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Park Service director blames threat of terrorism for closing Mall during shutdown
The Washington times ^ | October 16, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 10/16/2013 7:44:24 AM PDT by yoe

The National Park Service director will blame terrorism for having to shut down most of the National Mall during the government shutdown, saying that was the only way to protect the memorials with limited staff “in a post-9/11 world.”

In testimony submitted to Congress, Director Jonathan B. Jarvis said he’s only been able to keep a dozen of the normal 300 employees charged with cleaning and caring for the capital region’s memorials during the shutdown, and without the rest of his staff he cannot guarantee the safety of the property.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: bs; closures; excuses; nationalmall; parkservice; terrorism
Either Director Jarvis can move his Park Staff across the nation, militarily fast in order to fence, barricade, yellow tape, post warning signs of closure of said parks...which was remarkable fast or this shut down has been planned for months. Congress needs to ask more questions as to just when the Park Service director...was first called and from whom the call came.
1 posted on 10/16/2013 7:44:24 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

We need to disband the Park Service. They revealed their ugly faces.


2 posted on 10/16/2013 7:45:39 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: yoe

BS. It was OK to open it to the illegals, who are more likely to hide terrorists than the veterans.


3 posted on 10/16/2013 7:48:27 AM PDT by expat2
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To: yoe

bs


4 posted on 10/16/2013 7:49:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: yoe

Terrorism. ROTFL!!! Those wacky commie Democrats. This is BS. They allowed the illegal aliens to flood the Mall and prevented WWII from being on the Mall. Who is running this fiasco? The NPS or the TSA?


5 posted on 10/16/2013 7:51:12 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Constitution is obsolete only if you see Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto as a replacement.)
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To: yoe
So he actually expected those weak little barrycades that the World War II vets took down to keep out hardcore Al Qaeda bombers.

Give me a break...!

6 posted on 10/16/2013 7:51:14 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: yoe

7 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: yoe

Impossible. The world loves us now since we elected Dear Leader.


8 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:09 AM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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To: yoe

Dear God. How stupid on its face. He’s a lying SOB.

Most people don’t have to deal with the NPS other than visiting a National Park somewhere. They, and not just it’s current director, are some worthless bastards. This conduct will not surprise those who have had to deal with them on matters of access, sharing a border, etc. They are some wicked piles of crap.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:11 AM PDT by FAA
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To: yoe

Okay!

But they brought in the illegals who are no threat to terrorism.

We really need some leadership. This is pure insanity.

PURE


10 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:18 AM PDT by stanne
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To: yoe

BS...he must of really had his knickers twisted when thousands of illegals gathered.....people who wish this country harm....ask the head of DHS why they pulled border...???? oh wait the little boy king hasn’t appointed one yet...so there’s no one to blame when the next bomb goes off....WHY HASN’T ODUNGO APPOINTED A NEW SECRETARY OF DEPT. HOMELAND SECURITY?


11 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:22 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: yoe

He’s just workin’ hard to not end up in front of a congressional subcommittee by lying thru his teeth.

Wouldn’t it be interesting to put him under oath and find out who told him to do what, and when?

Not the biggest problem we face, but representative of how tyranny asserts itself, even through minor bureaucrats who will, in this case, get away with it.


12 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:56 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: yoe
So the infamous Abdul Abdul carrying twenty kilos of plastic explosives was turned back by barrycades tied together with twenty gauge wire which 90-year old veterans were able to tear down? Yeah, right. If you're going to lie to me at least work on it for five minutes.


13 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:59 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: yoe
Director Jonathan B. Jarvis needs to go, he is more a political hack than a public servant.
14 posted on 10/16/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: yoe

15 posted on 10/16/2013 7:55:22 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: yoe

The terrorists were the ones wearing the NPS uniforms.


16 posted on 10/16/2013 7:57:23 AM PDT by moovova
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To: KarlInOhio

Yeah, haul him up to Cap Hill, put him under oath and ask him those very questions.

Then show him pix of WWII vets in wheelchairs and ask him if that’s what he thinks a terrorist looks like.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 8:02:06 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: yoe

Trey Gowdy asked why he can shut down the WWII monument when he allows a protest..or whatever it was (his words) on adjacent property. Damn I love this guy.


18 posted on 10/16/2013 8:03:11 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Timber Rattler
" So he actually expected those weak little barrycades that the World War II vets took down to keep out hardcore Al Qaeda bombers. "

Spitball toothpick troopers...

But yet ? the Secret Service and D.C. police shot to death a unarmed black woman with baby in car ?
19 posted on 10/16/2013 8:06:35 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: yoe

Terrorist. . .yeah right. . .terrorists would rather blow up a monument with no one around rather than murder thousands visiting a monument. . .after all, the terrorists care so very much about people they don’t want to hurt anyone.

Shessh. . .


20 posted on 10/16/2013 8:06:53 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: yoe; Grampa Dave; sickoflibs; ken5050; GOPJ
The suck-up govt factotum failed to say that America-hating
Obama, and criminal WH crew, consider military-trained
vets as potential terrorists.

Years back, then-DHS Secy Napolitano revealed Obama's intentions---classifying the military as domestic terror threats.

Unbelievable, Obama hatched a plan to search the homes of military when terror threats surfaced.

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Educational materials from the Department of Defense (DOD) depict conservative organizations as “hate groups” and to be aware that “many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to make the world a better place.” The documents repeatedly cite the leftwing Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as a resource for identifying “hate groups.”

Judicial Watch obtained the DOD documents in a response to a Freedom of Information Act request (FOIA) filed on April 8, 2013. The FOIA requested “Any and all records concerning, regarding, or related to the preparation and presentation of training materials on hate groups or hate crimes distributed or used by the Air Force.”

Included in the 133 pages of lesson plans and PowerPoint slides provided by the Air Force is a January 2013 Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute “student guide” entitled “Extremism.” The document says that it is “for training purposes only” and “do not use on the job.” Highlights include:

•The document defines extremists as “a person who advocates the use of force or violence; advocates supremacist causes based on race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or national origin; or otherwise engages to illegally deprive individuals or groups of their civil rights.”

•A statement that “Nowadays, instead of dressing in sheets or publically espousing hate messages, many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to make the world a better place.”

•“[W]hile not all extremist groups are hate groups, all hate groups are extremist groups.”

•Under a section labeled “Extremist Ideologies” the document states, “In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule and the Confederate states who sought to secede from the Northern states are just two examples.”

•In this same section, the document lists the 9/11 attack under a category of “Historical events.”

•“[A]ctive participation…with regard to extremist organizations is incompatible with military service and, is therefore prohibited.” [Emphasis in original]

•The document details the “seven stages of hate” and sixteen “extremists’ traits.”

•The SPLC is listed as a resource for information on hate groups and referenced several times throughout the guide.

•Of the five organizations besides the SPLC listed as resources, one is an SPLC project (Teaching Tolerance) and one considers any politically or socially conservative movement to be a potential hate group (Political Research Associates).

•Other than a mention of 9/11 and the Sudan, there is no discussion of Islamic extremism.

21 posted on 10/16/2013 8:08:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: yoe

Congress needs a complete accounting of all costs associated with shutting down the mall/monuments. I imagine the Park Police have been working lots of overtime. DC Police have also been brought in, as have Secret Service. Then there’s the actual barricade costs...

Publish the costs of keeping it running, and shutting it down. Show that Zero is spending more to punish Americans than to keep the Government operating.

Anyone who thinks the Government should be running healthcare after this fiasco is absolutely nuts.


22 posted on 10/16/2013 8:14:38 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: yoe

uh huh right, yeah that’s the ticket


23 posted on 10/16/2013 8:15:02 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: All
We Americans reside in a superpower---a nuclear-armed nation---now lead by Obama's tight-knit, sap-happy narcissistic coterie, who were easily bamboozled.

SMART POWER STUPIDITY Remember the unceremonious departure of liar/fake Elizabeth O'Bagy from the Obama brain-trust? O'Bagy claimed anti-American savages---the anti-Christian Syrian rebels are a "moderate" "credible" alternative to Assad.

Grad student O'Bagy --- an "expert" on Syria--got fired for inflating her credentials. (she now works for John MCCain)

JUST A-N-O-T-H-E-R OBAMA SCREW-UP Obama has an aversion to truth-telling. He calculatedly seeks out people to shill for him---to tailor "expert advice" to fit his pre-determined goals. These people are all frauds, hiding partisanship as they kneel in obeisance to Obama. It is truly appalling that O'Bagy influenced policymakers that could have resulted in another bloody, costly Mideast war.

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"Smart Power" or as it is laughingly known...."Democrats winning the foreign policy objectives without firing a shot."

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Behold what "Smart Power" hath wrought: Obama's careening and incomprehensible handling of the Syrian crisis.....doing a Costa Concordia with US ntl security and foreign policy. Obama outed himself as naive, isolated....and outlandishly stupid.

Not to forget then-Secy of State Hillary's part in the "Smart Power" debacle.

Democrats' 'Smart Power' Lies in Ruins; Suddenly
Realizing What They Miscalculated About the World:
Everything

National Review | Sept 3, 2013 | Jim Geraghty / FR Posted by kristinn

....... Democrats are suddenly realizing that their foreign policy brain-trust completely misjudged the world.

Being nicer to countries like Russia will not make them nicer to you. The United Nations is not an effective tool for resolving crises. Some foreign leaders are beyond persuasion and diplomacy. There is no “international community” ready to work together to solve problems, and there probably never will be.

You can pin this on Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Susan Rice, but most of all, the buck stops with the president. Those of us who scoffed a bit at a state senator ascending to the presidency within four years on a wave of media hype and adoration are not quite so shocked by this current mess.

We never bought into this notion that getting greater cooperation from our allies, and less hostility from our enemies, was just a matter of giving this crew the wheel and letting them practice, as Hillary Clinton arrogantly declared it, “smart power” (and fronted Time magazine cover).

(These people can’t even label a foreign policy approach without reminding us of how highly they think of themselves.)

They looked out at the world at the end of the Bush years, and didn’t see tough decisions, unsolvable problems, unstable institutions, restless populations, technology enabling the impulse to destabilize existing institutions, evil men hungry for more power, and difficult trade-offs.

No, our problems and challengers were just a matter of the previous hands running U.S. foreign policy not being smart enough. (Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...

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SMART POWER IN ACTION (/SNIX) Why did Hillary and Obama use US personnel, equipment and facilities to overthrow the government of Libya? Had they ever made that a main point of their foreign policy? It’s about the money. That’s why they are fighting so hard to keep this covered up. What are all the soccer Moms and college kids going to say when they find out the Democrat leaders kill for money?

24 posted on 10/16/2013 8:16:19 AM PDT by Liz
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To: yoe

Laugh in his face.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 8:20:04 AM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: yoe

blames threat of terrorism from the White House ?


26 posted on 10/16/2013 8:22:42 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: yoe
This ass is a lying piece of communists, follow the leader King Obama, crap. The entire Federal Government is saturated with anti Constitutionalists communists filth.
27 posted on 10/16/2013 8:27:32 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: yoe

Doesn’t matter what this guys says. Nothing is going to happen to him or the Park Service. Yeah I am a defeatist on all this. Seems Congress has absolutely no power to do anything anymore, or simply won’t do anything.


28 posted on 10/16/2013 8:29:31 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Timber Rattler

Don’t forget the plastic orange cones to keep vehicles from pulling off the highway to the scenic views of Mt. Rushmore . . .


29 posted on 10/16/2013 8:29:53 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Liz

“a state senator ascending to the presidency within four years on a wave of media hype and adoration”

Don’t forget leftard desperation to elect a president who has any amount, however small, of negro ancestry.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 8:43:40 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: yoe

Ah, yes — the terrorism boogeyman. Always reliable to justify governmental power grabs.

The only terrorist here is the Obama Administration, which attempts to gain its political ends by stoking fear among the people.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 9:01:48 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

TERRORISTS?

What a lame excuse for raiding a horse endurance ride at midnight in the Talledega National Forest 2 weekends ago.

Riders & horses were there for a 3 day event. Such events on Federal land require a permit & payment for permits a minimum of 6 months in advance.

There are myriad other advance expenditures for the ride manager(s).

A pair of rides 30 mile & 55 mile swere scheduled on Friday.

Sayurday, a 25 mile, a 50 miles & a 75 mile ride were schedulaed.

Sunday, a 25 mile & a 50 mile ride were scdheduled.

The article here on FR which told about this raid didn’t clearly say if the raid happened on Friday night or Saturday night.

But—ARMED NPS rangers & ARMED U S Marshals RAIDED this base camp at MIDNIGHT, which had to have terribly frightened horses & riders. I don’t know how many entries they had total. But this is a popular ride in that region.

Everyone was told to load up & pack up & get out of the camp—immediately!!!

These riders & their horses are terrorists?

I hardly think so. Obama & his minions are lying again & over-reaching. They should be sued for the losses incurred by all involved.


32 posted on 10/16/2013 9:23:09 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: yoe

It’s quite evident that the Park Police are working more during this shutdown than when things are normal. Since the security is more than usual why are the parks closed?


33 posted on 10/16/2013 9:26:48 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: expat2
It was OK to open it to the illegals, who are more likely to hide terrorists than the veterans.

Ah, they are racists because they didn't care anything about the safety of the illegal aliens! Haters! They were just hoping the terrorists would blow up the grass and kill a bunch of Mexicans!

34 posted on 10/16/2013 10:30:32 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: yoe; LucyT
"Park Service director blames threat of terrorism for closing Mall during shutdown"

If that was the reason, then why was it open for the illegal immigrants?
35 posted on 10/16/2013 11:39:28 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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