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Posted on 10/15/2013 7:17:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
This is very funny. A Daily Kos regular gets his Obamacare premium notice and is shocked to learn that as young, healthy people, he and his wife will pay twice as much!
"My wife and I just got our updates from Kaiser telling us what our 2014 rates will be. Her monthly has been $168 this year, mine $150. We have a high deductible. We are generally healthy people who don’t go to the doctor often. I barely ever go. The insurance is in case of a major catastrophe.
Well, now, because of Obamacare, my wife’s rate is gong to $302 per month and mine is jumping to $284.
I am canceling insurance for us and I am not paying any f***ing penalty. What the hell kind of reform is this?"
Good question!
"Oh, ok, if we qualify, we can get some government assistance. Great. So now I have to jump through another hoop to just chisel some of this off. And we don’t qualify, anyway, so what’s the point?
I never felt too good about how this was passed and what it entailed, but I figured if it saved Americans money, I could go along with it.
I don’t know what to think now. This appears, in my experience, to not be a reform for the people.
What am I missing?"
You’re missing the whole point of Obamacare, you poor sap. A reader enjoys the spectacle:
The whole POINT of Obamacare was abolition of private catastrophic-only health insurance for the healthy, forcing them to underwrite a double subsidy: a means tested, open-ended premium subsidy for the less affluent covering comprehensive insurance, and a health status subsidy forcing them to subsidize premiums for the sick–irrespective of either of their means!
What did they expect? Weren’t they paying attention? Or maybe it’s like Animal House–but with Obama saying “you f***** up…you trusted us.” LOL!
Stick it to every one of them.
Sadly, the comments on Daily Kos suggest that most young leftists have still not seen the light. The consensus is that the poster needs to get his mind right. In the old days, it was said that a neoconservative was a liberal who had been mugged by reality. Today’s liberals are apparently so obtuse that they can be mugged by reality–or by Barack Obama–and not notice.
Thank you very much!!
Eat your peas.
There are only two things the government should be responsible for: killing my enemies and building roads.
The rest is “giverment.”
Moron Alert. Name me one time the government saved Americans money? Americans save money by not letting the government get their scheming little brownshirt hands on it.
Stupid is supposed to hurt ... it how you learn!!!!
Apparently the talking point now is Republicans messed up Obamacare with their legislative interference....
I actually feel a bit sorry for these kids! They represent way too many of our young today - uneducated and born followers. They have bought into the Democrats line and will now be facing the consequences.
Unfortunately, too many of of us will also be brought into this nightmare and can do little to change the future except vote! Wake up!
I use the Animal House quote often, and everyone gets it...
So, it’s an extra $134 a month for him... but, hey, he gets all the free birth control he wants.
Quoting that great philosopher F Gump
Stupid is as Stupid does.
All the obots will learn he never means what he says. It’s all in the momement to advance his need or agenda
Nah, there is something more insidious going on here, thinking of putting up a discussion thread for it.
Meanwhile, this Kos Kiddie learns they are part of the 1% and there is a deliciousness to it.
Lol. The KOScums’ reactions are laughably insane denial. Can’t wait until they experience the same thing!
Of course, it will still be Bush’s and Lousy Freeper Trolls’ faults.
Reality based community my azz. Welcome to the reality YOU voted and fought so hard for, KOScum!
Schedenfraud! (Sp?)
“I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year.”
Back in 2008, we collected over 50 promises Barack Obama made about health care. He kept many of them, including signing universal health care into law and closing the doughnut hole for Medicare Part D.
When it came to health care premiums for the typical family, Obama said he would cut the annual cost by $2,500. Months before Obama took office, a New York Times reporter dubbed it one of the most audacious pledges of the campaign.
We reached out to David Cutler, an economist who advised Obama during the 2008 campaign and helped calculate the $2,500 figure that appeared in Obama’s speeches. He said the calculation encompassed total health care costs, not just premiums. These would include out-of-pocket costs, employer-provided insurance costs, and taxes to pay for public insurance programs.
Cutler acknowledged that Obama made “occasional misstatements” that tied the $2,500 reduction to premiums and not total medical spending. We can’t judge whether Obama misspoke, but we checked the Project Vote Smart database of public statements by politicians, which shows that Obama said premiums (and only premiums) would go down for the typical or average family by $2,500 repeatedly.
I support Obamacare~
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110215411#post1
With what ObamaCare will save me, I could afford to buy two brand new cars!
LOL...
Last comment on the KOS thread
ACA is Legal Extortion
(Snip)
Beware the unintended consequences of using govt power to achieve social goals.
In our particular case, my wife and I, age 60 and 62: health insurance is rising 129% on Jan 1, 2014. So much for affordable care for all Americans and “keeping your doctors.”
The Blame goes to us for complacence, to Obama for lying, to Kaiser for greed and corruption, and to modern progressives in general for using fascist means to achieve social goals.
It’s like a story from Solzhenitsyn, minus the surreptitious phone calls to the KGB to report counterrevolutionary activities. But that is coming.
Most posters at the DUmp are delusional. They think Obamacare will be wonderful.
LOL @ I see dead people satire...
You know Obama’ staff posted that crap, right?
I read the comments-the thread’s author indicated that he’s 42 yo, and the wife is 40yo. Way old enough to have known better. No pity whatsoever. Leftys don’t grow up, they just grow old and whinier than ever.
They’re not kids-he’s 42, the wife is 40. Just old and stupid.
You mean they don’t automatically blame the evil insurance company??!!. . .wow. . maybe there is hope!
Now the bill comes due..they thought it was going to be someone else to pick up the tab.
Bending the cost curve, Obama style...
Apparently the talking point now is Republicans messed up Obamacare with their legislative interference....
"I never felt too good about how this was passed and what it entailed, but I figured if it saved Americans money, I could go along with it."
Self proclaimed two time Obama voter
...she’s now shocked, just shocked over the Obamacare realities...NOTE: her premium increased by $1,800.00
"Of course, I want people to have health care," she said….
" I just didn't realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally."Cindy Vinson, San Jose California
The bite will occur when they start forcible collections. This will happen in the late summer of 2015. The manner of extraction will be a program that matches all gov’t data with a IRS computer that has no mercy.
Schadenfreude!
How California-esque of a statement!?
No they're, not. And you'll be pretty surprised to see just how QUICKLY transplants are going to be dropped from coverage.
A heart or liver transplant can cost in the neighborhood of a million dollars.
“The Blame goes to us for complacence, to Obama for lying, to Kaiser for greed and corruption, and to modern progressives in general for using fascist means to achieve social goals.”
Fascism is a form of socialism. Hitler’s fascist party was the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
If you only knew how many people I work with believe all this. Sigh.
The Epiphany of a FOOL"
These people are very shallow and ignorant of basic economics but that is not a concern to me. What is a concern is that they have empowered a government that wants to take my earnings, control my life, and make me less safe and less healthy. That makes them dangerously ignorant. However, they are still a far cry from wisdom. I will be content for now if they merely acknowledge that their opposition, the conservatives, have a legitimate point.
The phone calls will come.
obamacare is intertwined with the IRS and DHS.
IRS has already targeted Obama’s political enemies and the DHS has defined Americans who disagree with him as terrorists.
When the KOS kids start bitching on facebook, the Obama goons will be listening.
I wonder what the obamabots will do when they figure out that their dear leader is working to destroy them?
In my observation, Californian liberals are way under-taxed. They cost all Americans a fortune by voting and promoting expensive ineffective gov’t programs and the most destructive policies on earth. They need to pony-up to cover the expenses of the rest of Americans who suffer from their ignorance and misdeeds. They have gone so far into la-la land that I would not be at all surprised to wake up and discover that liberal Californians were demanding that government provide free fairy dust to everyone.
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