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Senator: Deal to avoid default and open government
AP ^ | 10/16/13 | Alan Fram

Posted on 10/16/2013 8:24:39 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

Senate leaders reached agreement Wednesday to avert a threatened Treasury default and reopen the government after a partial, 16-day shutdown, according to a Republican senator who also said the House might vote first on the plan to speed its approval.

The New York Stock Exchange soared on the news that the threat of default was easing in, rising nearly 200 points by late morning.

"I understand they've come to an agreement but I'm going to let the leader announce that," Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H........

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; bho44; boehner; bohnercrying; shutdown
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To: TangledUpInBlue

And Cruz just announced he will NOT block it. In the end, he caved just like everyone else.


61 posted on 10/16/2013 9:29:06 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Democrat_media

A lot of people see that. You know how you stop that? Win elections. Until this fiasco we had a better then 50% chance on winning senate keeping house ....And that old hag Hillary is entirely beatable. To add to it all Obamacare was DOA with it’s disaster roll out so once again why is this a good strategy?


62 posted on 10/16/2013 9:29:26 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: TangledUpInBlue

DEFUND OBAMACARE!

“Sebelius: ObamaCare To Bring ‘Western Civilization To Its Knees’”

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-obama-care/101413-675081-obamacare-bringing-western-civilization-to-its-knees.htm


63 posted on 10/16/2013 9:29:42 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: stonewall_jackson215

“Wall Street appears to like the news...”

Cheap money.

Can’t wait for amnesty either. Cheap labor.

Wall Street is an enemy of the people as well.


64 posted on 10/16/2013 9:29:53 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: mrsmith

I think we could know it was going to be bad.

On the other hand, swallowing what the Senate wanted right away would have been even worse.


65 posted on 10/16/2013 9:30:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

And I guarantee you that CommieCare is fully funded and Obama’s worthless Congress is still exempt and his campaign donors are still except. CommieCare is only for those that can’t afford to buy their way out of it.


66 posted on 10/16/2013 9:31:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: SteveH

cspan ticker says cruz will not block senate vote


67 posted on 10/16/2013 9:32:54 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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What did the American people gain from this deal?

All of this and for what end?

68 posted on 10/16/2013 9:33:47 AM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010 and Mom 4-20-26 12-8-2012)
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To: Blackirish

The markets are artificially inflated right now. A sell off will bring things to normal. Obama can do what he wants and withhold SS checks, the media will blame the pubs but Dear Leader would only be affecting his own people.


69 posted on 10/16/2013 9:33:59 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: JRandomFreeper

It is noted your concern over the bill to be presented....so you think this is simply grandstanding? Even Cruz has spoken that he will not stop this now...The bill will be presented....and supposedly a vote taken today.

Do you expect something else otherwise?


70 posted on 10/16/2013 9:34:22 AM PDT by caww
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To: bigdaddy45
And Cruz just announced he will NOT block it. In the end, he caved just like everyone else. He did NOT cave. He won't block it because he can't -- if the House takes up the Senate bill first, the Senate can just pass it by simple majority. At best, he could delay it by a day or so. That would just be an a-hole move, and he realizes it. Ted ain't dead.
71 posted on 10/16/2013 9:34:34 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: NKP_Vet

I’m quite philosophical about this. Even if the GOP blinked, there was still a big stink. People knew there was a clash going on. Now they are seeing the sticker shock and technical incompetence too. Something is poised to gel in the dazed US mind, perhaps. It won’t be paradise on earth, but the pendulum will move. The fact it doesn’t keep moving to the good is our fault. We get lazy when we think things are nice enough on earth, forgetting that there is a heaven to forge on towards.


72 posted on 10/16/2013 9:34:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: bigdaddy45

wouldn’t a cruz block be symbolic at this point? everything seems really up to the house, not the senate.


73 posted on 10/16/2013 9:34:48 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: grania

When we list traitors to campaign promises, this woman is the worst. She seems to have no compass whatsover as to values.


Has Sarah P commented on her lately.

I would assume she is feeling betrayed as she backed her as a conservative, and she’s nothing more than a turncoat


74 posted on 10/16/2013 9:34:56 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: SteveH
cspan ticker says cruz will not block senate vote

Another 24-hour filibuster would accomplish just that, a 24-hour delay. Plus, the media would saddle Cruz with having caused a technical default.

75 posted on 10/16/2013 9:35:03 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: novemberslady
Seems some folks here are willing to hold their breaths until Nancy Pelosi is speaker.

I'm starting to believe it wouldn't make that much of a difference. Plus she has balls.


Ironically, it would actually be better. True opposition has to be unified, and consistent, in order to be effective. What non-conservative Republicans do is that they make effective opposition impossible.

It reminds me of a baseball story (I know it was in a Boswell book, but I don't remember the players involved). A fan was despondent over the team's performance, and was going through the various players' roles. When it came to the 3rd basemen, the fan stated that he wasn't a problem (he was a good fielder, and mediocre hitter). In one sense, the fan was correct. But Boswell disagreed with him vehemently. The problem was that he was just good enough that nobody wanted to replace him, but that he wasn't good enough to make a difference. Even though he was one of the better players on the team, he actually was the underlying problem. Every year, they put him out there, not accepting that at certain positions (3rd base being one of them), just being good enough isn't acceptable, if your goal is to actually be successful.

Boswell correctly came to the conclusion that the team would have been better off with a scrub at 3rd base. I have come to the similar conclusion that we might actually be better off with Pelosi as speaker (with the one, huge, caveat that this would only be true if the establishment Republicans were defeated, either in the primaries or the general).
76 posted on 10/16/2013 9:35:32 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: caww
Is there a bill? And do you have a link to Cruz saying he won't block it?

/johnny

77 posted on 10/16/2013 9:35:39 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SteveH
Say that again.

cruz will not block senate vote

Again.

cruz will not block senate vote

Again.

cruz will not block senate vote

78 posted on 10/16/2013 9:36:13 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: King of Florida

Ted ain’t dead.


Far from it. He has emerged as a shining light for the future from this
kabuki theater called government


79 posted on 10/16/2013 9:36:25 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Kennard

It would still be worth it, possibly, but we don’t know all the wheeling and dealing either.


80 posted on 10/16/2013 9:36:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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