsidized health insurance from the government? We the people don’t get any subsidy over $60K.


9 posted on 10/15/2013 6:48:10 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: RummyChick

The most likely outcome is Boehner will suspend the Hastert rule and let it come to a straight-up full up/down vote in the House.

Endgame.


10 posted on 10/15/2013 6:49:25 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: blackdog

It seems only the House is interested in that...and I think it is because they dont have a six year cushion before they feel the WRATH of the people.


11 posted on 10/15/2013 6:49:48 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

All MConnell needs is a pair of breasts and he could fit into reruns of the Golden Girls.


12 posted on 10/15/2013 6:50:16 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: RummyChick

Emperor Palpitine had the right idea...”Wipe them out. Wipe them all out.”


13 posted on 10/15/2013 6:52:24 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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14 posted on 10/15/2013 6:53:12 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: RummyChick

“The deal is essentially done, sources [Durbin and Schumer per Rollcall] say”

Hey, this is POLITICO! They could ask for no better “sources” LOL!


15 posted on 10/15/2013 6:55:05 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: RummyChick

Looks like Reid’s thumb is up McConnell’s b***


16 posted on 10/15/2013 6:56:10 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: blackdog

What happened to the Vitter amendment is Mitch McConnell. He is a careerist pig with no interest in defending our liberty. McConnell and the rest of the beltway GOP leadership now own obamacare due to their non leadership the past few weeks.


17 posted on 10/15/2013 6:56:40 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: KosmicKitty

Futures are up almost 10 points tonight. Must think there will be a deal.


18 posted on 10/15/2013 6:56:53 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“The picture...”

If I saw two people looking like that after eating a dish I sure wouldn’t have any!


19 posted on 10/15/2013 6:57:24 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Da Coyote

McConnell will now be defeated real bad in his primary. He is a “girly man anyway” It is CRUZ down their throats. Find all who cave and defeat them . Bring their names to others.
these rinos are going to politically regret the shit that will fly. God Bless America and the TEA PARTY.


20 posted on 10/15/2013 6:57:49 PM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

what you described is a likely outcome. Three branches of government are controlled by dems and RINOs. Tea Party has indeed exercised a tremendous amount of influence given the powers allied against it. So it might be the endgame to this specific battle but it ain’t over. Our mission is not only to try and win skirmishes but to influence voters and educate the masses.


21 posted on 10/15/2013 6:58:48 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: RummyChick
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are finalizing a deal to avert a debt default...

Don't you hate it when the very first line of a column is a lie? So, I stopped right there.
The US brings in 10x more revenue every month than it costs to pay interest on the debt.

There is zero possibility of default.

22 posted on 10/15/2013 6:59:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RummyChick

We do NOT need to raise the debt ceiling. We have plenty of tax revenues to pay our service. Congress can easily cut enough as well from welfare, defense, Big Ag subsidies, illegal alien tax refunds, ObamaPhone, etc. to make it up as well. Why will NO ONE just come out and say this?


23 posted on 10/15/2013 7:02:52 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: montag813

“’It looks like we’re going to hold our ground, at least for now,’ said one GOP staffer on Capitol Hill, before the wheels fell off and Republicans scattered”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2461186/Armageddon-comes-Thursday-warns-banking-chief-House-GOP-Senate-Democrats-spar.html


24 posted on 10/15/2013 7:06:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Then Reid’s thumb was up his butt.

Sigh,


25 posted on 10/15/2013 7:07:11 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: RummyChick

Here is my deal. Last offer, last years budget cut 1%. Passed and sent to the senate. No more money otherwise. Then add a blitzkrieg offensive...we (the house) control the purse strings. We originate all spending and taxes. And we don’t care what the little strutting fuhrer thinks. Take it or leave it. And...Hey welfare folks, your d@mn dim senators are going to cost you your welfare checks, food stamps, etc. you better tell your dim senators to vote for the house budget. Because if the dims cause a default you will NEVER IN YOUR LIFETIME get welfare or food stamps again. Scorch the earth.


26 posted on 10/15/2013 7:12:00 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: RummyChick

McConnell looks like Reid just beat him up and stole his lunch money, the wuss.


27 posted on 10/15/2013 7:30:20 PM PDT by Guttlekraw
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To: blackdog

Are we quibling over who gets subsidized now? Is that what all the hub is about, Bub?

I thought it was all about “fundamentally changing America” into a Communist hell-hole...


28 posted on 10/15/2013 7:42:55 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

excuse me... the Senate isn’t all of Congress... you need the House...they are over the money


29 posted on 10/15/2013 7:57:17 PM PDT by flowergirl
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To: flowergirl

>excuse me... the Senate isn’t all of Congress... you need the House...they are over the money

I’m glad someone finally mentioned this! Is it sad and quaint to insist that spending bills originate in the House per the Constitution?


30 posted on 10/16/2013 3:40:15 AM PDT by Datahead
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To: RummyChick

Gee, I seem to remember an America where all bills raising revenue had to originate in the house.

I long for the days of Constitutional law and order.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 3:43:59 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: Datahead
Datahead, first of all the Constitution does NOT say that spending (appropriation) bills must originate in the House. It says bills for the raising of revenue must originate in the House (Article 1, Section 7). Not the same thing.

Second, even if it was true that spending bills must originate in the House, there have been many spending bills sent from the House to the Senate. All the Senate needs to do is take one of those and amend it to have everything they want.

That said, the point is still that the House needs to concur on any spending bill passed by the Senate. But at this point, the Republicans are so fractured (egged on by the media) that I am almost certain that the garbage bill from the Senate "deal" will pass the House.

The answer is not to call fire and brimstone on the heads of GOPe and RINOs. The answer is not to form 3rd parties that will (at best) win a few seats. The answer is to get more Republicans elected to both houses of Congress. If you have a Republican Majority Leader in the Senate and a Republican Speaker of the House, they control the agenda. I don't know if you noticed, but when the Demoncrats controlled Congress, they accepted a large number of more conservative (less liberal) members, because it gave them enough control to pass Obamacare, gays in the military and other such items. WE need to get the power to control the agenda to someone who has to listen to conservative voices - even if it means having Senator Collins as part of the coalition (do you think Maine or any of the Northeast states are going to elect Ted Cruz-types in your lifetime?). Fight in the primaries for the most conservative person who can win, then vote against the Demoncrats. Third party votes (or staying home) just lead to Demoncrat wins.

Wake up. This is a Constitutional Republic - you need to form coalitions with people who do not agree with you to get your agenda on the table.

32 posted on 10/16/2013 4:02:39 AM PDT by BruceS
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To: BruceS

Good points. Which will draw some fire here.

This stunt did nothing but hurt the GOP.


33 posted on 10/16/2013 4:32:31 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: BruceS

Your way of thinking has made government bigger, raised taxes repeatedly and increased our national debt sky high.

One hundred years of Democrat and Republican leaders both moving this nation in the wrong direction towards tyranny at differing rates of speed.


34 posted on 10/16/2013 4:33:38 AM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: RummyChick

The Senate cannot initiate a spending bill.

Only the House.

The Senate bill is dead on arrival if Boehner understands the constitution.


35 posted on 10/16/2013 4:52:07 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: BruceS
BS.

The "conservative" Dems always vote with the Dems.

The "moderate" Republicans ALSO always vote with the Dems.

Obamacare goes through and it is game effin over.

36 posted on 10/16/2013 4:58:47 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: RummyChick

“The Geritol Twins!”


37 posted on 10/16/2013 5:41:32 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: BruceS

Here is the deal. A significant percentage of us are willing to burn this mother to the ground. ALL of it... It has become that corrupt, that cancerous, that dangerous to our freedom. Our numbers grow every day, as can be observed in a growing number of OUR kind being elected to positions in government. Our goal isnt to elect people who want to use government to “make our lives better”, we elect people who will STOP government from making our lives worse, AND who will actively work to burn down the infrastructure the socialists have built. NOTHING gets done if it doesn’t benefit that goal. While we dont yet have the numbers to guarantee success, we will...

Our goal isnt to lessen the pain, or make things a little better. We want those who mean to enslave us to the collective RUINED! We want it ALL! We wont settle for anything less than freedom from the tyranny of socialists and statists. This IS a revolution. DO NOT MISTAKE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE! I am no longer faithful to this country, because this country is no longer faithful to me. One day we WILL burn down what the collectivists corrupted. Then we can rebuild.

“But what do we mean by the American Revolution? Do we mean the American war? The Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations...

...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.” - John Adams February 13, 1818


38 posted on 10/16/2013 6:01:24 AM PDT by myself6
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Look at them: experts at the “political sellout”. Traitors. You can tell just by looking at them.


39 posted on 10/16/2013 6:05:06 AM PDT by Rapscallion (With more E-mail and telephone surveillance do you feel more secure?)
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To: BruceS
you need to form coalitions with people who do not agree with you

Eighteen House Republicans plus the House Democrat caucus is not a Republican coalition. You are describing a Democrat coalition, as in the Texas legislature.

If the people want the individual mandate delayed badly enough, the votes will materialize. That is the objective of Cruz and the Tea Party caucus.

Politics is about inspiring, leading and shaping public opinion, not counting legislators.

40 posted on 10/16/2013 6:12:16 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: RummyChick
Republicans didn’t get squat in the deal. I hope the House Rejects it.

My prediction - Boehner will bring the bill to vote without the support of the majority of the majority. There will be at least the 18 needed and likely more RINO's vote for it. In effect, the will be surrendering the constitutional authority for the House to control the purse strings to the executive branch. Today, the Constitutional Republic dies and will be replaced by a democracy. The scales forever tip in favor of the takers. The mob now rules.

41 posted on 10/16/2013 6:13:54 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: myself6

100%


42 posted on 10/16/2013 6:16:18 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: lodi90

Let’s start referring to it as Mc Connellcare.


43 posted on 10/16/2013 6:22:58 AM PDT by sport
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To: BruceS

Wow-you’re making sense-who let you in here? At some point you have to realize you don’t want to die on that hill and live to fight another day.


44 posted on 10/16/2013 6:31:03 AM PDT by MaFreedom (Once more unto the breach!)
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To: plain talk

I believe that we are about get betrayed one more time. But whatever happens, we have to keep fighting. Or I am. I refuse to surrender to the bastards. I was born free and when I die, I will die free. We, given our small number and the forces that are arrayed against us, have accomplished a lot. We have delayed Obama’s and his puppet’s agenda from being implemented by at least two years, probably more. The battle we are now fighting was supposed to be a sealed deal by now. Keep fighting My FRiend, and never forget, that it is not the size of the dog in the fight that makes a difference. It the size of the fight in the dog.


45 posted on 10/16/2013 6:34:16 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Well said my FRiend. Tea party is not running the government. Dems and RINOs are. But we can fight, influence, affect and generally clog up the works as resistance guerilla fighters.

Anyone who is relying on John Borhner to stand tough and somehow defeat ObamaCare is sadly mistaken. Having said that the fight continues. The masses will eventually turn on their masters when those checks slow down and socialized services are curtailed ...but will it be too late?


46 posted on 10/16/2013 6:58:19 AM PDT by plain talk
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47 posted on 10/16/2013 10:50:05 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Nextrush
Please explain how trying to put together a coalition, led by conservatives but allowing others, that can control the agenda made gov't bigger, etc.? When Newt Gingrich tried it in the late 1990s it resulted in balanced budgets for a few years (only a down payment, but better than Demoncrats in charge).

And please tell me how putting forward candidates that don't win elections will stop the march of big government.

48 posted on 10/16/2013 12:41:08 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Correct - "conservative" Demoncrats always vote with the Dems (unless their vote is not needed, then they are free to "vote their conscience") and moderate Pubbies will many times side with the Dems. What is your point? Mine was that if you can get a coalition of enough conservatives with some other Pubbies, they get the Speakership (or Majority Leadership in the Senate) and they control the agenda. Moderate Pubbies can't vote for Demoncrat bills, because they never get to the floor.

You are right about Obamacare - it is in place and it will be almost impossible to get rid of it. But the time to worry about that was in 2012 when many conservatives were saying better Obama taking the country down than Romney slowing the decline. How's that working out for you?

The time to fight to stop something is before it starts. We need to kill amnesty NOW. But this loss is going to make it harder.

49 posted on 10/16/2013 12:48:44 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: BruceS

The candidates who “win elections” speak against big government then to go Washington to continue its existence and vote for even more of it like George W. Bush’s Medicare Part D and the GOP led TARP bailout of 2008.


50 posted on 10/16/2013 1:44:40 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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