Posted on 10/15/2013 6:41:14 PM PDT by RummyChick
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are finalizing a deal to avert a debt default and reopen the government, capping a frantic day that had Washington bracing for an economic crisis of its own making.
The deal is essentially done, sources say, as aides for the two leaders finish drafting the legislative language Tuesday night.
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what you described is a likely outcome. Three branches of government are controlled by dems and RINOs. Tea Party has indeed exercised a tremendous amount of influence given the powers allied against it. So it might be the endgame to this specific battle but it ain’t over. Our mission is not only to try and win skirmishes but to influence voters and educate the masses.
Don't you hate it when the very first line of a column is a lie? So, I stopped right there.
The US brings in 10x more revenue every month than it costs to pay interest on the debt.
There is zero possibility of default.
We do NOT need to raise the debt ceiling. We have plenty of tax revenues to pay our service. Congress can easily cut enough as well from welfare, defense, Big Ag subsidies, illegal alien tax refunds, ObamaPhone, etc. to make it up as well. Why will NO ONE just come out and say this?
“’It looks like we’re going to hold our ground, at least for now,’ said one GOP staffer on Capitol Hill, before the wheels fell off and Republicans scattered”
Then Reid’s thumb was up his butt.
Sigh,
Here is my deal. Last offer, last years budget cut 1%. Passed and sent to the senate. No more money otherwise. Then add a blitzkrieg offensive...we (the house) control the purse strings. We originate all spending and taxes. And we don’t care what the little strutting fuhrer thinks. Take it or leave it. And...Hey welfare folks, your d@mn dim senators are going to cost you your welfare checks, food stamps, etc. you better tell your dim senators to vote for the house budget. Because if the dims cause a default you will NEVER IN YOUR LIFETIME get welfare or food stamps again. Scorch the earth.
McConnell looks like Reid just beat him up and stole his lunch money, the wuss.
Are we quibling over who gets subsidized now? Is that what all the hub is about, Bub?
I thought it was all about “fundamentally changing America” into a Communist hell-hole...
excuse me... the Senate isn’t all of Congress... you need the House...they are over the money
>excuse me... the Senate isn’t all of Congress... you need the House...they are over the money
I’m glad someone finally mentioned this! Is it sad and quaint to insist that spending bills originate in the House per the Constitution?
Gee, I seem to remember an America where all bills raising revenue had to originate in the house.
I long for the days of Constitutional law and order.
Second, even if it was true that spending bills must originate in the House, there have been many spending bills sent from the House to the Senate. All the Senate needs to do is take one of those and amend it to have everything they want.
That said, the point is still that the House needs to concur on any spending bill passed by the Senate. But at this point, the Republicans are so fractured (egged on by the media) that I am almost certain that the garbage bill from the Senate "deal" will pass the House.
The answer is not to call fire and brimstone on the heads of GOPe and RINOs. The answer is not to form 3rd parties that will (at best) win a few seats. The answer is to get more Republicans elected to both houses of Congress. If you have a Republican Majority Leader in the Senate and a Republican Speaker of the House, they control the agenda. I don't know if you noticed, but when the Demoncrats controlled Congress, they accepted a large number of more conservative (less liberal) members, because it gave them enough control to pass Obamacare, gays in the military and other such items. WE need to get the power to control the agenda to someone who has to listen to conservative voices - even if it means having Senator Collins as part of the coalition (do you think Maine or any of the Northeast states are going to elect Ted Cruz-types in your lifetime?). Fight in the primaries for the most conservative person who can win, then vote against the Demoncrats. Third party votes (or staying home) just lead to Demoncrat wins.
Wake up. This is a Constitutional Republic - you need to form coalitions with people who do not agree with you to get your agenda on the table.
Good points. Which will draw some fire here.
This stunt did nothing but hurt the GOP.
Your way of thinking has made government bigger, raised taxes repeatedly and increased our national debt sky high.
One hundred years of Democrat and Republican leaders both moving this nation in the wrong direction towards tyranny at differing rates of speed.
The Senate cannot initiate a spending bill.
Only the House.
The Senate bill is dead on arrival if Boehner understands the constitution.
The "conservative" Dems always vote with the Dems.
The "moderate" Republicans ALSO always vote with the Dems.
Obamacare goes through and it is game effin over.
“The Geritol Twins!”
Here is the deal. A significant percentage of us are willing to burn this mother to the ground. ALL of it... It has become that corrupt, that cancerous, that dangerous to our freedom. Our numbers grow every day, as can be observed in a growing number of OUR kind being elected to positions in government. Our goal isnt to elect people who want to use government to “make our lives better”, we elect people who will STOP government from making our lives worse, AND who will actively work to burn down the infrastructure the socialists have built. NOTHING gets done if it doesn’t benefit that goal. While we dont yet have the numbers to guarantee success, we will...
Our goal isnt to lessen the pain, or make things a little better. We want those who mean to enslave us to the collective RUINED! We want it ALL! We wont settle for anything less than freedom from the tyranny of socialists and statists. This IS a revolution. DO NOT MISTAKE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE! I am no longer faithful to this country, because this country is no longer faithful to me. One day we WILL burn down what the collectivists corrupted. Then we can rebuild.
“But what do we mean by the American Revolution? Do we mean the American war? The Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations...
...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.” - John Adams February 13, 1818
Look at them: experts at the “political sellout”. Traitors. You can tell just by looking at them.
Eighteen House Republicans plus the House Democrat caucus is not a Republican coalition. You are describing a Democrat coalition, as in the Texas legislature.
If the people want the individual mandate delayed badly enough, the votes will materialize. That is the objective of Cruz and the Tea Party caucus.
Politics is about inspiring, leading and shaping public opinion, not counting legislators.
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