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Senator: Deal to avoid default and open government
AP ^ | 10/16/13 | Alan Fram

Posted on 10/16/2013 8:24:39 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

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As if anyone ever thought they wouldn't come to a "deal"... What a dog and pony show.

And nice job Kelly. I'm not going to announce anything, but we have a deal. ... Ooops, did I just say that??

1 posted on 10/16/2013 8:24:39 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue

deal done and tomorrow Obama goes on a speech tour pushing immigration


2 posted on 10/16/2013 8:27:33 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

SELLOUTS


3 posted on 10/16/2013 8:27:48 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

There is no danger of default. More than enough money comes in to make payments. It a boogey-man issue.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 8:29:10 AM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Deal to avoid default in place

Haven't we heard that before? Deja Vu?

If true, Boehner bent over and became another one of Bathhouse Barry's "boys", and the American taxpayers did as well. Reggie Love is green with jealousy!

5 posted on 10/16/2013 8:29:57 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Show me a bill number in either chamber. I haven't found one.

There has to be a vote on something before they can cave.

/johnny

6 posted on 10/16/2013 8:31:12 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

There can be no default unless Obama chooses to do so. And if he did, it would be an impeachable offense.


7 posted on 10/16/2013 8:35:14 AM PDT by kabar
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To: JRandomFreeper

They want it to be a surprise.


8 posted on 10/16/2013 8:36:49 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Leader? What leader?


9 posted on 10/16/2013 8:37:36 AM PDT by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: TangledUpInBlue
But that emerging Senate pact was put on hold Tuesday, an extraordinary day that highlighted how unruly rank-and-file House Republicans can be, even when the stakes are high.

Great unbiased reporting AP.

10 posted on 10/16/2013 8:38:08 AM PDT by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks - literally or metaphorically, you decide.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
It doesn't work like that. They do have to follow their own rules to make it look legitimate.

/johnny

11 posted on 10/16/2013 8:38:18 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Like anything else, “O” will make the announcement ( it there is one ) at a time and in a way that is the MOST benefit to HIM...

You thought it would be different?


12 posted on 10/16/2013 8:39:26 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Ayotte should be a one term senator. She has the IQ of an amoeba!


13 posted on 10/16/2013 8:43:37 AM PDT by vette6387 (i)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

there never was a RISK OF DEFAULT. the media has been lying just trying to get the Republicans to cave

the media and Obama have been lying about that not raising the debt limit will result in default

there is NO RISK OF DEFAULT.

keep the gov shut down and do NOT raise the debt ceiling. call R’s tell them to hold the line

the media has been lying saying Armageddon will happen Oct 17 if the debt limit is not raised. that is a big lie. the media lied. Obama lied. Reid lied.

we have to call and email Republicans and tell them not to believe the media lies. what is the capital switchboard or their emails or phone numbers?


14 posted on 10/16/2013 8:49:38 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Correct. My problem with that is they’ve shown a willingness to change the rules as they go along, and that is what I’m looking for in this little game they’re playing with our freedom.

We must not give up, or roll over. Boehner needs to be made to understand that if he screws the Tea Party, he’s out of the Speaker’s job.


15 posted on 10/16/2013 8:49:49 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
As the rules stand now, a bill has to be submitted, go through the rules committee, and in the Senate, get either unanimous consent or cloture. We're a long procedural process away from there being a bill for anyone to cave on.

There will be plenty of time for whining when something actually happens, but a lot can happen in the meantime.

/johnny

16 posted on 10/16/2013 8:53:11 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Ray76

Thank you. There is not now nor has there ever been any chance the US would default on its debt.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 8:55:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: vette6387

I had high hopes for Ayotte after Gov Palin endorsed her. Clearly she has gone over to the wrong (dark) side, becoming the 3rd of the let’s get along trio with McLame and Gramnesty. I’m very disappointed in her.


18 posted on 10/16/2013 8:56:34 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Bills can be brought directly to the floor, where the Rules Committee can be bypassed with a 2/3 vote of the Committee of the Whole (all of the House). That’s the key vote that needs to be targeted.

At least one bill went that route a couple of weeks ago to reopen the parks, but it did not pass the required 2/3 vote. Eventually it did pass, IIRC, but it had to go through the process you described. If the Rats vote en mass to pass this, will they get enough GOPe to pass the 2/3 mark? We’ll see.


19 posted on 10/16/2013 8:57:54 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: vette6387
She (Ayotte) has the IQ of an amoeba

An insult to amoebas everywhere.

When we list traitors to campaign promises, this woman is the worst. She seems to have no compass whatsover as to values.

20 posted on 10/16/2013 8:59:03 AM PDT by grania
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Wall Street appears to like the news...


21 posted on 10/16/2013 8:59:27 AM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: JRandomFreeper

House conservatives are speaking to the press now:

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Politics

Labrador: I’m proud of speaker Boehner, but angry at house republicans who want to kick fight down the road.

Jim Jordan: there’s absolutely “no talk” about replacing John Boehner as speaker.


22 posted on 10/16/2013 8:59:27 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Show me a bill number in either chamber. I haven’t found one.”

The announcement is scheduled for noon. You’ll get your number.


23 posted on 10/16/2013 8:59:27 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: Democrat_media

Yeah great idea...keep it up with Pickets charge. So the markets sell off and Obama turns off SS checks. And the
public fanned by the media turns on repubs of all stripes with a vengance.....then what’s the plan?


24 posted on 10/16/2013 9:00:14 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: molson209
deal done and tomorrow Obama goes on a speech tour pushing immigration





NEXT: Obama vows immigration push...




MERCY!

25 posted on 10/16/2013 9:00:24 AM PDT by thouworm (Harry Reid: 'We Support the Federal government. That's Our Job. That's What We Do.')
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To: grania

“When we list traitors to campaign promises, this woman is the worst. She seems to have no compass whatsover as to values.”

She joined the “go along to get along” crowd immediately. The good folks of NH need to get a primary candidate ready. Now is not too soon. Just look how long the “evil twins” from Maine have lasted (one is still stinking up the Senate). Every time Collins speaks, I get the distinct impression that she’s just been let out of the rest home for the day.


26 posted on 10/16/2013 9:02:50 AM PDT by vette6387 (i)
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To: GIdget2004
Welcome to FR.

It ain't over until it's over.

/johnny

27 posted on 10/16/2013 9:03:45 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Blackirish
The plan is to keep disrupting business as usual, and getting in the way of the liberals in both parties.

/johnny

28 posted on 10/16/2013 9:04:53 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Blackirish
the media creates this false reality

even most on this site believes there is actually a crisis

how can we win if we don't realize the media lies

there is no rissk of default. there is no crisis. just as nothing happened when the stupid govv shut down nothing would happen if the stupid debt ceiling is not raised . how many times will the media be believed? nothing happened after the gov shut down even with the media screaming Armageddon then. and people still believe the media

29 posted on 10/16/2013 9:05:05 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: stonewall_jackson215

Yes, the only good part about it all.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 9:05:11 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

The “deal” is they increase the debt and spend your children’s money and grandchildren’s money for “benefits” for voters to vote for them. Generational robbery, practiced by both “parties”.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 9:05:37 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: thouworm

Obama hopes to create another crisis with immigration to deflect from Obamacare failures. I hope we don’t bite the bait. Focus needs to continue to be the epic failures of Obamacare. He doesn’t have the votes to pass amnesty right now I don’t think. It is just a shell game.


32 posted on 10/16/2013 9:07:54 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: stonewall_jackson215

Wall Street loved subprime fraudulent debt, too.

Wall Street is about making money today and don’t think about the future.


33 posted on 10/16/2013 9:08:30 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: TangledUpInBlue

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

Statements by Reid and McConnell expected soon.
(Meanwhile they’;re running tweets from congresscritters.)


34 posted on 10/16/2013 9:10:38 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
House intends to vote before Senate which will limit the procedures and get whatever the bill is to Obama.
35 posted on 10/16/2013 9:10:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: TangledUpInBlue
It probably would be better, in this case, to delay resolution if only for a few weeks so that the complete and utter failure of the ObamaCare exchanges can be the news story of the week. The GOP congressional leadership are terrible strategists.
36 posted on 10/16/2013 9:11:43 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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Vote on what bill? They still have procedures to get that far.

/johnny

37 posted on 10/16/2013 9:11:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: kabar
There can be no default unless Obama chooses to do so. And if he did, it would be an impeachable offense.

Why are so few GOP "leaders" shouting this from the rooftops?

38 posted on 10/16/2013 9:13:35 AM PDT by CDB (Democrats = PSCUM (the Party of Scandals, Cover-Ups, Un-Accountability, and Monster Government)
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To: Ray76

“There is no danger of default. More than enough money comes in to make payments. It a boogey-man issue.”

yes . the media has been lying

but many on this site and Republicans also believe the media and so believe there is a crisis

The USA is a news media dictatorship, .the media are socialist monsters and they rule with an iron fist


39 posted on 10/16/2013 9:14:18 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Short - under 2 min.
Glenn Beck Explains The Debt Ceiling Showdown Using “The Deer Hunter”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaRnc6GGDlk


40 posted on 10/16/2013 9:15:10 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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Obama and Reid lied...Boehner cried.


41 posted on 10/16/2013 9:17:48 AM PDT by CDB (Democrats = PSCUM (the Party of Scandals, Cover-Ups, Un-Accountability, and Monster Government)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Is there a more obnoxious publicity hound than Ayotte? (Perhaps Peter King comes close.) She was on MSNBC this morning with Murkowski and Collins, carrying water for Harry Reid. Birds of a feather.....


42 posted on 10/16/2013 9:17:59 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Democrat_media

What you don’t think the markets will sell off? That investors might lighten up dollar holdings? That Obama will shut off SS checks for seniors and the media will blame the tea party for starving old people to death? That won’t happen? Seems some folks here are willing to hold their breaths until Nancy Pelosi is speaker. This is the plan now?


43 posted on 10/16/2013 9:19:58 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: JRandomFreeper

When the bill is announced it will then go to the house for a vote...limited procedures because it’s been agreed if the house votes first time will be saved.


44 posted on 10/16/2013 9:21:15 AM PDT by caww
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To: stonewall_jackson215
Wall Street appears to like the news...

Because they knew before everyone else did.
45 posted on 10/16/2013 9:21:35 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Strategy that leadership leaned on to get where we are today:


46 posted on 10/16/2013 9:22:00 AM PDT by tnvol01 ("...answering that question w/ specificity uh, you know, is, is, uh above my pay grade.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

“Boehner needs to be made to understand that if he screws the Tea Party, he’s out of the Speaker’s job.”

No he isn’t. He will win in his district and he will remain speaker in the House with the consent of the tea party members in the House. Want to bet?


47 posted on 10/16/2013 9:23:16 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: txrefugee
none of these morons see that growing government is ruining the economy(economy is just running on massive growing debt any idiot knows THIS is what will cause collapse. this is the apposite of the media lies who say we must raise the debt ceiling

none of these morons see that growing government is also taking away our freedoms. the democrats and other idiots are happy to be slaves of the government . they trust and love government and don't see it's just running on debt

48 posted on 10/16/2013 9:23:21 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: CDB

<....”Obama and Reid lied...Boehner cried”.....>

We can name this tune in one note....is this just another extention?....It sounds that way.


49 posted on 10/16/2013 9:23:32 AM PDT by caww
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Which bill? Got a bill number? Or are they not that far yet?

/johnny

50 posted on 10/16/2013 9:23:36 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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