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Senator: Deal to avoid default and open government
AP ^ | 10/16/13 | Alan Fram

Posted on 10/16/2013 8:24:39 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

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To: jjsheridan5

<.....”I think they will go for single provider, with forced compliance”......>

The Mainline Insurance companies purposely opted out of the exchange.

.... They know this will fall on itself and will be standing by when this beast falls on itself, to swoop any people into their plans. All others will be “rescued” by the Gov. as Provider established by Government to “help” (welfare).....back to square one but we will pay for them under the gov. plans established then....either or we will pay.


151 posted on 10/16/2013 10:33:15 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
That wasn’t voted on...no was the word at that time.

Yeah, so what if anything is changed? If time is of the essence as they claim, why are they all dragging their feet?

Windbag Sanders now taling about the "obscene unfair distribution of wealth" 99% of wealth went to the top 1%... Sanders getting 2 more minutes on top of 10 minutes (gets it of course... argh)

152 posted on 10/16/2013 10:33:19 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Sen Alouette (R-NH) on senate floor now.

Voice sounding very nervous.


153 posted on 10/16/2013 10:36:04 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: ASouthernGrl

because journalism has to be fair and biased? in what world?


154 posted on 10/16/2013 10:39:07 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: SteveH

Red Hampshire is the appendix of the United States...


155 posted on 10/16/2013 10:39:10 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SteveH

Well we’ve been here before...the vote hasn’t happened and sounds like they’re still debating what the bill is going to be....sheesh...

All these talking in the Senate etc. is just posturing...you cannot believe what they say as it’s done for just that as they play to their bases.

Interesting day..

Keep in mind Obama met with LEw and Biden earlier today in a closed session. Obma has yet to work across party lines and it’s paying off for him thus far in his signiture Obamacare.


156 posted on 10/16/2013 10:39:42 AM PDT by caww
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To: SteveH

Alouette-> Ayotte

yielded(?) her time to Sen. Shaheen (D-NH) who already had her 10 minutes.

Why are these people taking all this time instead of just shutting up and sitting down and passing the bill?

IMHO if these people are not in a hurry, there is no real crisis, and the House should get as much time as it needs to debate whatever details (yet to be revealed?) are in the bill, if they are in no hurry.


157 posted on 10/16/2013 10:40:01 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

As I understand it there are 14 people working this bill...which isn’t on the floor as yet...only that it will be there....which remains to be seen.

Interesting Reid said it would presented around noon...the fact it isn’t makes one wonder what’s actually going on....behind closed doors??????


159 posted on 10/16/2013 10:43:35 AM PDT by caww
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160 posted on 10/16/2013 10:46:32 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: caww
Well we’ve been here before...the vote hasn’t happened and sounds like they’re still debating what the bill is going to be....sheesh...

they are not debating what is in the bill, they are congratulating each other for coming to some kind of agreement, the details of which are not even yet clear, at least to me.

This seems like more kabuki tailored to put a time squeeze on the House and let the MSM cut them up if they don't toe the senate line, as I can well imagine that they will.

Sanctimonious self serving hypocrites.

Ayotte on again now, lamenting the effects of the shutdown, saying her own pre-teen kids are asking her why it happened and regretting the shutdown strategy. What is she regretting sounds like the Republican strategy. Sheesh, she is using her time to diss her fellow Republicans! for the children! what a hypocrite!

Will cruz get a chance to speak to the senate floor?

Nelson (D-FL) now on, speaking as if it is a done deal, and now apparently dissing the House Republicans in everything but name.

161 posted on 10/16/2013 10:46:53 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Nelson

“Narrow small group of political extremists ... ideology” (take control of the House, blah blah

these guys are not even bothering to make concise sentences.

making reference to a joint Senate-House committee to meet later today.


162 posted on 10/16/2013 10:48:54 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

now referring to something called “the grand bargain”


163 posted on 10/16/2013 10:49:25 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Nelson now recognizing need for consensus given the lack of same in the past few weeks, and the next hurdle being Jan. 15.

imho does not sound like there is any firm agreement with the House yet...


164 posted on 10/16/2013 10:51:49 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Sens. Cruz, Lee say they won't block deal
The Hill ^
"The deal...would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt-ceiling until February."

Heh, heh. Rumors of exaggeration started by crusty, old political chicks are cute.


165 posted on 10/16/2013 10:54:47 AM PDT by familyop
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To: SteveH

-So we have a Group of 14 that were meeting.

-We have Lew’s meeting today with Obama and Biden.

-We have reference to a joint Senate-House committee meeting later.

Important to watch what they do not what they say.

So the question remains......what do they actually have to vote on?


166 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:07 AM PDT by caww
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To: SteveH

Ok I gotta go see what’s up on social media....the news doesn’t seem to have anything concrete yet....just playing posturing politicians.


167 posted on 10/16/2013 10:57:43 AM PDT by caww
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Okay, folks! Let’s all cash in!

And do NOT vote for the republican party. There’s no use. It’s just there for show.

Finally, to make matters as good for you as possible, don’t talk bad about the dictator.


168 posted on 10/16/2013 11:09:28 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: SteveH

169 posted on 10/16/2013 11:12:07 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Sen Durbin (D-IL) now speaking 3 minutes past his time limit, talking about the need for better education (more funded education?) etc.

IMHO sounding like a campaign speech. why are campaign speeches allowed on the senate floor today if this is the last day before a us government default? i am getting big time cognitive dissonance...


170 posted on 10/16/2013 11:17:12 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH
Cruz speaks with Media about an hour or so ago earlier today....He was asked if he would filibuster this...he responded.."Next Question"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lroOymLR00

171 posted on 10/16/2013 11:20:42 AM PDT by caww
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To: SteveH

As mentioned...they are simply filling the void now and all about political posturing to their bases.....blah blah blah....on and on and on.


172 posted on 10/16/2013 11:22:02 AM PDT by caww
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To: jjsheridan5

No force?

Um, an encounter with the living loving Lord, if accepted, would be quite the force. And to Democrats as well.


173 posted on 10/16/2013 11:23:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: SteveH
Our nation is in serious trouble...


174 posted on 10/16/2013 11:26:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Invest in liberal unicorns.
The unicorns will poop out golden skittles.
Debt problem solved.

Well, except that this won’t work.

Anti-Christ (fake Christ) is term that comes to mind.


175 posted on 10/16/2013 11:28:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: caww
Threatening e-mail from Obamacare.....


176 posted on 10/16/2013 11:29:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Praise Allah! Our impending doom has been delayed!

extreme sarcasm

177 posted on 10/16/2013 11:33:19 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: SteveH

Sen Cruz now holding press conference answering the usual questions mostly in the usual manner.

Speaking about how the effort to block obamacare was not in vain (as reporter’s question involving angering other senators implied), that millions of americans are now discovering the problems associated with obamacare, seeing their premiums rise on the obamacare website, and experiencing associated job loss or weekly hour reduction, etc.

suddenly concluded the conference.


178 posted on 10/16/2013 11:44:30 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Senate just sitting there now, no one addressing floor, CSPAN playing classical music...

if there is some urgency, why is the senate not voting on their CR to raise the debt limit ASAP (now)???


179 posted on 10/16/2013 11:47:56 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: kabar

When has that ever stopped him?


180 posted on 10/16/2013 12:16:58 PM PDT by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

181 posted on 10/16/2013 12:19:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Our plan is to take your money AND your freedom.

You can thank us now. :D

(Thanks for voting for me dumbasses.) HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
182 posted on 10/16/2013 1:13:30 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Boener is in the process of rolling over for this. But the conservatives in the House can still fight...and should.

The GOP conservative should rebel in the House against Boehner and vote him out as the Speaker and replace him with a conservative Speaker willing to do battle and take Obama to the mat.

In fact the GOP should take the following line in talking to Obama.

"Look, Barry, we have the votes to stop you cold, and we have decided to use those votes.

"We control government funduing and we are going to exercise that control.

"We are talking about a complete shutdown where not so much as a dime will be available for you to even heat the White House, so get ready to stay at the local Holiday Inn on your own dime for the duration. Also, tell Michelle she can send her 100+ assistants home to, and weed her own garden.

"The only thing we will fund during that time is the US military you hate so much.

"When you are ready to talk about seriously creating a budget...one that is balanced, one that really reduces the debt...and we are talking about a true reduction in the actual amount we owe, not just a reduction in the percentage of your spending increases...and a budget we that puts an end to ObamCare. When you are ready to seriously talk to us about those things...get back with us.

"Oh, BTW, Barry. One other thing we will fund is the following. The House of Reprentatives will meet each day with the express purpose of impeaching your sorry backside each day for the next 60 working days. Impeach you each day on a different charge. 60 impeachments, Barry. When you get ready to talk to us, then the first thing the Senate will have to take up is those 60 impeachments. Think about that while you are waiting, and watching.

"So, we have the votes, and we are firm. Give us a call when you are ready to talk. Bye now."
That's the discussion a real Speaker of the House should be having with Obama.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

183 posted on 10/16/2013 1:19:38 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: SteveH

Boxer is speaking on the Senate floor now

“We are always going to have disagreements...”

Sheesh, if there is a crisis in a few hours, why is the Senate wasting time and not voting right now?


184 posted on 10/16/2013 2:22:47 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Both put up a good fight. Ah ha ha ha that’s a good one.


185 posted on 10/16/2013 2:23:30 PM PDT by Leep (Peak oil? We have reached peak debt!)
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186 posted on 10/16/2013 3:32:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: SteveH

cspan2 now reporting a senate vote imminent (nothing evidently happening on the senate floor which is being broadcast right now), and that house support for the bill is likely but hastert rule likely to be violated according to politico.


187 posted on 10/16/2013 3:40:38 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

CSPAN2 commentator saying sources say Boehner urged passage of the senate bill with Republicans today and got a standing ovation from Republicans...

on the senate floor murchowsky speaking for a while urging passage of the senate bill, now Chambliss (R-GA) speaking about some al quida terrorist considerations... might never have an opportunity to interrogate the terrorist...


188 posted on 10/16/2013 3:47:21 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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189 posted on 10/16/2013 4:07:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SteveH

Sen Cruz just concluded brief remarks on the Senate floor. His usual speech, emphasizing lack of support of American workers by Senate Republicans.

Now Sen Schumer (D-NY).


190 posted on 10/16/2013 4:07:11 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Has anyone seen a bill?


191 posted on 10/16/2013 4:36:49 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Cyber Liberty

“I think he has a good chance of being thrown out of the Speakership, but I’d never make book on it.”

And it’s a good thing you didn’t. The whole Pub caucus is singing his praises tonite. All of them.


192 posted on 10/16/2013 8:55:02 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47

When you look at Boehner’s likely replacements, it’s just as well. Kicking Boehner out would give us Speaker Cantor. Whoopdeedoo. They haven’t learned carp. Let the whole lot of them sink in one great big boat.


193 posted on 10/16/2013 9:00:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

They do realize that the only way to avoid default is to Replace Obama and his Secretary Lew?

“Each month the government collects $250 billion in taxes, and if the Congress decided not to raise the debt ceiling, Secretary Lew would have adequate resources to pay the $23 billion in interest to the public.”

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/16/obamas-victory-on-debt-ceiling-comes-at-terrible-price/?intcmp=trending

Basically that means Obama could decide at any moment to just not pay the interest on the debt, the same now as he did before. There is more than 10 times more revenue than is needed to pay such interest payments so its entirely up to Obama.

That being said I would not shed a tear should they decide not to and our Federal government’s credit rating go down to zero. The ability to run up cheap debt is a MAJOR liability in a democracy, as it quite obviously enables politicians to spend future generation’s money to buy the current generation’s vote, while avoiding the consequences of theses expenditures.


194 posted on 10/16/2013 9:49:26 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: molson209
Obama goes on a speech tour pushing immigration.

The government REALLY needs taxpayers now. Amnesty will be a done deal. They have to integrate EVERYONE into the taxpaying system.

195 posted on 10/17/2013 4:19:26 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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