Skip to comments.Will Boehner break the “Hastert Rule” today? The Hastert Rule explained
Posted on 10/16/2013 9:40:56 AM PDT by jimbo123
In a 2003 speech, then Speaker Denny Hastert (R-Ill.) discussed his House management guidelines that became known as The Hastert Rule. The rule calls for a leader not to send legislation to the House floor for a vote unless it has the support of the majority of the majority. On Wednesday, with just hours left to raise the debt ceiling or risk default, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio)who has been holding fast to the Hastert Rulehas to decide whether to break it.
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No longer matters.
Why waste the bandwidth?
Just be glad we’re armed, ‘cuz we’re gonna need it when the crash comes.
Is there really any doubt?
Without thinking twice!
Whatever it takes to kick the can, again. This who thing is just a temporary deal; it will play out again. Theater of the absurd.
I’ll bet he couldn’t wait to fold like a cheap suit! Whiny-boy.
The GOP is useless since it has so few conservatives. Most of this party is made up of liberals who we call RINOs. America is finished since their is no real opposition to the communists takeover. Bonehead has no guts and that is expected since the party is finished.
The Great American Spendathon continues. And yes, a crash is coming.
Why do you say it no longer matters? Has Boehner broken the Hastert Rule yet?
If he is going to do it, then the republican caucus can hold a meeting before the vote comes to the floor, and they can vote in a new Speaker. I think Boehner knows this.
So this just may be Chicago Sun Times joining with all the other bought and paid for liberal media engaging in wishful thinking.
He will break it.
There should be a walk out of conservatives and a call for a vote of no confidence (I don’t know if they can do that in the House, if it is a parliamentary thing or what.)
I would rather see Pelosi as Speaker. At least we would know where we stand.
[Not really. I am using an extreme point to make my argument.]
Banking is a funny thing when it comes to the nation’s debt. When a pause happens to consider getting the fiscal house in order, there is the downgrade threat, but keep spending like drunken sailors (no offense to drunken sailors) and everything is ok. I just don’t understand it.
I'm not saying we give up. We still vote on principle. We still campaign for "right".... in hopes of delaying what we know is the inevitable.
As I’ve said many times before, the Hastert rule was designed to silence conservatives. When Hastert was speaker, the majority of the majority were still old-guard, establishment repulicans. So they were able to say “sorry little Jimmy Conservative, your proposal doesn’t have majority support so we’re not going to take that up”
But in 2006, some thirty republicans either retired or were defeated, and another thirty in 2008. Then these were replaced with conservatives in 2010.
So the majority of the majority is now conservative, so naturally the Hastert rule has been out the window for the goal is always to thwart conservatives and conservatism.
I had a little bit of money in a Detroit Municipal Bond. It was insured. Like 5k worth. Broker calls a few months back and says "you need to get out of this". I said... "its insured". He says "yeah... well the company that has it insured has a lower credit rating than the city of Detroit".
How does that happen? We have to understand the game, the reality, where this country is going... and formulate a plant to be successful in the new paradigm.
Of course he will. Hastert Rule is forever dead. As is the GOP.
You're not the only one, sweetheart. I'm incredibly mad. The times of inaction have grown long in the tooth. It's time for men of action to stand up and do something. This is tyranny on a scale America's never seen on her own shores.
Our House of Representatives, the truest form of representation in our government, is about to capitulate to the rule of a minority of tyrants over a faux issue of America's creditworthiness. This is an issue of lies and calculated fakery to make an issue seem worse than it really is.
What I'd like to see is a reasoned response from the Tea Party Republicans on the national media with a solid plan of action that is commonsense; as Dave Ramsey says (paraphrasing), "Advice your grandmother would give you."
Explain that the "debt limit" is exactly that, it's a limit. It means the government can't borrow any more money. It means we have to live within our means. It means the credit cards are shut off, and we're denied funds from our own internal bank. I REALLY do NOT see a problem with this.
The United States' GDP is sufficient to pay our debts and keep the government running on a "required services" basis.
People going to lose their cushy government jobs? You betcha!
Entitlements going to be shut off or pared back? Oh yeah!
Market going to tank? Like a lead balloon! BUT, the nice this about this is that we'll finally understand where the REAL value of our market sits. The government is freaking out about the debt limit because it means they can't artificially inflate the markets. It means that markets are going to collapse like a balloon without lips attached to the spigot. Personally, I see that as a good thing, and I have a 401(k) that will be slammed.
This sets up the Republicans, more specifically conservatives, to actually sit down with the American people, their constituents, and force everyone to have an open, honest discussion about our country and her finances. It's going to be a discussion like a mother and father have with their preadolescent child to tell them that the family pet was hit by a car and is not going to survive. There will be crying as we watch it slip away. It will be difficult, but in the end, ya know what? There's a framework in place, a set of ideas ensconced in our Constitution that could mean a resurgence of America as more than just a political entity but a powerhouse.
This conversation needs to happen, and I applaud the Tea Party caucus for holding a knife to the throat of the Marxists in Washington. It's time for the REAL adults to talk. Grandma's on life support, and she won't survive without it. There's no sense in keeping her alive forever, there's no quality of life that way. Let her slip away, and build our lives together in the image our Founders left us.
Here's the thing. If everything that happens is predictable, the feds can pretty much control the economy enough to avoid a collapse and chaos. With the housing market, the unintended event was a lot of people decided it wasn't worth paying a mortgage and a lot of would-be buyers decided it was a dumb investment for them.
Something that can't be absorbed and planned for will cause the collapse. If the feds keep maniupulating the US to poverty, it might be that if Obamacare takes hold it'll drain local economies because there will be so little expendable income left. Or it might be something like radiation from Japan in the ocean, or who knows what.
The best way for freepers to prepare now is to be real aware of what's going on. Most freepers are ready if we see it coming ahead of most of the population.
” if Obamacare takes hold it’ll drain local economies because there will be so little expendable income left.”
This is a very real possibility...imho
Voting 3rd party is STUPID beyond belief in the face of a Bolshevik administration.
Would Hastert have broken the Hastert Rule today? Probably.
Buyers/Investors who didn't think buying property after the housing market crashed know nothing about investing. Just my humble opinion.
When it all comes crashing down, those who caused it must not be allowed to flee the country.
Didn’t he already break it once?
How can you vote 3rd party when the two current parties are one in the same?
There is no opposition party. It would be nice if we had one, but the Republican party ain’t it.
I live in KY, I have voted for that sleaze bag McConnell since 1984. No more. Sure a democrat might win that seat and the difference would be???????????????????????????????
When I inform people (liberals) that failure to raise the debt ceiling will NOT cause the US to default, they just say “you obviously don’t understand gov’t economics”. To which I reply “if by gov’t economics, you mean that gov’t needs to borrow more money in order to make the minimum required payments on our existing debts, you’re right, I don’t understand that.” To which they triumphantly laugh and smile thinking that they’ve actually won that argument.
Yes it will drain everything, but who’s name is on it: OBAMA. Who pushed this thru and made us choke it down: OBAMA. The only name of any of this is: OBAMA....I hope people that voted for him are soooo proud, they should be out in the streets yelling and screaming how great he is!!! (Gag, Gag, Gag) Just remember: His name is on this joke of a government!
Well of course Tammy Faye will break the Hastert rule. Otherwise he won’t be able to capitulate to the Dems. He just wants to take his whoopin and head for happy hour.