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Is John Kerry a Better Secretary of State Than Hillary Clinton?
Defense One ^ | 10/15 | Michael Hirsh

Posted on 10/15/2013 7:34:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway

"The big Kerry arm." That's how some of his Senate staff used to describe John Kerry's approach to negotiation. It's reminiscent of what Lyndon Baines Johnson used to do to his Senate colleagues: a little light physical pressure to drive home a point. You can bet that at some point over the weekend the six-foot-four Kerry, who landed in Kabul on an unannounced visit Friday, applied that big arm to the shoulders of the diminutive Hamid Karzai, the often combative and erratic president of Afghanistan, whom Kerry knows well and with whom no one else in the U.S. government seems able to deal.

And not surprisingly, given his recent record, Kerry got some results, inducing Karzai to accept a provisional Bilateral Security Agreement, the long-delayed pact that, if the final issues are worked out and approved by Afghanistan's parliament and council of elders, could well help safeguard the enormous investment of blood and treasure that Obama has made in that country.

Call him the un-Hillary. Unlike his predecessor, Hillary Rodham Clinton, John Kerry has always relished direct mediation in the world's trouble spots—and the more troubled, the better, aides say. Whereas Clinton, perhaps with an eye to the 2016 presidential race, appeared reluctant to personally take charge of especially hard issues ranging from Mideast peace to a Syrian truce, Kerry has jumped in eagerly. "Every single time a tough problem has fallen into John Kerry's lap, he's gone into it believing that it could be solved, and he of all people could solve it," says a senior administration official. Kerry, the failed 2004 Democratic nominee for president and the son of a career diplomat, is also said to be determined to leave behind his mark as a great secretary of State now that he no longer has political ambitions.

Thus, in the last two months alone Kerry has reopened talks between the Israelis and Palestinians, negotiated a chemical weapons ban in Syria—thus saving his boss, Barack Obama, humiliation over a threatened attack that Congress was about to vote down—found unusual common ground with the often recalcitrant Russians, and met in a historic sit-down with Iran's new foreign minister, Mohammed Javad Zarif.

"It may look like he's playing all positions on the field," says Jonah Blank of Rand Corp., a former aide to Kerry on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. "He's tried to engage in a lot of issues, and there are people who say he's spreading himself too thin. But many diplomatic breakthroughs come from simply being in the right place at the right time. Was it lucky that [Russian President Vladimir] Putin took him up on his offer to have [Syrian dictator Bashar] Assad give up all his chemical weapons? Luck-- and hard work."

In that instance, Kerry made a seemingly casual offer to Assad, saying the only way that the Syrian leader could avoid threatened U.S. airstrikes was to surrender his chemical weapons; within hours, Kerry's Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, took Kerry up on the idea and induced Assad to comply. In Afghanistan, Kerry had hoped to persuade the Afghan leader to sign a bilateral security agreement that will not commit the United States to defend Afghanistan against Pakistan, as Karzai was demanding, among other issues. As is often the case with difficult diplomacy, Kerry got some and gave some, getting a pledge from Karzai to grant the United States legal jurisdiction over the conduct of U.S. troops -- a provision that will require a loya jirga to approve it-- while reportedly giving Karzai some general guarantees on the defense question.

Obama had good reason to call on Kerry to drop in on Karzai, which the secretary of State did after filling in for the president at a multilateral summit in Asia because of the government shutdown. Back in 2009, when Kerry was still chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the administration also asked him to talk to Karzai after accusations of fraud in the Afghan elections. Kerry got Karzai to commit to a runoff. The late U.S special representative Richard Holbrooke, in an interview at the time, recalled that Kerry "worked Karzai very effectively, talking to him very personally from the gut. John talked about his own acceptance of the [disputed] outcome in Ohio in 2004, in order to get Karzai to understand there was nothing wrong with getting a second round."

If he succeeds in getting the bilateral security pact approved, Kerry could well save Obama's legacy yet again. Though the president has threatened to leave Afghanistan completely after the planned post-2014 withdrawal if Karzai doesn't accede to the U.S. position – just as he did Iraq-- Obama actually has far more at stake in Afghanistan. Iraq was always, to Obama, a "dumb" war; a conflict that never should have been fought. But after nearly six years of drift under George W. Bush, it was Obama who, in 2009, reclaimed ownership of Afghanistan, launching his own "surge," hiring and firing his commanding generals and ultimately assembling a nearly 350,000-strong Afghan fighting force.

Yet success still hangs in the balance. Over the weekend Kerry, combining smooth inducements to Karzai with his special brand of tough talk (orotund though it sometimes is), warned that "if the issue of jurisdiction cannot be resolved, then, unfortunately, there cannot be a bilateral security agreement." Without one, it is not hard to imagine Afghanistan falling into another civil war of the kind that originally gave birth to the Taliban—and to 9/11. A trip to Afghanistan by this reporter in mid-May revealed that senior U.S., NATO and Afghan officials believe they cannot succeed unless a military contingent of perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 troops remains, along with help in the air, and that can only occur under a bilateral security pact. Lt. Gen. Nick Carter, the deputy commander of the International Security Assistance Force under Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, said then that the U.S.-NATO plan to train, advise, and assist the Afghan forces will take at least until 2018 to complete. Those views were echoed by Army Chief of Staff Sher Mohammad Karimi, who said the Afghan military and police will need major assistance in logistics, air support, medical services "maybe for another 5-10 years." Other NATO nations are now waiting on Washington and Kabul to sign an accord before they commit their own forces. So a very great deal depends right now on John Kerry.

Is Kerry, only nine months on the job, already proving to be a better secretary of State than Hillary Clinton? To be fair to Clinton, she delegated Afghanistan and Pakistan to Holbrooke, one of America's most able diplomats, and the Middle East to George Mitchell, the former U.S. senator. She also became secretary of State at a rawer time for America, when the key task of the new Obama administration was to restore some luster to a U.S. image badly tarnished by the ongoing Iraq war and the global financial crisis triggered by Wall Street. As a result, the administration was then focused on emphasizing the "soft" diplomacy of U.S. image-building, values-promotion and influence over "hard" or coercive diplomacy, in other words personal mediation in conflicts.

But neither did Clinton seem eager to step in when Holbrooke and Mitchell or other special envoys failed to make headway. It's also clear that Kerry's efforts are largely of his own making—especially in the Mideast, where the White House appears to have somewhat reluctantly let him try, marginalizing previous efforts to "pivot" its interests to Asia. And to a striking degree, Kerry's efforts to bring Israelis and Palestinian together, to negotiate a truce in Syria at a "Geneva II" conference, and to find common ground with Iran on its nuclear program are all pieces of the same puzzle. Iran, for example, will continue to shore up Syria's Assad and Hezbollah as long as it fears military threats from Israel and the United States over its nuclear program. If those threats abate, and some kind of nuclear agreement is signed, it might just be possible for Kerry to also induce Tehran to separate itself from the Assad regime, thereby making a truce in the civil war easier. A similar logic applies to Russia, which has also backed Assad and often seen itself as an adversary to U.S. interests in the region.

Until now, one of the biggest sticking points over a Syria peace conference is whether Iran would attend, but the new opening between Washington and Tehran could help solve that issue. It is no small matter that Iranian Foreign Minister Zarif is the same Iranian diplomat who helped the U.S. to create the post-Taliban Afghan government at a conference in Bonn in late 2001. Like Kerry, Zarif is also a master at finding common ground.

In truth, the prospects for Israeli-Palestinian peace or an agreement with Iran that would halt the nuclear program that the Islamic Republic has dedicated itself to for decades look quixotic at best. What's also not very clear as yet is how much Kerry is making administration strategy, versus simply carrying it out energetically, as Clinton often did. To a striking degree, new National Security Advisor Susan Rice has taken charge inside the White House, officials say, and Obama himself remains his own No. 1 strategist. But if there are deals to be made and Kerry's the one in the camera shot, he'll get a lot of the credit. And he may yet leave a considerable mark as America's top diplomat.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nationalsecurityfail

1 posted on 10/15/2013 7:34:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Is a turd worse than a POS? It’s a distinction without a difference.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 7:36:35 PM PDT by vette6387 (i)
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To: nickcarraway

Neither one of them was/is worth a crap as Secretary of State.


3 posted on 10/15/2013 7:37:12 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: vette6387

Ditto


4 posted on 10/15/2013 7:37:27 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: nickcarraway

Does this turd small any better than this turd?


5 posted on 10/15/2013 7:37:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: nickcarraway
He hasn't gotten anyone killed.

Yet.

/johnny

6 posted on 10/15/2013 7:38:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: nickcarraway

they both suck only thing is Kerry hasn’t got anyone killed yet.


7 posted on 10/15/2013 7:40:09 PM PDT by Farnsworth (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: nickcarraway
He's prettier.

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8 posted on 10/15/2013 7:40:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: nickcarraway

Are shingles better than poison ivy?


9 posted on 10/15/2013 7:41:13 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: nickcarraway

Is getting Ebola better than getting Wasting Brain Disease?

Just dunno. Never wanted either.


10 posted on 10/15/2013 7:43:18 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: nickcarraway

Kerry vs. Clinton — a battle of aging lesbians.


11 posted on 10/15/2013 7:44:52 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: nickcarraway

12 posted on 10/15/2013 7:45:47 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: nickcarraway

A poke in the eye with a sharp stick or a hot poker?


13 posted on 10/15/2013 7:46:20 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin - Last Man Standing (Ironic, ain't it?))
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To: nickcarraway

He was better before he was worse.


14 posted on 10/15/2013 7:46:38 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: nickcarraway

Is an infected boil better than an inflamed pustule?


15 posted on 10/15/2013 7:51:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: nickcarraway

A turd is a turd is a turd, doesn’t matter if it is hard or soft, light brown or dark brown. Both of them look like sh*t, act like sh*t and in their wake they leave the smell of sh*t.


16 posted on 10/15/2013 7:52:08 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: nickcarraway


17 posted on 10/15/2013 7:56:15 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: nickcarraway

Aren’t they BOTH turds? I’ve always thought so.


18 posted on 10/15/2013 7:58:04 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: nickcarraway

Even if he is, it’s not saying much. Anybody is a better SOS than Hillary Benghazi.


19 posted on 10/15/2013 7:58:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Constitution is obsolete only if you see Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto as a replacement.)
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To: nickcarraway

I am loathed to say it....

yes.....

Ugh, pass the bleach


20 posted on 10/15/2013 7:59:24 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: nickcarraway

Next question.

Does a potato have more personality than John Kerry?

(X) potato
( ) Kerry
( ) undecided


21 posted on 10/15/2013 8:00:02 PM PDT by Farnsworth (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: nickcarraway

Is one skunk less smelly than another?


22 posted on 10/15/2013 8:00:32 PM PDT by Route395
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To: nickcarraway

John Kerry is a traitor. No matter what he does hje cannot erase that fact.

He would make a much better prisoner at Guantanamo than a Secretary of State.


23 posted on 10/15/2013 8:00:55 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: nickcarraway
Is cancer a better way to die than syphilis? Pick your poison.

Francoise Kerry, whose only contribution to the US is being the first to be awarded a Purple Heart for getting hit in the butt with some grains of rice (as you may check out to be factual at your leisure).

Or Hitlery, who, "on principle" mind you, hasn't told ANY truth in public, ever, of which I'm aware, and has demonstrably lied in its public statements since, at minimum, 1979.

Note to wannabee grammar Nazis: "its" in the previous sentence is NOT an error.

24 posted on 10/15/2013 8:02:38 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: nickcarraway

Two sentences and I knew it was a piece of puffery. What hacks we have these days posing as journalists.


25 posted on 10/15/2013 8:03:05 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (The issue isn't the issue-power is the issue.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes he is better, but that is not saying much since I could not imagine worse.


26 posted on 10/15/2013 8:14:02 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: cripplecreek

27 posted on 10/15/2013 8:16:24 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: nickcarraway

I laughed.


28 posted on 10/15/2013 8:27:59 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

They’re two halves of a Halloween costume, both are the back half.

Thanks nickcarraway.


29 posted on 10/15/2013 8:39:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: nickcarraway

I am 5’6” and have never been intimidated by anyone longer of arm or bigger of stature. In fact the last idiot who tried something like this was on my last ship. He reached out and palmed my noggin like a b’ball. I put an uppercut into his underarm that left colors for weeks. Mike Tyson would have been proud of that upper cut.
I can definitively state that Lurch is a pussy. I have a bad back and could kick his ass in less than the time it took to type this. Whoever wrote this article is a sycophantic tool.


30 posted on 10/15/2013 8:43:43 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: nickcarraway

Is Jack the Ripper a better murderer than Hannibal Lecter?


31 posted on 10/15/2013 8:48:21 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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32 posted on 10/15/2013 8:51:02 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: nickcarraway
Is John Kerry a Better Secretary of State Than Hillary Clinton?

They are both carrying out the foreign policy of Barrack Obama. The question is irrelevant.

33 posted on 10/15/2013 8:54:27 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: nickcarraway

No, but at this point, what difference does it make?


34 posted on 10/15/2013 9:00:43 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: nickcarraway

I would be a better secretary of state than was Hillary...we still don’t know what happened in Benghazi and I can’t even spell it.


35 posted on 10/15/2013 9:33:54 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: vette6387

It’s a tie.

Measured by pompousness, it’s Kerry.

Measured by viciousness, it’s HRC.


36 posted on 10/15/2013 9:38:03 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: vette6387

Precisely. Thread closed on that. :)


37 posted on 10/15/2013 9:42:24 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: nickcarraway

Pancreatic cancer has a 99% mortality rate, while liver cancer has only a 95% mortality rate. Would a sensible person discuss which is better?


38 posted on 10/16/2013 2:24:21 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t understand how the hell he got to be sec of state in the first place


39 posted on 10/16/2013 3:00:29 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: nickcarraway
Is John Kerry a Better Secretary of State Than Hillary Clinton?

Is bull poop better than cow poop? Are there degrees of "vile?"

40 posted on 10/16/2013 3:15:10 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: nickcarraway

America’s enemies and friends are bored to death with the verbosity of both of Obama’s choices. Who knows, they might actually concede something in order to get them to leave.

They’re both ugly enough to either scare or cause our enemies to regurgitate.

These two fools show the world that Obama is either a complete fool, or that he deliberately chooses people who represent the worst America has to offer.


41 posted on 10/16/2013 3:51:34 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: nickcarraway
Is John Kerry a Better Secretary of State Than Hillary Clinton?

That is like asking which is better to step into, dog sh*t, or cow sh*t..

42 posted on 10/16/2013 9:54:28 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Is Obama's caddy considered "essential personnel"?)
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To: nickcarraway

Golden tongue scraper award to that writer.


43 posted on 10/17/2013 8:48:23 AM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Abedin Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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