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Will Boehner break the “Hastert Rule” today? The Hastert Rule explained
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 10/16/13 | Lynn Sweet

Posted on 10/16/2013 9:40:56 AM PDT by jimbo123

In a 2003 speech, then Speaker Denny Hastert (R-Ill.) discussed his House management guidelines that became known as “The Hastert Rule.” The rule calls for a leader not to send legislation to the House floor for a vote unless it has the support of the majority of the majority. On Wednesday, with just hours left to raise the debt ceiling or risk default, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio)–who has been holding fast to the Hastert Rule–has to decide whether to break it.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; amnesty; amnesty4illegals; bho44; boehner; hastertrule; nomorerinos; obamacare; primarytherinos; shutdown; surrender

1 posted on 10/16/2013 9:40:56 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

No longer matters.

Why waste the bandwidth?

Just be glad we’re armed, ‘cuz we’re gonna need it when the crash comes.


2 posted on 10/16/2013 9:42:38 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: jimbo123

Is there really any doubt?


3 posted on 10/16/2013 9:43:16 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: jimbo123

Without thinking twice!


4 posted on 10/16/2013 9:44:00 AM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010 and Mom 4-20-26 12-8-2012)
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To: jimbo123

Whatever it takes to kick the can, again. This who thing is just a temporary deal; it will play out again. Theater of the absurd.


5 posted on 10/16/2013 9:45:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: jimbo123

I’ll bet he couldn’t wait to fold like a cheap suit! Whiny-boy.


6 posted on 10/16/2013 9:45:29 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jimbo123

The GOP is useless since it has so few conservatives. Most of this party is made up of liberals who we call RINOs. America is finished since their is no real opposition to the communists takeover. Bonehead has no guts and that is expected since the party is finished.


7 posted on 10/16/2013 9:46:22 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: jimbo123
...just hours left to raise the debt ceiling or risk default...

STOP IT WITH THIS LIE!
8 posted on 10/16/2013 9:46:28 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Da Coyote

The Great American Spendathon continues. And yes, a crash is coming.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 9:46:28 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Da Coyote

Why do you say it no longer matters? Has Boehner broken the Hastert Rule yet?

If he is going to do it, then the republican caucus can hold a meeting before the vote comes to the floor, and they can vote in a new Speaker. I think Boehner knows this.

So this just may be Chicago Sun Times joining with all the other bought and paid for liberal media engaging in wishful thinking.


10 posted on 10/16/2013 9:48:22 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: jimbo123

He will break it.

There should be a walk out of conservatives and a call for a vote of no confidence (I don’t know if they can do that in the House, if it is a parliamentary thing or what.)

I would rather see Pelosi as Speaker. At least we would know where we stand.

[Not really. I am using an extreme point to make my argument.]


11 posted on 10/16/2013 9:48:45 AM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: Sopater

Banking is a funny thing when it comes to the nation’s debt. When a pause happens to consider getting the fiscal house in order, there is the downgrade threat, but keep spending like drunken sailors (no offense to drunken sailors) and everything is ok. I just don’t understand it.


12 posted on 10/16/2013 9:49:42 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Starboard
Agreed a crash is coming. The question is when? Does the dow see 17k first? 18K? Is the crash in two years? Is the crash in 5 years? Or 6 months.... We have to understand the reality and make a plan to be successful. Reality??? The bible says it's gonna all crash down. We know it is. We have to come up with the right exit strategy, and the right strategy to be successful in a post democratic (socialist) world that is coming.

I'm not saying we give up. We still vote on principle. We still campaign for "right".... in hopes of delaying what we know is the inevitable.

13 posted on 10/16/2013 9:50:36 AM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: jimbo123
Boner is an EMBARRESMENT ! .. and needs to be replaced !
All House legislation submitted to the Senate has been "pocket vetoed" by Dingey Harry Reid ,
as it has been "DEEMED " unacceptable by Harry.
Even Harry Reid has not been villianized by McLame and the other rHINOS (elite ),.. so much for the Senate being a place of " Debate " .
It is time to take names , and Boehner is at the top of the list to be replaced !
14 posted on 10/16/2013 9:51:41 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: jimbo123

As I’ve said many times before, the Hastert rule was designed to silence conservatives. When Hastert was speaker, the majority of the majority were still old-guard, establishment repulicans. So they were able to say “sorry little Jimmy Conservative, your proposal doesn’t have majority support so we’re not going to take that up”

But in 2006, some thirty republicans either retired or were defeated, and another thirty in 2008. Then these were replaced with conservatives in 2010.

So the majority of the majority is now conservative, so naturally the Hastert rule has been out the window for the goal is always to thwart conservatives and conservatism.


15 posted on 10/16/2013 9:51:51 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: jimbo123

16 posted on 10/16/2013 9:52:41 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: jimbo123
The "Hasert Rule " is designed for expediancy ,
not for rational debate or discussion .

17 posted on 10/16/2013 9:54:18 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: jimbo123
I'm So freakin pissed Its unreal!!! And don't tell me to wait until election time....BULLCRAP! This country is so fked because there r no more men of honor or balls ...it used to be that men would die for their children's future... I guess that in the past. There are no men left to lead the charge for the sake of country or family. If we did there would be such an outcry in the land we would gather up pitchforks and March straight to Washington and surround the White House and kick them ALL out of our house! They won again!!!!!! Words leave me..
18 posted on 10/16/2013 9:54:22 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: DonaldC
Its not difficult to understand. Morgan Chase and the like are up 30% this year. Banks like us printing money. We give it to them so they can loan it out etc.

I had a little bit of money in a Detroit Municipal Bond. It was insured. Like 5k worth. Broker calls a few months back and says "you need to get out of this". I said... "its insured". He says "yeah... well the company that has it insured has a lower credit rating than the city of Detroit".

How does that happen? We have to understand the game, the reality, where this country is going... and formulate a plant to be successful in the new paradigm.

19 posted on 10/16/2013 9:54:28 AM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: jimbo123

Of course he will. Hastert Rule is forever dead. As is the GOP.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 9:58:24 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RoseofTexas
Words leave me..

You're not the only one, sweetheart. I'm incredibly mad. The times of inaction have grown long in the tooth. It's time for men of action to stand up and do something. This is tyranny on a scale America's never seen on her own shores.

Our House of Representatives, the truest form of representation in our government, is about to capitulate to the rule of a minority of tyrants over a faux issue of America's creditworthiness. This is an issue of lies and calculated fakery to make an issue seem worse than it really is.

What I'd like to see is a reasoned response from the Tea Party Republicans on the national media with a solid plan of action that is commonsense; as Dave Ramsey says (paraphrasing), "Advice your grandmother would give you."

Explain that the "debt limit" is exactly that, it's a limit. It means the government can't borrow any more money. It means we have to live within our means. It means the credit cards are shut off, and we're denied funds from our own internal bank. I REALLY do NOT see a problem with this.

The United States' GDP is sufficient to pay our debts and keep the government running on a "required services" basis.

People going to lose their cushy government jobs? You betcha!

Entitlements going to be shut off or pared back? Oh yeah!

Market going to tank? Like a lead balloon! BUT, the nice this about this is that we'll finally understand where the REAL value of our market sits. The government is freaking out about the debt limit because it means they can't artificially inflate the markets. It means that markets are going to collapse like a balloon without lips attached to the spigot. Personally, I see that as a good thing, and I have a 401(k) that will be slammed.

This sets up the Republicans, more specifically conservatives, to actually sit down with the American people, their constituents, and force everyone to have an open, honest discussion about our country and her finances. It's going to be a discussion like a mother and father have with their preadolescent child to tell them that the family pet was hit by a car and is not going to survive. There will be crying as we watch it slip away. It will be difficult, but in the end, ya know what? There's a framework in place, a set of ideas ensconced in our Constitution that could mean a resurgence of America as more than just a political entity but a powerhouse.

This conversation needs to happen, and I applaud the Tea Party caucus for holding a knife to the throat of the Marxists in Washington. It's time for the REAL adults to talk. Grandma's on life support, and she won't survive without it. There's no sense in keeping her alive forever, there's no quality of life that way. Let her slip away, and build our lives together in the image our Founders left us.

21 posted on 10/16/2013 9:58:56 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: kjam22
...we have to come up with the right exit strategy...

Here's the thing. If everything that happens is predictable, the feds can pretty much control the economy enough to avoid a collapse and chaos. With the housing market, the unintended event was a lot of people decided it wasn't worth paying a mortgage and a lot of would-be buyers decided it was a dumb investment for them.

Something that can't be absorbed and planned for will cause the collapse. If the feds keep maniupulating the US to poverty, it might be that if Obamacare takes hold it'll drain local economies because there will be so little expendable income left. Or it might be something like radiation from Japan in the ocean, or who knows what.

The best way for freepers to prepare now is to be real aware of what's going on. Most freepers are ready if we see it coming ahead of most of the population.

22 posted on 10/16/2013 10:00:08 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

” if Obamacare takes hold it’ll drain local economies because there will be so little expendable income left.”

This is a very real possibility...imho


23 posted on 10/16/2013 10:03:19 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Da Coyote

Voting 3rd party is STUPID beyond belief in the face of a Bolshevik administration.


24 posted on 10/16/2013 10:05:35 AM PDT by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines, Vietnam, class of 68)
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To: jimbo123

Would Hastert have broken the Hastert Rule today? Probably.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 10:05:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: grania
I agree with your statement. You know... I don't view a primary residence as an investment. I know it has the opportunity to go up and down in value etc. But, an investment is something that you are ready and willing to liquidate when the market dictates. A primary residence doesn't really fit in that category for me... and really not for most people.

Buyers/Investors who didn't think buying property after the housing market crashed know nothing about investing. Just my humble opinion.

26 posted on 10/16/2013 10:10:42 AM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: jimbo123

When it all comes crashing down, those who caused it must not be allowed to flee the country.


27 posted on 10/16/2013 10:18:31 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: jimbo123

Didn’t he already break it once?


28 posted on 10/16/2013 10:22:26 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: alphadog

How can you vote 3rd party when the two current parties are one in the same?

There is no opposition party. It would be nice if we had one, but the Republican party ain’t it.

I live in KY, I have voted for that sleaze bag McConnell since 1984. No more. Sure a democrat might win that seat and the difference would be???????????????????????????????


29 posted on 10/16/2013 10:27:21 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: DonaldC

When I inform people (liberals) that failure to raise the debt ceiling will NOT cause the US to default, they just say “you obviously don’t understand gov’t economics”. To which I reply “if by gov’t economics, you mean that gov’t needs to borrow more money in order to make the minimum required payments on our existing debts, you’re right, I don’t understand that.” To which they triumphantly laugh and smile thinking that they’ve actually won that argument.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 10:29:33 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: DonaldC

Yes it will drain everything, but who’s name is on it: OBAMA. Who pushed this thru and made us choke it down: OBAMA. The only name of any of this is: OBAMA....I hope people that voted for him are soooo proud, they should be out in the streets yelling and screaming how great he is!!! (Gag, Gag, Gag) Just remember: His name is on this joke of a government!


31 posted on 10/16/2013 11:16:27 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: jimbo123

Well of course Tammy Faye will break the Hastert rule. Otherwise he won’t be able to capitulate to the Dems. He just wants to take his whoopin and head for happy hour.


32 posted on 10/16/2013 11:26:51 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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