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Affordable Care Act driving some premiums up
ABC-7 San Francisco ^ | October 15, 2013 | By Michael Finney

Posted on 10/15/2013 8:27:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

SAN FRANCISCO - One reason the Republicans are so adamantly against Obamacare, is that it's driving individual insurance premiums up. And with the law now kicking in, the bills are coming due.

In looking into this, we talked to health insurance companies, and representatives of Covered California, agency implementing the Affordable Care Act in California. What they told us may be a bitter pill to swallow, for those who will pay more.

Cynthia Jaynes thought her family would benefit from the Affordable Care Act.

The author of several young adult books says her family will see a minimum 11 percent increase in her premiums with Blue Shield but that's not what bothers her the most.

"We would have to pay, out of pocket, for all of our prescriptions until we reached that $9,000 family deductible," said Jaynes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; demlies; failure; obamacare; rinocare; sanfranpsycho; surprisesurprise; taxincrease
Nancy Pelosi's voters.
1 posted on 10/15/2013 8:27:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So sorry. Thanks for playing.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 8:28:25 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
"I wanted the Affordable Health Care Act. The problem is, is it's not affordable," she said.
3 posted on 10/15/2013 8:29:28 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Johnston says under the law anyone who has to pay more than 9.5 percent of their income for health insurance is exempt from having to purchase it.

Not since Obama re-wrote the law from the WH and waived that cap for another year.

4 posted on 10/15/2013 8:31:08 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Vince Ferrer

According to the CT website, my $6,350 deductible and almost $300/month premium is much more affordable. /s


5 posted on 10/15/2013 8:32:56 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You’ve served the public well all these years.

Enjoy your retirement


6 posted on 10/15/2013 8:33:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Some premiums.

Just ... some ...

LOL!

7 posted on 10/15/2013 8:33:23 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: digger48
That's of little consolation to a Novato woman who sent us her notice from Kaiser showing a premium increase of 106 percent. She too does not qualify for subsidies.
8 posted on 10/15/2013 8:33:38 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Anyone who found an increase in their premiums “unexpected”, I recommend that they join Free Republic.


9 posted on 10/15/2013 8:33:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Constitution is obsolete only if you see Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto as a replacement.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Eat your peas.

We won.


10 posted on 10/15/2013 8:35:57 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t forget to send a generous check to the DNC...BEFORE you go broke.


11 posted on 10/15/2013 8:37:06 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Some?! Show me any that are going down, or, even, staying the same. The Shut Up and Die Act require so many covered items, that, it is not possible to make the pool small enough that it is affordable.


12 posted on 10/15/2013 8:39:24 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They won’t get it, but this is the inevitable point in every useful idiot’s life when it is revealed they were just a means to give someone else power. It is a little late for refunds.


13 posted on 10/15/2013 8:39:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
That's of little consolation to a Novato woman who sent us her notice from Kaiser showing a premium increase of 106 percent. She too does not qualify for subsidies.

Aww but think of all the poor people she's helping out.

She's just sad because she's getting soaked when she thought it was only the RICH !

14 posted on 10/15/2013 8:42:35 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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15 posted on 10/15/2013 8:48:19 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Newbomb Turk

Obamacare was sold to help the 30 million uninsured.

The 300 million with insurance are now getting the bill and the rocks in their head are exploding.


16 posted on 10/15/2013 8:52:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
They won't get it?

Sky is blue.

God is love.

Mathematics has neither malice nor mercy.

If this wasn't the most predictable observation ever, read the last paragraph, in which the alleged journalist notes that most people won't see any increases because their premiums are paid by their employers.

No dumbasses, they aren't.

Increased premiums are paid by you in the form of reduced salaries, reductions in other benefits, and demands for increased productivity. At some point the employer next has to either reduce headcount, or reduce hours of certain employees under 30 hrs/wk, and send them off on their own.

I'll make a more certain prediction: every moron in this article will be crying and screaming inside of six months that the real problem with 0-care is that it doesn't go far enough.

17 posted on 10/15/2013 8:53:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ve said this before: Hard to believe, but many Democrats are getting re-signed at work, dealing with next years budget for health care for employees, and so on...they are NOT going to be happy, either.

This thing will blow up on its own, without any help from Republicans.


18 posted on 10/15/2013 8:53:12 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: FredZarguna

” most people won’t see any increases because their premiums are paid by their employers.”

This outrageous lie won’t fly even in San Fransisco.


19 posted on 10/15/2013 8:54:22 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“some” == “almost all”


20 posted on 10/15/2013 8:54:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Oldeconomybuyer. Surprisingly accurate:
One reason the Republicans are so adamantly against Obamacare, is that it's driving individual insurance premiums up. And with the law now kicking in, the bills are coming due. In looking into this, we talked to health insurance companies, and representatives of Covered California, agency implementing the Affordable Care Act in California. What they told us may be a bitter pill to swallow, for those who will pay more.

21 posted on 10/15/2013 8:55:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Anyone who found an increase in their premiums “unexpected”, I recommend that they join Free Republic.

I recommend they stick a gun in their mouth and put the rest of us out of our misery.

Joining FR isn't going to help, because these morons are ineducable. One of them actually says for all it's flaws, 0bamacare is a good first start. In other words, its real problem is that it doesn't confiscate enough, does redistribute enough, doesn't control enough, isn't big government enough.

These folks have been piling failure on top of failure since March 4, 1933. They aren't going to learn at FR or anywhere else.

22 posted on 10/15/2013 8:57:03 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Liberals thought Obama would figure a way to only stick it to Republicans on costs for ObamaCare... That’s what’s funny.


23 posted on 10/15/2013 9:00:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Their reactions will be:

1. Blame Bush
2. Praise Obama for his “boldness.”


24 posted on 10/15/2013 9:06:52 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: SunkenCiv
If by "surprisingly accurate," you mean "typically clueless." Re-read that last line again:

What they told us may be a bitter pill to swallow, for those who will pay more.

EVERYONE is going to pay more. The wage suppression, demands for increased productivity, cutbacks to other benefits, layoffs and reduction in hours required for employers to meet the premium increases are just the start.

People who've paid 3% of their income to Medicare have just watched the government siphon $750 BILLION from their paychecks (retroactively contributed over decades) to pay for 30 million uninsured deadbeats, crack whores, and meth heads, many of whom will not even sign up until they arrive with some substance related health catastrophe at the emergency room.

Board certification of Third World "doctors," less money for research, more cost shifting, and overall reduced quality will follow quickly after, as will a deteriorating dollar since the true cost has never been accurately scored by CBO. Inflation is a tax on EVERYONE, and hurts those least able to absorb it the most; exactly those people 0bamacare was supposed to be helping.

25 posted on 10/15/2013 9:07:29 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: FredZarguna

Someone thinks this is a good first start??? Unbelievable!

Some people just don’t have brains that can function properly.


26 posted on 10/15/2013 9:08:16 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
"Affordable Care Act driving premiums up, along with impossible deductibles. A real Bait-n-Switch."

There fixed it to be more accurate and less full of wiggle room.

27 posted on 10/15/2013 9:08:52 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Aria
Scumbag 0bamacare Girl says it best:


28 posted on 10/15/2013 9:11:41 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I clicked on the “Covered California” calculator, and it said server error!

Not that I’m in California or would want their insurance!


29 posted on 10/15/2013 9:23:13 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: depressed in 06

Wait, you mean the rates haven’t dropped by $2,500 per family? Say it isn’t so!


30 posted on 10/15/2013 9:28:03 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: The Antiyuppie

” most people won’t see any increases because their premiums are paid by their employers.”

Their premiums may not go up on 1/1/2014 but wait until they go to the doctor and find out that they will be paying on their deductible most of the year unless they are fortunate enough to have to have several major hospital stays.

Some docs offices are getting the first wave of benefits for patients whose new policy year was effective 10/1/2013. Co-pays are equal to 90% of the contracted fee schedule and insurance only pays the other 10%. Surprise surprise. Why even have insurance?


31 posted on 10/15/2013 9:48:19 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: musicman


32 posted on 10/15/2013 10:08:10 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Newbomb Turk

She’s paying premiums for all those Mexicans that Pelosi and Brown welcome to the state. I think it’s funny as hell.


33 posted on 10/15/2013 10:15:37 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: FredZarguna

I know people who have a lot of money and people who make a lot of money who will defend to the death everything obama does. They’ll even write the checks.


34 posted on 10/15/2013 10:18:01 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“I wanted the Affordable Health Care Act. The problem is, is it’s not affordable,” she said.”

That’s what you get for depending on the government for ANYTHING.

Here ended the lesson.


35 posted on 10/15/2013 10:22:53 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“That’s of little consolation to a Novato woman who sent us her notice from Kaiser showing a premium increase of 106 percent. She too does not qualify for subsidies. “

And she gets to have a gun to her head forcing her to buy it also.


36 posted on 10/15/2013 10:24:33 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Jaynes is an idiot - she thinks it’s a great first step. No sympathy.


37 posted on 10/15/2013 10:33:11 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: FredZarguna

“every moron in this article will be crying and screaming inside of six months that the real problem with 0-care is that it doesn’t go far enough.”

“We have to fix it or people will be dying in the streets.” That’s why you call them morons.


38 posted on 10/15/2013 11:26:24 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Vince Ferrer


39 posted on 10/15/2013 11:28:51 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (National Pk Srv: “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obamacare was sold to help the 30 million uninsured.

The 300 million with insurance are now getting the bill and the rocks in their head are exploding.

Bingo. Well said!

40 posted on 10/15/2013 11:33:24 PM PDT by nutmeg (I don't always speak to Obama voters. But when I do, I order fries...)
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But Obama said it will cost less than your cell phone bill and signing up will be easier than ordering a Pizza.

Gee, why isn’t the media holding him to his word?

Maybe because they are all a bunch of Obama butt-boys.

If we had an honest media, this clown would have never been elected.

Instead, they held him up as some kind of Messiah while trashing a true American, Sarah Palin.

Freakin’ idiots.

Obama and the majority of the MSM should be out of a job and even in jail for tyranny.

Thanks Obama voters - you’ve flushed a once-great country down the drain. How stupid were you to believe the BS coming out of the mouth of this con man?

Had I known that half of America was this stupid, I would have worked in sales, but I have a conscious unlike out MSM and Homobama.

And people wonder why I’m getting the hell out of here when I turn 62...

Hopefully Social Security will still be solvent by then, but I’m not counting on it. I see the worst case scenario occurring thanks to the Boy Blunder and it’s going to be ugly.

I hope all those 20-somethings that voted for “Hope and Change” get their taxes jacked sky-high to pay for Obama’s incompetence.

Either way, we’re on borrowed time and I believe that time will run out during my lifetime.

Meanwhile, the MSM acts like everything is just Jim fukking Dandy.

Just a few short years ago, Ronald Reagan was President and America was riding high.

Then the Dems got into power and trashed our once great country in just a few short years.

What a freakin’ nightmare.

And now Kalifornia is giving DL’s to Illegals, letting them practice law, giving them General Assistance, Food Stamps, Section 8 housing, etc...all at the expense of people that have worked hard their entire lives just to see some Dems piss it all away.

Sadly, our once great country is gone and it’s not coming back. Not in my lifetime anyway.

And it’s only going to get worse. Guess who the MSM will blame?


41 posted on 10/16/2013 1:18:30 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (FUBO and the Transvestite that you call a wife.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
I don't object to that.

The moral issue here is why they feel they're entitled to force me to join their charity at the point of a gun. I don't force -- or even ask -- them to contribute to my charities. If they want to provide healthcare for deadbeats, no one will try to stop them.

The truth is that the principle that's more important to them is that every knee must bow to their god, not that they want to help the poor.

42 posted on 10/16/2013 1:34:48 AM PDT by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I saw a 340% increase in my cancer insurance and a 40% increase in the basic healthcare premium.

Not only that but my co-pays are gone and like the article says, I have to burn through a ton of money before I see any benefit.

I understand from many that they have lost their low priced insurance due to Obamacare.

I've heard of people loosing their jobs due to the Affordable Health Care Act (yeah real affordable to loose your job).

Obamacare is a disaster imposed upon America.

43 posted on 10/16/2013 1:37:57 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: FredZarguna

Can you imagine the ridicule that teenage girl is getting for being the face of Obamacare.


44 posted on 10/16/2013 2:35:36 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: MacMattico

The reason Obunga won’t move on the individual mandate delay is because once his Marxist Healthcare plan is off and running, it will be hard to stop. A vast majority of Americans get their insurance through their jobs and have not seen what next years premiums will be. It’s going to be ugly once they are published at which point the Anti Obamacare movement will be whipped into a real frenzy.


45 posted on 10/16/2013 2:45:52 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama and his henchmen are to be from here on,to be known as The Obama reparation administration,with the pigford case,the unaffordable for Whitey care act as prime evidence.


46 posted on 10/16/2013 3:39:05 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"We would have to pay, out of pocket, for all of our prescriptions until we reached that $9,000 family deductible," said Jaynes.

PER YEAR!

Every year.

47 posted on 10/16/2013 3:42:28 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: savedbygrace
“We would have to pay, out of pocket, for all of our prescriptions until we reached that $9,000 family deductible,” said Jaynes.

PER YEAR!

Every year.


There are some reputable Company's out of India which can supply her with Drugs that are safe, effective and relatively cheap.

48 posted on 10/16/2013 4:10:47 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: DAC21
“I do want to emphasize that I don't want the Affordable Care Act repealed. There's too much good in it. It's a fabulous first step,” she said.

A good Reporter would have followed up with “What is it that you believe is good about this bill?”

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

49 posted on 10/16/2013 4:13:42 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: DAC21

To all LIBs/DIMs/RINOs... Bwahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I find your squirming, whining and discomfort somewhat amusing and entertaining. May YOUR “affordable” bill strip your finances until you are wandering aimlessly begging for mercy.


50 posted on 10/16/2013 1:15:05 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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