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Boehner Eyes House Vote on Senate Bill
NationalJournal ^ | October 16, 2013 | Billy House

Posted on 10/16/2013 7:22:43 AM PDT by Cheerio

The speaker is considering a vote on the Senate-brokered deal, even if conservatives object.

Speaker John Boehner is considering letting the House take the initial vote Wednesday on a Senate-prepared bill to lift the debt ceiling and restart funding for the shuttered federal government--apparently even if House conservatives object.

If they do object, it would mean Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and her House Democrats could become critical to its passage.

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KEYWORDS: boehner; house; shutdown
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Anyone still doubt it is time to relegate the Gelding Old Party to the status of THIRD PARTY?
1 posted on 10/16/2013 7:22:43 AM PDT by Cheerio
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To: Cheerio
Where are all of those losers who have repeatedly claimed that we simply can't do a third party but that we need to work from inside the Republican Party to change it.

WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE GET!

2 posted on 10/16/2013 7:30:00 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cheerio

A must read before Boner leads House Republicans into political suicide:

Rep. McClintock (R-CA) breaks down the debt crisis

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3079347/posts


3 posted on 10/16/2013 7:30:26 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Cheerio
Is there actually a bill in either house or senate for them to actually vote on?

/johnny

4 posted on 10/16/2013 7:30:49 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip
Boner leads House Republicans into political suicide


5 posted on 10/16/2013 7:34:36 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Is there actually a bill in either house or senate for them to actually vote on?

Must be another one of those "vote on it so we can see what is in it" deals.

Even if Boehner doesn't cave, I think we can assume Pelosi has enough RINO's lined up to process a discharge petition.

Pretty slick move by Democrats; taking the majority away from Republicans.

6 posted on 10/16/2013 7:35:38 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: IamConservative
There still has to be a bill filed with the rules committee. I haven't seen a bill number in either chamber.

/johnny

7 posted on 10/16/2013 7:37:03 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cheerio

I hope the true, loyal, conservative Americans can muster the votes to stop this. They need to stand firm.

If Boehner goes along and then has a minority of republicans vote for this with a large majority of democrats, then it is obvious whose leader he really is when it counts.

It will prove what we here have known for years...that the leadership in the GOP of Boehner, McConnel, etc. and their enablers, consultants, etc. are not aligned with the conservative principles of the majority of Republicans or what this nation was founded upon and prospered upon. They need to be run out of town on rail and we need to purge the inner vessel of them.

It will make clear that the Democratic Party and the GOP leadership are in league to spend the nation into oblivioin, one being just a “light” version of the other.

As I say, many of us here have known this for many years and have and will continue to fight it.

America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


8 posted on 10/16/2013 7:37:26 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Timber Rattler

I’m through with the GOP. They left my family and I long ago, as it moved to the left.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 7:37:51 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Cheerio

“Initial vote of a senate prepared bill”? What the fudge is Boehner thinking? Bizarre. Insane.


10 posted on 10/16/2013 7:39:25 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Timber Rattler
The Party people are dwindling. Just look at the number of stay-at-homes for the last two elections. I'm ready to begin knocking RINOs out of office and damn the (short term) consequences.
11 posted on 10/16/2013 7:40:08 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Cheerio

He’s asking for the vote because that’s Obama’s complaint....you won’t even let them vote. Just hang on.


12 posted on 10/16/2013 7:42:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Timber Rattler

EXACTLY!

Every time some of us say “Third Party” we get, “you’re just electing Demo-rats. Well guys and gals ... what we have is MUCH worse.

The GOP is dead and gelded. I’m not going down with this sinking ship. It is time for the Tea Party and real Conservatives to bold from the GOP.

Holding your nose and voting for whoever they shove at us is not working. It never has and never will.


13 posted on 10/16/2013 7:46:20 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: lodi90
I don't even see that there is a bill for them to vote on yet.

A lot of this seems to be premature rejoicing of the GOP caving by the media.

There's a lot of procedure to go through before they can cave.

/johnny

14 posted on 10/16/2013 7:46:47 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Give it an hour or two. it’ll be there.


15 posted on 10/16/2013 7:46:49 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo
It has to hit the rules committee, get unanimous consent, or one senator can block it. That can't be done in an hour or two.

/johnny

16 posted on 10/16/2013 7:47:51 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cheerio

Just emailed Roger Williams, TX-25, to NOT support any Senate orginated bill, to fund gov’t by regular order only, and to NOT violate the Hastert rule.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 7:49:57 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I dont think you need unanimous consent if House votes first.

Secret meeting with Cruz

http://t.co/YdDUrG1DJ7


18 posted on 10/16/2013 7:50:00 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Jeff Head
I wish I could get this suggestion from Townhall article to Boehner:

UPDATE - An obvious third possibility that I should have included above: The House passes a short-term, totally clean debt ceiling hike, and the shutdown goes on. Would the Senate or the president actually block such an action?

article:

House Deal Falls Apart As Conservatives Balk, White House Threatens Veto

19 posted on 10/16/2013 7:50:14 AM PDT by Kenny (<p>)
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To: Cheerio

not sure what boehner is supposed to do. his own caucus can’t even agree on a bill, let alone one that would get through reid’s clutches and signed by the president...


20 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:25 AM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: Cheerio

why was increasing the national debt ok when congress passed the appropriations bills, but not now when it’s time to raise the debt ceiling?


21 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:25 AM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: Jeff Head

who should be the leader of the republican caucus (and thus speaker), if boehner re-signed today?


22 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:25 AM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: lodi90

he’s thinking this is the only bill that has a chance of passing congress and getting signed by obama?


23 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:25 AM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: RummyChick
Votes first on WHAT? I don't see a bill for them to vote on. It has to go through the rules committee first.

/johnny

24 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:51 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kenny

Of course the Senate and President would block that. Utter non-starter. I Prosecuted long enough to know when the other side has nothing but a bluff. You don’t ever fold to the bluffer. Boehner has nothing because he put himself into a position to have nothing and he could have had it all. Not too pleased with Cruz not being much more than a rabble-rouser but I digress.

I am sick of seeing good ideas fail because of inept GOP leaderhip. Yeah Rep Issa, that means you too.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 7:53:19 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Cheerio

The Republicans deserve to have conservatives leave the party. They really, really want to be the minority party, just like in the good-old-days of Bob Michel, House minority leader, who carried water for the Democrats as a career.


26 posted on 10/16/2013 7:53:44 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Cheerio

No, its definitely time to part ways.


27 posted on 10/16/2013 7:54:10 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Cheerio

The “deal” has been made. The commie DemocRATS win, Americans lose. That’s one heck of a “deal”.


28 posted on 10/16/2013 7:54:48 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Constitution is obsolete only if you see Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto as a replacement.)
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To: Cheerio

Time for the tea party in the house to put up or shut up and remove boner from the speaker’s office. There had better be a group in the sharpening up some knives.


29 posted on 10/16/2013 7:55:47 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Jeff Head

Good post. GOP is most certainly the lite side of the Democrat Party. Two sides of the same coin really.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 7:56:34 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Cheerio

there is NO RISK OF DEFAULT.

the media has been lying saying Armageddon will happen Oct 17 if the debt limit is not raised. that is a big lie. the media lied. Obama lied. Reid lied.

we have to call and email Republicans and tell them not to believe the media lies. what is the capital switchboard or their emails or phone numbers?


31 posted on 10/16/2013 7:56:58 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Boehner has nothing because he put himself into a position to have nothing and he could have had it all.


It wasn’t ineptitude. Boehner didn’t want this battle and has wound down his position to this point on purpose. We have been played.


32 posted on 10/16/2013 7:57:04 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: RIghtwardHo

agreed... I’m ready for a viable 3rd party.. and I do mean viable... not saying it could win, but that it needs to garner more votes than the measely amount that the libertarian party gets.

I’m listening....


33 posted on 10/16/2013 7:57:10 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: JRandomFreeper

Just heard on Fox that they’ll be voting on Senate bill that was just hammered out..so, not the original Senate bill? the new/improved Reid-MConnell bill? Can’t wait to see what’s in this garbage. Probably worse than the 1st one. Way to negotiate..we have two parties right?


34 posted on 10/16/2013 7:58:04 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Orangedog

who do you nominate to replace him as speaker?


35 posted on 10/16/2013 7:58:39 AM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: JRandomFreeper

There is some kind of “message” that can be sent by Boehner.

It’s one of those weird rules that people dont know about..like “martial law” as it applies to Congress - When Sheila Jackson Lee used it people thought she meant regular martial law.

It allows Reid to skip a cloture vote.


36 posted on 10/16/2013 7:58:41 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rainee
They still need unanimous consent, or one senator can block it.

/johnny

37 posted on 10/16/2013 7:59:44 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RummyChick
Show me.

/johnny

38 posted on 10/16/2013 8:00:21 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cheerio

Obama to Boehner: Hey bitch open the government.
Boehner to Obama: Yes sir.


39 posted on 10/16/2013 8:00:38 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: RummyChick

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/15/john-boehner-harry-reid_n_4103938.html


40 posted on 10/16/2013 8:00:40 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Cheerio

It will end his Speakership, and likely he’ll be primaried out of his job. But he’ll become the Darling of the Beltway Elite, and land on his feet in a cushy lobbyist job.


41 posted on 10/16/2013 8:00:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: txrefugee

We put them their to stop bankrupting the nation and our families. They are voting to bankrupt us more.


42 posted on 10/16/2013 8:01:19 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: JRandomFreeper
Brian BeutlerVerified account ‏@brianbeutler Senate Dem source says Boehner will send over a "clean message" tomorrow, will speed up process should anyone object to a time agreement.
43 posted on 10/16/2013 8:01:39 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Cheerio
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives

US Constitution Article 1 Section 7

This would be an unConstitutional vote.

Screw it, no one is listening. :(
44 posted on 10/16/2013 8:01:53 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: RummyChick
Sam SteinVerified account ‏@samsteinhp Boehner's peeps told Reid's peeps they'd send over a message I'm told, confirming a @brianbeutler scooplet http://huff.to/1bVdeqH
45 posted on 10/16/2013 8:02:17 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
More rumor, but no bill numbers or real action.

/johnny

46 posted on 10/16/2013 8:02:30 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stonewall_jackson215

The dishwasher in the house cafeteria would likely be an improvement over boner.


47 posted on 10/16/2013 8:02:54 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Cheerio
Republican gave tax increase in January for promise of spending cuts...

Now, we will pass a temporary budget and debt ceiling for promises of spending cuts...

Reminds me of


48 posted on 10/16/2013 8:06:41 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Cheerio

Not only does he destroy his speakership, but he guarantees a 3rd party that will allow unbridled led reign by libs for years

DC is running against citizens


49 posted on 10/16/2013 8:07:16 AM PDT by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: Cheerio
Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell in KY

Joe Carr to oust Lamar Alexander in TN

Lee Bright to oust Lindsey Graham in SC

Dr. Milton Wolf to oust Pat Roberts in KS

J D Winteregg to oust John Boehner in OH-8



PLEASE, contact Louie Gohmert and tell him we want to add his name as opposing Cornyn

50 posted on 10/16/2013 8:08:05 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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